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Get the nicest phev you can and enjoy the best of both worlds until the tech catches up.

Tbh a separate thread for GVRD infrastructure/planning/ traffic etc wouldn't be unwelcome.
they'll probably say it's too close to politics and nuh uh

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I got drunk every day for years in a row. I recommend it.
I have heart issues, and went on Lipitor. Bloody stuff triggered tremors in me, and the easiest way to deal with it was alcohol, which works great. Basically did that for the past 13 years, until this year I got a DUI which screwed up that plan. Now I am using drugs to deal with it instead, no where near as effective or as enjoyable.

This getting old has its challenges.

But I can't take chances, the penalty for a 2nd DUI is apparently a 1 yr suspension of licence, and 30 days in jail. The idea of that is pretty bloody scary.

Went to this tourney 6 years ago or so. We only went to one game, the last one, and they had double booked the arena, so we were seated in the annex, and had shitty seats where we couldn't see the whole ice. Left after one period ... won't bother trying to go again. Will watch it on the computer instead.
 
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I have heart issues, and went on Lipitor. Bloody stuff triggered tremors in me, and the easiest way to deal with it was alcohol, which works great. Basically did that for the past 13 years, until this year I got a DUI which screwed up that plan. Now I am using drugs to deal with it instead, no where near as effective or as enjoyable.

This getting old has its challenges.

But I can't take chances, the penalty for a 2nd DUI is apparently a 1 yr suspension of licence, and 30 days in jail. The idea of that is pretty bloody scary.

Went to this tourney 6 years ago or so. We only went to one game, the last one, and they had double booked the arena, so we were seated in the annex, and had shitty seats where we couldn't see the whole ice. Left after one period ... won't bother trying to go again. Will watch it on the computer instead.
Oh yeah, "I might not get to drive for a year" is definitely the scary potential outcome of driving impaired. Geez.
 

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I go by the Japanese drinking and driving rules which is don’t do it all. There if you drink and drive you permanently lose your license and 3-5 years in prison. That’s just getting caught regardless of if anything happens. So just don’t do it.
 

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I go by the Japanese drinking and driving rules which is don’t do it all. There if you drink and drive you permanently lose your license and 3-5 years in prison. That’s just getting caught regardless of if anything happens. So just don’t do it.

I can't believe there hasn't been a mandate or hue/cry for ignition interlocks to be an included component to vehicle operation. Interestingly enough, if you've ever texted+driven, that's even worse statistically speaking than drinking. Or so I read somewhere. My suggestion is similar: don't.

Also, TIL Don Wittman was still calling games when I started watching. What an iconic voice.
 

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LSD 5?

...I am just realizing the LSD thing. Was that intentional? :laugh:
responding from another thread:


Haha yes. Well kinda.

Me and some friends used to frequently do LSD. It started off when we went on these scenic road trips around BC and go camping or hiking.

Back then we used to think lemons/limes/grapefruits enhanced the psychoactive effects of lsd/shrooms because of citric acid so we would drink a ton of lemon juice fused with other citric drinks and used to call it “the sauce”. One of us then created the term getting “lemonsauced” and found out by accident it included “LSD”. name stuck around and has become an inside joke we share to the people close to us.

we were high key such dorks.
 
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Life throws you a curveball sometimes, something you are not prepared for.
Just found out my aunt had stage 3 breast cancer, she's now in remission.

That's a punch in the stomach if there ever was one, life sometimes I swear..
 

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I have heart issues, and went on Lipitor. Bloody stuff triggered tremors in me, and the easiest way to deal with it was alcohol, which works great. Basically did that for the past 13 years, until this year I got a DUI which screwed up that plan. Now I am using drugs to deal with it instead, no where near as effective or as enjoyable.

This getting old has its challenges.

But I can't take chances, the penalty for a 2nd DUI is apparently a 1 yr suspension of licence, and 30 days in jail. The idea of that is pretty bloody scary.

Went to this tourney 6 years ago or so. We only went to one game, the last one, and they had double booked the arena, so we were seated in the annex, and had shitty seats where we couldn't see the whole ice. Left after one period ... won't bother trying to go again. Will watch it on the computer instead.
If by heart issues you mean anything requiring an angiogram, alcohol is absolutely the worst thing you can put in your body apart from shitty food and tobacco smoke.
 

