CantHaveTkachev
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not good....hence why the Nucks took another L to the Oil in the playoffsyes'
did Seabass show up in the finals?
the little guy couldnt handle the playoff grind
The Oilers have no doubt the best forward group in the league
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the little guy couldnt handle the playoff grind
vcanuck
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so what? any hockey player in todays nhl can.
the question is can they do it when there's a 6'7 - 6'8 - 6'4 - 6'5 defencemen baring down on them on a Vezina calibre goalie.
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I mean it's well documented that he missed 6 games after the Jets game early in the season with a "core" injury and then required consultation after the playoffs to see if he'd need surgery for an "abdominal issue". Usually guys who score (prorated for shortened seasons) 65, 44, 48, 44, 41, 41 the previous 6 years and then drop to 32 the following year have a reason. It was plainly obvious to anyone watching him that he mostly refused to shoot the puck this year because of it.ohhhhh puhleeesssss you're actually going to believe that?
so that's the excuse now huh? McLotto played the entire szn and the playoffs with an injury but he fought throught it because he's 'warrior'
Oilers already arguably had the best forward group in the NHL anyway.
They outscored Florida even in the Finals and that's with Draisaitl being obviously injured with 0 goals and Kane not even able to play as the series went on.
They scored the most goals of any team in the playoffs and had a whopping +21 goal differntial in the post season which was more than the next three teams (Florida, NYR, and Dallas) combined.
Adding two more guys who can score and retaining Henrique is just a case of the rich getting richer.
Colorado has never been the same since losing Landeskog, Kadri, etc. Vegas lost Marchessault, Stephenson, etc.
They outscored Florida even in the Finals and that's with Draisaitl being obviously injured with 0 goals and Kane not even able to play as the series went on.
They scored the most goals of any team in the playoffs and had a whopping +21 goal differntial in the post season which was more than the next three teams (Florida, NYR, and Dallas) combined.
Adding two more guys who can score and retaining Henrique is just a case of the rich getting richer.
Colorado has never been the same since losing Landeskog, Kadri, etc. Vegas lost Marchessault, Stephenson, etc.
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vcanuck
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that little guy can skate better than the dwarves you guys signed so if he "couldnt handle the playoff grind" then I have bad news for you
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That's why they gave him the Vezina bruh.that little guy can skate better than the dwarves you guys signed so if he "couldnt handle the playoff grind" then I have bad news for you
Don't you mean Norris calibre goalie?so what? any hockey player in todays nhl can.
the question is can they do it when there's a 6'7 - 6'8 - 6'4 - 6'5 defencemen baring down on them on a Vezina calibre goalie.
CantHaveTkachev
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no one is scared of the plugs the Canucks signedthat little guy can skate better than the dwarves you guys signed so if he "couldnt handle the playoff grind" then I have bad news for you
Oilers handled Zadorov just fine last year when they won the series
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DeBrusk is going to be the oilers new dad.no one is scared of the plugs the Canucks signed
Oilers handled Zadorov just fine last year when they won the series
he's going to turn edm the new Toronto
he's that good.
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Zadorov also skates significantly better than Forbort or Vinny, and he's way way way more punishing physically than Vinny. I wouldn't have signed him at 5M either, but both of these guys are massive downgrades on him.no one is scared of the plugs the Canucks signed
Oilers handled Zadorov just fine last year when they won the series
Canucks honestly weren't any kind of offensive juggernaut. After a hot start, from Nov. 11 onwards they weren't even top 10 in the league for goal scoring.
In the playoffs the Canucks averaged 2.53 goals per game, which is kind of mediocre too and Lindholm was one of their better playoff performers. They struggled to score goals for pretty length stretches in both of their playoff rounds.
Oilers were no.1 in the playoffs for goals for (per game) and no.2 for best goals against (per game).
In the playoffs the Canucks averaged 2.53 goals per game, which is kind of mediocre too and Lindholm was one of their better playoff performers. They struggled to score goals for pretty length stretches in both of their playoff rounds.
Oilers were no.1 in the playoffs for goals for (per game) and no.2 for best goals against (per game).
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I wonder if Hughes can finally steal the job from Demko this year. If he does he should be way more effective than he was in the playoffs last year.
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Just wait until McDavid and Drai go back to their normal 40-50 goal scoring. Hyman will probably settle back into 35-40 goals, and Nuge will probably be his usual self around 20. If Skinner and Arvidsson can come in and score 50-60 combined, and if the line of Janmark-Henrique-Brown can bounce back to 35-40 goals the Oilers could reasonably score close to 340-350 this year. They scored 325 a year ago with a much less talented forward group.
It's really Edmonton, Florida, Colorado, Dallas, Toronto as the cream of the crop for goal scoring squads in the NHL that was the case well before July 1.
Vancouver, sorry to say it is not in that group. They had a hot first 10 games or so but then cooled off significantly, from Nov 11 onwards they scored 220 goals in the final 69 games, good for only 12th best in the league, just 3 goals more than the Calgary Flames did in the same number of games (217 goals).
So basically for the last 69 games of the year they scored at about the same rate as the offensive juggernaut that is the Calgary Flames.
