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Zman5778 said:
While true, Maye is their legitimate starting QB and Dobbs is a solid backup/mentor type. The roster spot for a 3rd QB is most likely better used at another position for another young, developing player.
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QB's are top tier commodity though. If they can develop and showcase Milton over the next year or two and he still shows well, that could get a desperate team to throw a big package to them. I would rather take that gamble than to carry a 6th WR or 5th safety. Getting a fifth for a former 6th round QB who showed well and a 25 7th seems kinda meh.
 
I did a PFF mock with a trade to the Raiders for 68. Controlled the Saints for the trade down and the Raiders for the trade.

40: Landon Jackson, DE
56: Benjamin Morrison, CB
62: CJ West, DT
68: Jordan Phillips, DT
93: Isaiah Bond, WR

I took Morrison at 56 with Skattabo and Henderson on the board just to see how far they'd fall. Both didn't last until 62. In a re-do, I'd take the RB at 56 and try for Morrison at 62 and just take one DT.
 
I'm fine with keeping cook, and then you either tag him or, let him walk. If he walks, wouldn't we most likely get comped in the what, 2027 draft for him? Probly a 4th or a 5th?

If the comp is roughly right, then i think i would rather get contract year production out of him for another year, and hope for a comp pick. Rather than trading him now after only 3 seasons for say an early 3rd rounder. if it were possibly to get a higher pick than what Jeremy White suggested, then I might be enticed.

Eitherway, I think the least likely outcome is some kind of 3 year 40 million deal this summer, or even next summer. I don't wanna pay an RB (especially after an anomaly 18 TD season), unless it's Barkley level talent.
 
Selanne00008 said:
I'm fine with keeping cook, and then you either tag him or, let him walk. If he walks, wouldn't we most likely get comped in the what, 2027 draft for him? Probly a 4th or a 5th?

If the comp is roughly right, then i think i would rather get contract year production out of him for another year, and hope for a comp pick. Rather than trading him now after only 3 seasons for say an early 3rd rounder. if it were possibly to get a higher pick than what Jeremy White suggested, then I might be enticed.

Eitherway, I think the least likely outcome is some kind of 3 year 40 million deal this summer, or even next summer. I don't wanna pay an RB (especially after an anomaly 18 TD season), unless it's Barkley level talent.
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If they Cook walk after the 2025 season, a potential comp pick would be in 2027.

The NFL comp pick formula would be hard to know what round a potential Cook pick would be in. And then you have the question of whether or not they would get comp picks in 2027. Today, it doesn't look like they will get one in 2026.

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Right now, they are -1 in 2026 Comp Pick Bingo (Hoecht & Palmer in and Hollins out).
 
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Jim Bob said:
Right now, they are -1 in 2026 Comp Pick Bingo (Hoecht & Palmer in and Hollins out).
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Assuming we don't sign any more UFAs.......

Douglas would likely get us to even-up......and MAYBE we get something if/when Von signs somewhere? Maybe Smoot or Johnson or Cooper gets us a comp pick?

Ain't gonna get much in the way of comp picks next year, methinks
 
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Zman5778 said:
Assuming we don't sign any more UFAs.......

Douglas would likely get us to even-up......and MAYBE we get something if/when Von signs somewhere? Maybe Smoot or Johnson or Cooper gets us a comp pick?

Ain't gonna get much in the way of comp picks next year, methinks
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Von no because he was cut. Douglas yes. Cooper would be the other one. But remember the comp formula only applies to FAs signed before the deadline, which is typically the Monday after the draft. At this point anyone unsigned probably won't sign until after the deadline and thus won't count.
 
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TehDoak said:
In regards to cook, I don't think you are getting a better running back in the draft.

You play out this year with him, and if he does well, you offer him a top 5 RB contract for 3 years. If he doesn't take that, you franchise tag him and listen to trade offers.

If he just has an average year, you let him walk.
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And if he walks, take the comp pick. It would probably be a 5th, maybe a 4th if things break right. One year (or two with the franchise tag) of Cook is worth the difference between a 3rd and that IMO.
 
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Zman5778 said:
Assuming we don't sign any more UFAs.......

Douglas would likely get us to even-up......and MAYBE we get something if/when Von signs somewhere? Maybe Smoot or Johnson or Cooper gets us a comp pick?

Ain't gonna get much in the way of comp picks next year, methinks
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Von is outside the comp formula - he was a cut, not an expiring contract.
 
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Zman5778 said:
Assuming we don't sign any more UFAs.......

Douglas would likely get us to even-up......and MAYBE we get something if/when Von signs somewhere? Maybe Smoot or Johnson or Cooper gets us a comp pick?

Ain't gonna get much in the way of comp picks next year, methinks
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Von doesn't count because he was cut.

And the deadline for comp pick bingo is coming quick. My guess is that teams are waiting until the deadline passes to sign guys that are still out there and would factor into the bingo unless they are well underwater already.
 
PFF mock. Controlled the Saints for the trade down.

40: Trey Amos, CB
56: Jared Ivey, DE
62: Alfred Collins, DT
93: Andrew Mukuba, S

And then to follow up and bolster the DT position, I would've went with Caldwell at 109, if I had the PFF subscription.
 
