The Oilers have no doubt the best forward group in the league

[ChaoticOrange]

Not great on D or in goal again so i doubt it. Florida is still better

We'll see. I'm not convinced that they didn't get worse and they apparently are shopping Ekblad

imagine making a comment like this when you're stuck with a rotten core and not having won for over 80 years

you last won before color pictures were invented ffs, please behave

Edmonton won more playoff rounds last season than the Leafs have won in the last 20 years combined (2 series wins in 20 years is... something)

 

[vcanuck]

I give mini Skinner 20 games before he's healthy scratched for being lazy, the oil will have two Skinners to let them down now.

Arvidsson will put himself on the LTIR once he sees the groots we have on D. He plays 50 games max next season.

Foegle was literally one of your best forecheckers last year and he's replaced by this smurf?? gl with that.

all those lazy one dimensional forwards and you have Skinnneerrrr to save the day in net??

this is going to be a hilarious thread to bump.

it's unfortunate the much superior Canucks team/franchise only gets to play edm 3 times next season. so many easy points to grab.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

And just like that instead of fixing the D and the G, Edmonton triple down on offense to ensure every games finish in double digits goal count.

God this team is marbeled of stubborn glory

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Move the needle where exactly? The Oilers already have had the no.1 offense in the league the last several years. It's not even close.

Vancouver wasn't even in the top 10 for league scoring after their first 11 games and then was mediocre offensively in the playoffs.

That’s already been debunked. They didn’t have the best offense last season as it was fourth. If you want to be accurate instead of misleading you could say the number one offense the last several years excluding last year or add that they were the second best since the new coach hire. But to simply repeat an incorrect fact isn’t helping your argument. And adding ‘and it’s not even close’ just compounds the false statement.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I give mini Skinner 20 games before he's healthy scratched for being lazy, the oil will have two Skinners to let them down now.

Arvidsson will put himself on the LTIR once he sees the groots we have on D. He plays 50 games max next season.

Foegle was literally one of your best forecheckers last year and he's replaced by this smurf?? gl with that.

all those lazy one dimensional forwards and you have Skinnneerrrr to save the day in net??

this is going to be a hilarious thread to bump.

it's unfortunate the much superior Canucks team/franchise only gets to play edm 3 times next season. so many easy points to grab.

to be quite honest this is an obvious troll but it's also funny because the Canucks had near-perfect health all regular season and all their forwards hit career highs in S% so the regression is going to hit so hard, but they've also managed to make their team worse than the version we saw in the playoffs.

Better make sure to bulk order bubble wrap for Demko, he's in for a workout this year with a bottom four of Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais. But hey, at least youre paying Hronek triple what he's worth.

 

[Soundwave]

And just like that instead of fixing the D and the G, Edmonton triple down on offense to ensure every games finish in double digits goal count.

God this team is marbeled of stubborn glory

Maybe wake up and smell the 2024. The Oilers are a top defensive team in the league, that's not an opinion either.

Which team held Florida to their lowest goal scoring total in any of the 4 rounds this year? It was the Oilers, not the Rangers or anyone else. Vancouver, Dallas, and LA all saw their offense grind to a halt too in each of the previous 3 rounds the longer those series went along.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That’s already been debunked. They didn’t have the best offense last season it was fourth. If you want to be accurate instead of misleading you could say the number one offense the last several years excluding last year or add that they were the second best since the new coach hire. But to simply repeat an incorrect fact isn’t helping your argument.

Depends how you define "offense". In terms of just goals, yes, they were fourth. in terms of chance generation, they were first.

Part of the reason there was a gap between the two numbers (goals and expected) is guys like Foegele, who could generate chances but not finish them. Ever. Skinner and Arvidsson will help that a lot.

 

[Soundwave]

to be quite honest this is an obvious troll but it's also funny because the Canucks had near-perfect health all regular season and all their forwards hit career highs in S% so the regression is going to hit so hard, but they've also managed to make their team worse than the version we saw in the playoffs.

Better make sure to bulk order bubble wrap for Demko, he's in for a workout this year with a bottom four of Soucy-Myers Forbort-Desharnais. But hey, at least youre paying Hronek triple what he's worth.

They should have kept Zadorov but I don't think he wanted to stay there.

That’s already been debunked. They didn’t have the best offense last season as it was fourth. If you want to be accurate instead of misleading you could say the number one offense the last several years excluding last year or add that they were the second best since the new coach hire. But to simply repeat an incorrect fact isn’t helping your argument. And adding ‘and it’s not even close’ just compounds the false statement.

Under Knoblaugh they were 2nd, one goal behind Colorado. True or false?

Yes they had a terrible first 11 games or so under Woodcroft, everyone knows that, it's the reason he got himself fired.

In the broader picture they have been the no.1 scoring team in the league for several years now. That is not an opinion, that's a fact.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

They should have kept Zadorov but I don't think he wanted to stay there.

he quite clearly used them to get more money. Must sting, to see our UFA's take less to stay while theirs used them as a springboard for more cash.