In the playoffs their offense was mediocre.
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And if you took Petey and Hughes off the Canucks playoff lineup no one would even notice.
Maybe some Canucks fans would and you guys could get a chant going: WHERE’D PETEY GO, WHERE’D PETEY GO, WHERE’D PETEY GO, WHERE’D PETEY GO.
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Yeah I really don't understand the argument for Vancouver. When you match up rosters the Oilers have at least 9 if not 10 forwards that are better than their counterparts on Vancouver.
Their offense actually for the last 69-70 games of the season was actually below the season before where they missed the playoffs in goals per game.
Basically they had a hot blip at the start of the season and then reverted back to the mean (slightly below actually) and followed that up with a poor showing offensively in the playoffs.
I'm not really even giving an opinion, was just looking at the numbers, was kind of surprised actually.
I'm also surprised the Flames basically scored at the same rate as the Canucks for the last 69-70 games of the year ... wasn't expecting to see that.
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McFlyingV
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Oilers forwards 3-12 are better than Canucks forwards 3-12. Sorry to break it to you. And we already know how big of an advantage they have in the 1-2 spot.if you take out one of mcdavid/drai out of that lineup it looks like an AHL all star lineup..
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you don't even believe that.
Hyman is a product of Mcdrai, he's a 2nd liner with any other team. If you actually watch most of his goals last season, very few are from his own individual effort.
look at his point production before he won the lottery of playing with McPP.
take out Pettersson/Miller - Dry/McPP
who is better than Boeser on your roster?? who is better than DeBrusk??
Petey and Demko didn't show u in the playoffs and still took you guys to game 7 lmao.
let that sink in for a moment.
you don't even believe that.
Hyman is a product of Mcdrai, he's a 2nd liner with any other team. If you actually watch most of his goals last season, very few are from his own individual effort.
look at his point production before he won the lottery of playing with McPP.
take out Pettersson/Miller - Dry/McPP
who is better than Boeser on your roster?? who is better than DeBrusk??
Petey and Demko didn't show u in the playoffs and still took you guys to game 7 lmao.
let that sink in for a moment.
Canucks aren't a top offensive team, they had a hot first 12 games and then their goal scoring cooled significantly, the last 69 games was actually a lower goals per game than the season prior when they missed the playoffs.
And then in the playoffs their offense was mediocre, averaging only 2.53 goals per game.
This is from Nov. 11 onwards:
NHL Team Most Goals Since November 11 | StatMuse
Since November 11, 2023, the Colorado Avalanche have put up the most goals by a team, with 262 scored.
Canucks are just a hair above the Calgary Flames for goals, I guess Calgary is an offensive juggernaut too.
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Hyman is much better than you want to give him credit for. He's right on par with Boeser. Not his fault he's learned to adapt his game perfectly to McDavid. Canucks don't even have 5 top 6 forwards at this point they have 4 and two 3rd liners playing in their top 6. The Oilers have 8 with 2 of their top 6ers playing in the bottom 6.you don't even believe that.
Hyman is a product of Mcdrai, he's a 2nd liner with any other team. If you actually watch most of his goals last season, very few are from his own individual effort.
look at his point production before he won the lottery of playing with McPP.
take out Pettersson/Miller - Dry/McPP
who is better than Boeser on your roster?? who is better than DeBrusk??
Petey and Demko didn't show u in the playoffs and still took you guys to game 7 lmao.
let that sink in for a moment.
Debrusk would be on the Oilers 3rd line, but he's gonna be on your top line.
Oilers have been the no.1 offensive team in the NHL for a while now, prior to any of these moves, they were no.1 in goals for in 22-23, and were no.2 in 23-24 under Knoblaugh, just one goal behind the Avalanche.
In the last two regular seasons, they're the only team I believe in the league with over 600 goals at 617, no one else is above 576, so it's not even close they are no.1 by a giant margin. It's the Oilers at no.1 and then a 40 goal gap to a glut of teams at no.2/3/4.
In the playoffs, the Oilers also have the highest goals per game the last three years combined (so if you want a wider sample size, not just of one year). They were easily the highest scoring team in the playoffs this year.
And it's not just about adding two more scoring wingers, keeping Janmark + Brown + Henrqiue as key pillars of a power house penalty kill from last season is also extremely important, it's a big part of the season the Oilers were also the 2nd best team in the playoffs for goals against, almost tying Florida.
In the last two regular seasons, they're the only team I believe in the league with over 600 goals at 617, no one else is above 576, so it's not even close they are no.1 by a giant margin. It's the Oilers at no.1 and then a 40 goal gap to a glut of teams at no.2/3/4.
In the playoffs, the Oilers also have the highest goals per game the last three years combined (so if you want a wider sample size, not just of one year). They were easily the highest scoring team in the playoffs this year.
And it's not just about adding two more scoring wingers, keeping Janmark + Brown + Henrqiue as key pillars of a power house penalty kill from last season is also extremely important, it's a big part of the season the Oilers were also the 2nd best team in the playoffs for goals against, almost tying Florida.
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McFlyingV
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You can go back 4 years and the Oilers are still the highest scoring team over that span.
