TSN: The Official Ottawa Sports Radio Thread - PART XII

[DrEasy]

Good luck to good man DJ.
Audio interview,

Smith: "I believe I made the kids better people and players"

Former Senators head coach DJ Smith on his time in Ottawa, why it didn't work, would he have done anything differently, holding his players accountable and the impact of the "fire DJ" chants.

www.tsn.ca

Wow, great interview. Recommended!

 

[Beech]

No they never call a spade a spade. Even in the post game shows they usually stopped short they’d say something like “it’s clear something has to change” and point out repeated identical mistakes but wouldn’t outright say “the coach has to go”. Then would take a bunch of callers, let them make negative comments and look for silver linings.

I think Ottawa media has been beaten into submission by the Melnyk regime. Much like players relearning habits, they’re going to have to learn to question the team again.

in the late 1960's Vietnam was raging. The Americans allowed full access to media.. They had done so in WWII and Korea and were naïve in its impact. they assumed that they would win the war easily and wanted it glorified at home...

Vietnam was a shit show.. American loses.. American atrocities (the My Lai Massacre). When Walter Cronkite said the war is lost and the Americans need to pull out (Feb 1968), it turned public opinion and forced Johnson to pull out of the race for the 68 elections.

It taught the world a lesson on media access... It introduced the Mushroom principle (Keep them in the dark, feed them shit).

So today, everything is about message control. About manipulation about propaganda. NO Walter Cronkite, No Edwin R. Murrow.

So, media today is to be used to broadcast your message, not question it. Media is; strong armed, bought, manipulated, etc...

NO ONE WANTS pictures of dead bodies in some village, thanks to 19 year olds going nuts!!!!
NO ONE WANTS a question as to why you cannot get a goaltender who can stop a beach ball
NO ONE WANTs.... media to incite.... and so to cause a Melnyk out... and so to result in 25 M a year (or more) in loses.

For more history lessons.. The pentagon papers were leaked to the Washington post.. When Nixon saw that, he realized that the files on him; telling the North Vietnamese to not negotiate peace until he was President (and SO TREASON) risked also being leaked..He ordered Watergate!!!!! Who brought him down? Woodward and Bernstein Newspaper men...Media

More lessons on control the message.

 

[Tuna99]

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[Beech]

in the 7-8 hour this morning. JR was talking about the immediate future with the team.

About Staios, et all. Assessing the team. Seeing who wants to be here and asking "Do you want to be here or we will get rid of you".. I have heard that a ton from Canadian sports media, about all 7 teams.

f***ing Really.. stop talking this way.. all of you.. This is not the 1960's and careers can be ruined!!!!

Players have contracts, they have to be honoured
The NHLPA is powerful and not to be f***ed with
All NH teams are run nearly identically and with tremendous privileges
Canada is the wasteland.. Siberia.. high taxes, miserable weather, long travel distances

So a player with an 8 x 8 contract.. is going to be what??? Bullied, threatened... Really??????

If Batherson or Norris are not 100% in, what???? trade them to a team in Florida?? They will have their bags packed before you finish telling them.

We need to park our ego in Canada. We need to realize our situation. We need to learn to draft players we can trust. We need to keep them hungry by small contracts and use them until UFA dates.

We need to draft really well to ensure the next guy is in the queue to replace the FA that leaves or forces his hand out.

Take a good f***ing look at the draft.. less and less Canadians.. and even "Good old Canadian Boys" want the Florida sunshine and Vegas lights..

Do you think there is a line-up of players wanting to be in Ottawa?

My favorite line that Canadian media uses "He will asses who wants to stay and ship the others out"... wooohooooo... that will teach them..

Has Mathew Tkachuk stopped crying yet? or was that laughter... Hello Calgary. Enjoy your next 5-10 years in Hockey Hell.

 

[Tuna99]

in the 7-8 hour this morning. JR was talking about the immediate future with the team.

About Staios, et all. Assessing the team. Seeing who wants to be here and asking "Do you want to be here or we will get rid of you".. I have heard that a ton from Canadian sports media, about all 7 teams.

f***ing Really.. stop talking this way.. all of you.. This is not the 1960's and careers can be ruined!!!!

Players have contracts, they have to be honoured
The NHLPA is powerful and not to be f***ed with
All NH teams are run nearly identically and with tremendous privileges
Canada is the wasteland.. Siberia.. high taxes, miserable weather, long travel distances

So a player with an 8 x 8 contract.. is going to be what??? Bullied, threatened... Really??????

If Batherson or Norris are not 100% in, what???? trade them to a team in Florida?? They will have their bags packed before you finish telling them.

We need to park our ego in Canada. We need to realize our situation. We need to learn to draft players we can trust. We need to keep them hungry by small contracts and use them until UFA dates.

We need to draft really well to ensure the next guy is in the queue to replace the FA that leaves or forces his hand out.

Take a good f***ing look at the draft.. less and less Canadians.. and even "Good old Canadian Boys" want the Florida sunshine and Vegas lights..

Do you think there is a line-up of players wanting to be in Ottawa?

My favorite line that Canadian media uses "He will asses who wants to stay and ship the others out"... wooohooooo... that will teach them..

Has Mathew Tkachuk stopped crying yet? or was that laughter... Hello Calgary. Enjoy your next 5-10 years in Hockey Hell.

Radek Bonk likes it

 

[Beech]

Radek Bonk likes it

figure out where Mrs. Bonk is from..

What is the expression " Cherchez la femme"

 

[Loach]

Listening to the post game right now. I wish Dr. Bob would go away. Am I a bad person?

 

[Bileur]

Listening to the post game right now. I wish Dr. Bob would go away. Am I a bad person?

I came here to post this.

Why do we need a dedicated Dr Bob segment on every postgame?