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Job B on Harmon vs Grant

Defensive tackles in the NFL Draft that could be good fits for Bills’ needs

Why Grant falls below Harmon all has to do with current third-down capabilities. At this point, Grant is more of a clean-up pass-rusher than one who disrupts the pocket, and early on in his career, he may be nothing more than an early-down asset who has to come off the field for obvious pass-rushing situations, though there is more of a nimbleness to his movement abilities than other massive one-technique run-stuffers. He’ll never dip and rip through blockers, but through his power and movement skills, there is a path to seeing him develop as an asset on third downs. It will take some projecting by the team that drafts him.

If Harmon is available in the mid-20s or at No. 30 for the Bills, it could be a slam-dunk investment for them.

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Jamaree Caldwell, Oregon — Caldwell is a gap-plugging, space-eating, one-technique-only prospect at 332 pounds with a quick first step. There is some thought he would be best suited to the 0-technique role in a 3-4 defense, but he’s a clear strength as a run defender.
 
ValJamesDuex said:
Job B on Harmon vs Grant

Defensive tackles in the NFL Draft that could be good fits for Bills’ needs

Why Grant falls below Harmon all has to do with current third-down capabilities. At this point, Grant is more of a clean-up pass-rusher than one who disrupts the pocket, and early on in his career, he may be nothing more than an early-down asset who has to come off the field for obvious pass-rushing situations, though there is more of a nimbleness to his movement abilities than other massive one-technique run-stuffers. He’ll never dip and rip through blockers, but through his power and movement skills, there is a path to seeing him develop as an asset on third downs. It will take some projecting by the team that drafts him.

If Harmon is available in the mid-20s or at No. 30 for the Bills, it could be a slam-dunk investment for them.

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Jamaree Caldwell, Oregon — Caldwell is a gap-plugging, space-eating, one-technique-only prospect at 332 pounds with a quick first step. There is some thought he would be best suited to the 0-technique role in a 3-4 defense, but he’s a clear strength as a run defender.
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Joe Marino is all in on Harmon and Grant as true 1st round 1TDTs for the Bills because he likes Grant as a pass rush threat more than many.

It will be interesting if the Bills take a traditional NT like Caldwell, or even a guy like Collins to try and become more stout against the run.
 
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I have a confession to make. There is a debate on Twitter that I need to give up and I just can't.

There is a Bills fan that thinks this is a good idea since the Bills have Josh Allen and Dion Dawkins.

Trade away all this to go up to the 3rd pick to take Travis Hunter:

- James Cook
- 2025 1st (30)
- 2025 2nd (56)
- 2025 2nd (62)
- 2026 1st
- 2026 2nd

I cannot get my mind around how anyone could think that would be a good idea for the Bills in a SB contention window and needing quality players on rookie deals as Josh Allen is in the "big money franchise QB" part of his career.

His main counter-argument is that they would still have 7 picks in 2025 to address needs.

I am like yeah, but they would have 1 pick in the top 100 and 3 picks in the top 150.

:facepalm:
 
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In terms of practicality it doesn't seem like a great idea.

In terms of value, using one chart which may vary from others, I don't know, The Bills 1st and two 2nds are 1200ish in value versus 2000 for the third overall pick. A late 1st and 2nd the following year would exceed the Giants value where they may have to return a 2025 4th and 5th. That's without factoring in whatever value is assigned to Cook.
 
I’d give up a lot for Travis Hunter on a rookie contract. He is a better WR prospect than the top 3 guys last year. He is probably the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson.

That said: the package listed is just too much. Just way way too much. I’m a big proponent of “f*** them picks”, but the Bills need (at the moment) 1-3 starters on the D to come out of this draft in CB2, 1-tech, and Safety. This trade makes it all but certain they get 0, not to mention a need to get a key contributor at RB (which they definitely could in the 4th). If there was a way to do this trade without giving up both 2nds this year, I’d be more inclined.

Edit: I just realized there’s a reality where Hunter is CB2, and then used in some packages as a WR, but I’m skeptical that he can withstand the rigor of the NFL on both sides of the ball.
 
Jim Bob said:
I have a confession to make. There is a debate on Twitter that I need to give up and I just can't.

There is a Bills fan that thinks this is a good idea since the Bills have Josh Allen and Dion Dawkins.

Trade away all this to go up to the 3rd pick to take Travis Hunter:

- James Cook
- 2025 1st (30)
- 2025 2nd (56)
- 2025 2nd (62)
- 2026 1st
- 2026 2nd

I cannot get my mind around how anyone could think that would be a good idea for the Bills in a SB contention window and needing quality players on rookie deals as Josh Allen is in the "big money franchise QB" part of his career.

His main counter-argument is that they would still have 7 picks in 2025 to address needs.

I am like yeah, but they would have 1 pick in the top 100 and 3 picks in the top 150.

:facepalm:
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Most of the smart people I follow think Hunter is going to be a CB with some plays mixed in on offense. So if we hypothetically imagine he hits the highest of high ceilings and develops into a Pat Surtain or a Sauce Gardner on defense, and maybe a gadget player like Dante Hall on offense? That would be best case scenario in my mind.

After considering his ceiling, I then look at this through the lens of - would I give up that package for a combination of Pat Surtain and Dante Hall? And the answer to that question is a resounding no. As others have mentioned, those picks should net a starting DT, starting CB, rotational edge or WR, and two more starters next year. Just way too much ammo for a single player that hasn't spent enough time at one position to really know what his ceiling will be.
 
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