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If by heart issues you mean anything requiring an angiogram, alcohol is absolutely the worst thing you can put in your body apart from shitty food and tobacco smoke.
Just wondering what else there is to put in your body? Clearly good food isn't a problem. And I have 4 separate heart issues, aside from having a heart episode with elevated troponin levels that required my 2nd angiogram. And I have 3 heart doctors, a heart surgeon along with my regular doctor, and not one of them has mentioned that alcohol is a specific worry for heart patients.

And I am reasonably healthy for my age. Golf 2 - 3, hockey twice and pickleball 3 times a week.
 

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7th day of Covid folks and it's still kicking my ass.

I say this as a pretty fit and healthy 40 year old guy. So please be careful out there.
1st time was absolute hell for me, but after that I caught it again for 2 times and it was nothing more than a mild fever for me.

Guess it really differs from every person.

You should have recovered by now but still,
stay healthy.
 

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1st time was absolute hell for me, but after that I caught it again for 2 times and it was nothing more than a mild fever for me.

Guess it really differs from every person.

You should have recovered by now but still,
stay healthy.

I have asthma and since my first bout with covid my asthma went from a 2 to 7. I'm a healthy 38 year old with a chronic cough now haha. Long covid is definitely a thing and physiologically I believe it changed something in me long term.

My first experience with it I fevered for 4-5 days - one night I fevered so hard the sheets, my underwear AND the duvet were soaking wet. I'm not talking a damp spot on the sheets, I'm talking about someone dumped 3 pales of water on my side of the bed. Had to wake the wife up, do the laundry and change the sheets all while shivering cold in the middle of the night. We saw it end Brandon Sutter's career - although he was nearing the end.

Anyways all of this to say it definitely effects each individual differently.
 
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Just wondering what else there is to put in your body? Clearly good food isn't a problem. And I have 4 separate heart issues, aside from having a heart episode with elevated troponin levels that required my 2nd angiogram. And I have 3 heart doctors, a heart surgeon along with my regular doctor, and not one of them has mentioned that alcohol is a specific worry for heart patients.

And I am reasonably healthy for my age. Golf 2 - 3, hockey twice and pickleball 3 times a week.
There's a lot to get into here, but I can summarize a few key things:

1. If you've had two angiograms and two episodes where your troponin levels were elevated (they were almost certainly elevated in whatever event precipitated the 1st angiogram) you have entered a phase of your life where your heart will continue to weaken and probably periodically suffer hypoxic injury. It's almost certainly what will eventually kill you (even if it ends up being technically indirect like acute kidney injury from fluid overload due to congestive heart failure). All you can do at this point is to keep your heart working as well as it can, which basically means keeping your coronary arteries as clear and pliable as possible. Anyone in your position should basically eat a Mediterranean/Japanese diet and little to no saturated fat and tons of fibre. I get that this isn't always realistic and that we all have habits both good and bad, so ...

2. ... at the very least try to stop drinking booze to excess. It increases blood pressure and tends to harden/inflame arteries. The hypertension will also raise your risk of stroke, which is already elevated in anyone with heart disease as any arrhythmia or valvular dysfunction tends to turn your heart into a clot-making machine.
And I have 3 heart doctors, a heart surgeon along with my regular doctor
Better than no doctors and a bad heart, but interventional cardiologists do 10 surgeries a day. They aren't really there to tell you what to do, they don't have the spare time and they've seen so many people fail to change their habits then die after 2-3 stent implantations and a coronary artery bypass graft that they just try to master the technical aspects of their job.

Anyway, I hope you're healthy long into the future. It's a scary position to be in sometimes but you have a fair bit of power to change your body and become more resilient. Diet is very important, including alcohol intake. Exercise is huge too, so you're doing the right thing there.
 
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I have heart issues, and went on Lipitor. Bloody stuff triggered tremors in me, and the easiest way to deal with it was alcohol, which works great. Basically did that for the past 13 years, until this year I got a DUI which screwed up that plan. Now I am using drugs to deal with it instead, no where near as effective or as enjoyable.

This getting old has its challenges.

But I can't take chances, the penalty for a 2nd DUI is apparently a 1 yr suspension of licence, and 30 days in jail. The idea of that is pretty bloody scary.

Went to this tourney 6 years ago or so. We only went to one game, the last one, and they had double booked the arena, so we were seated in the annex, and had shitty seats where we couldn't see the whole ice. Left after one period ... won't bother trying to go again. Will watch it on the computer instead.

Not to encourage drinking and driving but did you get a DUI or IRP? Nowadays it's pretty much all IRP in BC.
 

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1st time was absolute hell for me, but after that I caught it again for 2 times and it was nothing more than a mild fever for me.