 

[Soundwave]

he quite clearly used them to get more money. Must sting, to see our UFA's take less to stay while theirs used them as a springboard for more cash.

Seemed like Lindholm and Zadorov couldn't wait to get out of there. Tanev also spurned going back there to sign in Toronto instead.

 

[Coffey]

I love when uneducated people think the Oilers defense is still made up of Chorney, Strudwick, Peckham and Arsene.

 

[Heldig]

he quite clearly used them to get more money. Must sting, to see our UFA's take less to stay while theirs used them as a springboard for more cash.

If the oilers did not have McDrai they too would struggle to attract / retain free agents. Everything is about them. When they are gone it will sting for Oiler fans too.

 

[vcanuck]

to be quite honest this is an obvious troll but it's also funny because the Canucks had near-perfect health all regular season and all their forwards hit career highs in S% so the regression is going to hit so hard, but they've also managed to make their team worse than the version we saw in the playoffs.

Better make sure to bulk order bubble wrap for Demko, he's in for a workout this year.

explain how adding 48 goals, some more size and overall forward depth 'worst' than the team you guys barely beat in the playoffs?

you guys have been predicting our regression since that 8-1 humiliation. the Canucks just went on to win the division and had led the league for significant period of time at one point... something a Mcdavid/Dry led oiler team has never done.

but sure, keep on talking about high sh % while ignoring the ones on your team. Hymen scored 54 goals and only 4 of them are from his own individual effort. guy is there to literally clean up McPPs missed attempts.

your 4th best forward is Evander Kane.. equivalent to Nils Hoglander but Nils doesn't get PP minutes with Mc/Dry.

Don't worry about Demko, he played 51 games this season before that freak injury. He played more games than the oompa loompa you just signed.

 

[Soundwave]

explain how adding 48 goals, some more size and overall forward depth 'worst' than the team you guys barely beat in the playoffs?

you guys have been predicting our regression since that 8-1 humiliation. the Canucks just went on to win the division and had led the league for significant period of time at one point... something a Mcdavid/Dry led oiler team has never done.

but sure, keep on talking about high sh % while ignoring the ones on your team. Hymen scored 54 goals and only 4 of them are from his own individual effort. guy is there to literally clean up McPPs missed attempts.

your 4th best forward is Evander Kane.. equivalent to Nils Hoglander but Nils doesn't get PP minutes with Mc/Dry.

Don't worry about Demko, he played 51 games this season before that freak injury. He played more games than the oompa loompa you just signed.

lol you guys did regress.

Offense fell out of the top 10 after game 12 of the season, in the playoffs the Canucks offense went to crap entirely.

One of the funner things about the last few years has been Flames (2022) and Canucks (2024) whooping it up about their dream seasons only to have their "everything is going our way!" season ended by the Oilers.

What happened to all that "we're gonna sign Jake Guentzel!" hype, lol, don't think he was interested at all.

 

[vcanuck]

the Canucks according to edmn fan logic have downgraded.

Sherwood > Lafferty
Heinen > Mikheyev
DeBrusk > Lindholm (DeBrusk is the better finisher and younger)
Forbort = Cole. both are slow af but at least the other one doesn't score on his own team.
Zadorov > Desharnais

but Zadorov is supposedly trash according to oil fans so it's not much of a downgrade.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

They should have kept Zadorov but I don't think he wanted to stay there.



Under Knoblaugh they were 2nd, one goal behind Colorado. True or false?

Yes they had a terrible first 11 games or so under Woodcroft, everyone knows that, it's the reason he got himself fired.

In the broader picture they have been the no.1 scoring team in the league for several years now. That is not an opinion, that's a fact.

Incorrect.
Answer true or false. Were they the fourth highest scoring last year or not?
A one word answer.
I will agree that they were second with the new coach last year. But to suggest they were the best and it’s not even close is factually incorrect. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

 

[Soundwave]

the Canucks according to edmn fan logic have downgraded.

Sherwood > Lafferty
Heinen > Mikheyev
DeBrusk > Lindholm (DeBrusk is the better finisher and younger)
Forbort = Cole. both are slow af but at least the other one doesn't score on his own team.
Zadorov > Desharnais

but Zadorov is supposedly trash according to oil fans so it's not much of a downgrade.

I don't think everyone would agree with that list, I'd rather have Lafferty than Sherwood and Lindholm over DeBrusk, Lindholm can play both center and wing which makes him more valuable as evidence by the fact that he got paid a lot more money.

The Canucks offense as the season went along was falling down to Earth hard and was a dud in the playoffs.

 

[vcanuck]

lol you guys did regress.

Offense fell out of the top 10 after game 12 of the season, in the playoffs the Canucks offense went to crap entirely.

One of the funner things about the last few years has been Flames (2022) and Canucks (2024) whooping it up about their dream seasons only to have their "everything is going our way!" season ended by the Oilers.

What happened to all that "we're gonna sign Jake Guentzel!" hype, lol, don't think he was interested at all.

he wanted to be traded to Vancouver at the TD.

did you miss the part where Tampa traded for his right and overpaid to sign him?

we're not edmonton, we can get whoever we want, like we did with Alberta boy DeBrusk whom the oil were very interested in.

 

[Soundwave]

Incorrect.
Answer true or false. Were they the fourth highest scoring last year or not?
A one word answer.
I will agree that they were second with the new coach last year. But to suggest they were the best and it’s not even close is factually incorrect. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

They were second by a goal last year under their current coach.

They are the best over a larger sample size, the last 2-3 years.

he wanted to be traded to Vancouver at the TD.

did you miss the part where Tampa traded for his right and overpaid to sign him?

we're not edmonton, we can get whoever we want, like we did with Alberta boy DeBrusk whom the oil were very interested in.

Whoever you want, except any of the really juicy players that were available I guess. If he really wanted to be in Vancouver, he'd be there, no one held a gun to his head, I'd rather play and live in Tampa too.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

They were second by a goal last year under the current coach.

They are the best over a larger sample size, the last 2-3 years.

OK. On that i can agree.

 

[vcanuck]

I don't think everyone would agree with that list, I'd rather have Lafferty than Sherwood and Lindholm over DeBrusk, Lindholm can play both center and wing which makes him more valuable as evidence by the fact that he got paid a lot more money.

The Canucks offense as the season went along was falling down to Earth hard and was a dud in the playoffs.

Of course you would... clearly you know more about the Canucks than their actual fans.

Lafferty was a streaky guy who disappeared for long stretches. he was not physical enough and was healthy scratched multiple times in the regular season. Trust me when I say this, we don't miss him one bit.

Lindholm never clicked with any forward lines, the only reason we wanted him back was for center depth..

DeBrusk is the better fit because Pettersson needs someone to get on the forecheck and finish off his plays.

 

[Soundwave]

OK. On that i can agree.

The funny thing is Colorado is actually the one that was shit at defending recently. The Oilers scored about as many goals but had a far better GA last year.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

explain how adding 48 goals, some more size and overall forward depth 'worst' than the team you guys barely beat in the playoffs?

you guys have been predicting our regression since that 8-1 humiliation. the Canucks just went on to win the division and had led the league for significant period of time at one point... something a Mcdavid/Dry led oiler team has never done.

but sure, keep on talking about high sh % while ignoring the ones on your team. Hymen scored 54 goals and only 4 of them are from his own individual effort. guy is there to literally clean up McPPs missed attempts.

your 4th best forward is Evander Kane.. equivalent to Nils Hoglander but Nils doesn't get PP minutes with Mc/Dry.

Don't worry about Demko, he played 51 games this season before that freak injury. He played more games than the oompa loompa you just signed.

And yet you did regress. Nashville had a better record than Vancouver after October. So did Edmonton, Dallas, Colorado, Winnipeg . The division win is a mirage and nothing more - and I'll take a Campbell Bowl over a division win any day of the week.

You lost Lindholm, Zadorov, Cole, and Mikheyev and replaced them with DeBrusk, Desharnais, Derek Forbort, and the playoff ghost that is Danton Heinen. Downgrades abound.

Kane is about our 8th best forward now.

 

[vcanuck]

They were second by a goal last year under their current coach.

They are the best over a larger sample size, the last 2-3 years.



Whoever you want, except any of the really juicy players that were available I guess. If he really wanted to be in Vancouver, he'd be there, no one held a gun to his head, I'd rather play and live in Tampa too.

we were literally only interested in Guentzel and Tanev.... two guys whose rights were traded for and overpaid to keep.

DeBrusk was always the target had we missed on Guentzel and they got him with multiple teams after him including two from his home province.

 

[Soundwave]

Of course you would... clearly you know more about the Canucks than their actual fans.

Lafferty was a streaky guy who disappeared for long stretches. he was not physical enough and was healthy scratched multiple times in the regular season. Trust me when I say this, we don't miss him one bit.

Lindholm never clicked with any forward lines, the only reason we wanted him back was for center depth..

DeBrusk is the better fit because Pettersson needs someone to get on the forecheck and finish off his plays.

I mean what difference does it make, they're not one of the elite offensive teams in the league either way.

They were 12th in the league for goal scoring after their hot first 12 games or so, their goal scoring actually went down from that point on to lower than the season before.

They're not in that discussion with teams like Edmonton, Colorado, Toronto, Dallas, etc. to begin with. Those are the top offensive teams, Vancouver is not in that category.

They overachieved offensively to start the season and then reverted back to a more normalized scoring rate for most of the rest of the season and then were just bad offensively in the playoffs.