Guess it really differs from every person.

You should have recovered by now but still,
stay healthy.
I'm good now but appreciate the wellwishes.
 
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There's a lot to get into here, but I can summarize a few key things:

1. If you've had two angiograms and two episodes where your troponin levels were elevated (they were almost certainly elevated in whatever event precipitated the 1st angiogram) you have entered a phase of your life where your heart will continue to weaken and probably periodically suffer hypoxic injury. It's almost certainly what will eventually kill you (even if it ends up being technically indirect like acute kidney injury from fluid overload due to congestive heart failure). All you can do at this point is to keep your heart working as well as it can, which basically means keeping your coronary arteries as clear and pliable as possible. Anyone in your position should basically eat a Mediterranean/Japanese diet and little to no saturated fat and tons of fibre. I get that this isn't always realistic and that we all have habits both good and bad, so ...

2. ... at the very least try to stop drinking booze to excess. It increases blood pressure and tends to harden/inflame arteries. The hypertension will also raise your risk of stroke, which is already elevated in anyone with heart disease as any arrhythmia or valvular dysfunction tends to turn your heart into a clot-making machine.

Better than no doctors and a bad heart, but interventional cardiologists do 10 surgeries a day. They aren't really there to tell you what to do, they don't have the spare time and they've seen so many people fail to change their habits then die after 2-3 stent implantations and a coronary artery bypass graft that they just try to master the technical aspects of their job.

Anyway, I hope you're healthy long into the future. It's a scary position to be in sometimes but you have a fair bit of power to change your body and become more resilient. Diet is very important, including alcohol intake. Exercise is huge too, so you're doing the right thing there.
I have no stents. I have an aneurysm on my ascending aorta. I have a bundle branch blockage. I have a heart murmur. My blood pressure is fine. They gave me a radioactive dye test because they thought there was a problem with my ejection fraction, but the specialist said the tests were inconclusive, and they have determined that the ejection fraction issue is probably not an concern, but the result of the bundle branch blockage. I mostly eat using the Keto rules. (a friend of mine has written a book called the Bio Diet. He convinced me to go on it in my hot tub. Anyhow I lost 25 lbs in a bout 30 days, but that was 11 or so years ago, and I have put most of it back on). Anyhow I am aware that I have issues, but none of the specialists I have seen seem overly worried. My heart surgeon went as far as to say that the aneurysm is not as large as they first thought and he doesn't want to talk to me for 5 years.
 

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I have no stents. I have an aneurysm on my ascending aorta. I have a bundle branch blockage. I have a heart murmur. My blood pressure is fine. They gave me a radioactive dye test because they thought there was a problem with my ejection fraction, but the specialist said the tests were inconclusive, and they have determined that the ejection fraction issue is probably not an concern, but the result of the bundle branch blockage. I mostly eat using the Keto rules. (a friend of mine has written a book called the Bio Diet. He convinced me to go on it in my hot tub. Anyhow I lost 25 lbs in a bout 30 days, but that was 11 or so years ago, and I have put most of it back on). Anyhow I am aware that I have issues, but none of the specialists I have seen seem overly worried. My heart surgeon went as far as to say that the aneurysm is not as large as they first thought and he doesn't want to talk to me for 5 years.
Just FYI, unless that bundle block is caused by a cardiac birth defect it is almost always the result of hypoxic injury to the heart somewhere along the line. With that and a troponin-elevated infarct in your history, everything I said above applies. In general, a cardiologist isn't going to straight up tell you how to live your life because they know from long experience it has little effect. The people that are scared straight will find the information themselves. If they were going to be overly worried every time it might be called for they wouldn't do much else because it's all they deal with. Rather than gaining/losing weight rapidly and eating keto (which tends to be very high in saturated fats that are going to exacerbate coronary artery disease) your focus should probably be on a balanced diet with very little meat and a shitload of fibre and plant matter. That seems to be what works to extend the lives of people with coronary conditions.
 

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If by heart issues you mean anything requiring an angiogram, alcohol is absolutely the worst thing you can put in your body apart from shitty food and tobacco smoke.

The way I look at it is this:

There is faaaaaar too many things they say that is carcinogenic. Microplastics, microwaves, living close to a refinery, eating fast food, the sun, f***ing stress.

There is a more than 50% chance any one of us will go out that way. Might as well send it, rather than living in fear of pretty much everything around us because it’s damn near all carcinogenic.

But don’t take away your quality of life. Some know my story, I took a blood test and my liver enzymes are still down bad.
 

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