I appreciate his efforts at fundraising but we don’t need his takes every game or his shout outs to whoever he met at the rink.

 

[Tuna99]

Can we get a mental health Sadness check on Brandon from LockedonSens - I know they send the Cops in the USA so good chance he gets shot for no reason but that might be best for a Sens fan at this point

 

[Tuna99]

John Toryerella has his game face on now that his team is in the hunt. Talk about a coach having his players back.

This is coaching and protecting your players. Not letting them do whatever they want on the ice so they can show their talent in a losing situation - it’s demanding everything they have but also providing them with the blanket of security to roll protect them so they’ll run throguna wall for you

 

[Tuna99]

Important to note everyone was wrong about the Sens this year, the former GM? The former coach, the players, the media, and a massive part of the fanbase. Dave Poulin was wrong

So for all those media dudes who have the answer now for how to fix Ottawa - go f*** yourself

What’s important to note on the media is how rank they suddenly have become. Hey went 6 years under Odeion and Dj without even mild criticism because Dorion and DJ fed these media dudes stories on a daily basis. Now that Staois has shut off the media leaks the ottawa Sun guys in particular have become super critical and bitchy in their analysis.

And this is the reason things seem brutal right now, the media is sick of the team losing and analyzing 6 years of shit hockey and without the leaks from the team their jobs are suddenly no fun. It’s hard when you’re around prod and not donkeys like Dorion feeding you rumours on his drive into work because he wants to feel likeSo n

 

[HSF]

Can we get a mental health Sadness check on Brandon from LockedonSens - I know they send the Cops in the USA so good chance he gets shot for no reason but that might be best for a Sens fan at this point

what happened?

 

[Tuna99]

what happened?

Their show audio sounds like 2 dudes who have been cheated on, robbed, dead dog, burnt dinner - they went from the audio we needed when everything wads so negative to now being the dudes who complain about everything and aren’t friendly. I get it sucks - but you can feel how unfun it is over the airwaves and it just sinks of legacy media laziness and burnout mess

 

[Tuna99]

Their show audio sounds like 2 dudes who have been cheated on, robbed, dead dog, burnt dinner - they went from the audio we needed when everything wads so negative to now being the dudes who complain about everything and aren’t friendly. I get it sucks - but you can feel how unfun it is over the airwaves and it just sinks of legacy media laziness and burnout mess

I’m also think they should get rid of Martian - these guys are community from afar and personality with analysis - and Martian is just personality with frosted tips. Releasing his drunken “just having some red blooded man fun go f*** yourself” attitude is shot but Laos not on brand for those two. f*** Martin’s he wants to be the barstool guy for them and release a dumbs ass tweet the same week the woman are launching their

 

[Loach]

I’m also think they should get rid of Martian - these guys are community from afar and personality with analysis - and Martian is just personality with frosted tips. Releasing his drunken “just having some red blooded man fun go f*** yourself” attitude is shot but Laos not on brand for those two. f*** Martin’s he wants to be the barstool guy for them and release a dumbs ass tweet the same week the woman are launching their

Put down the pipe

 

[Bileur]

I’m also think they should get rid of Martian - these guys are community from afar and personality with analysis - and Martian is just personality with frosted tips. Releasing his drunken “just having some red blooded man fun go f*** yourself” attitude is shot but Laos not on brand for those two. f*** Martin’s he wants to be the barstool guy for them and release a dumbs ass tweet the same week the woman are launching their

I don’t know about get rid of him but he should tone it down for sure. Ottawa isn’t Boston, a more measured approach is better.

Important to note everyone was wrong about the Sens this year, the former GM? The former coach, the players, the media, and a massive part of the fanbase. Dave Poulin was wrong

So for all those media dudes who have the answer now for how to fix Ottawa - go f*** yourself

What’s important to note on the media is how rank they suddenly have become. Hey went 6 years under Odeion and Dj without even mild criticism because Dorion and DJ fed these media dudes stories on a daily basis. Now that Staois has shut off the media leaks the ottawa Sun guys in particular have become super critical and bitchy in their analysis.

And this is the reason things seem brutal right now, the media is sick of the team losing and analyzing 6 years of shit hockey and without the leaks from the team their jobs are suddenly no fun. It’s hard when you’re around prod and not donkeys like Dorion feeding you rumours on his drive into work because he wants to feel likeSo n

It really is striking and I think you’re spot on.

 

[James Walker]

Serious question: Has anyone here ever texted the answer to a question to TSN1200, and won?

This week, the prize was 4 tickets to the Bruins/Senators game on Thursday January 25th.

The last 2 days I texted answers - both were Bruin related questions, and I responded correctly almost immediately to both (easy questions to answer because I am a Bruin fan).

I was shocked to find I had not won in both cases.

.Edit, this week was the first time I ever texted to TSN1200.

 

[Bileur]

Serious question: Has anyone here ever texted the answer to a question to TSN1200, and won?

This week, the prize was 4 tickets to the Bruins/Senators game on Thursday January 25th.

The last 2 days I texted answers - both were Bruin related questions, and I responded correctly almost immediately to both (easy questions to answer because I am a Bruin fan).

I was shocked to find I had not won in both cases.

.

I once won on a texter of the day thing.

 

[Beech]

Serious question: Has anyone here ever texted the answer to a question to TSN1200, and won?

This week, the prize was 4 tickets to the Bruins/Senators game on Thursday January 25th.

The last 2 days I texted answers - both were Bruin related questions, and I responded correctly almost immediately to both (easy questions to answer because I am a Bruin fan).

I was shocked to find I had not won in both cases.

.Edit, this week was the first time I ever texted to TSN1200.

James,

I won a football pool some 5 years ago.. It was a weekly one. A $100 Baton Rouge gift certificate. I had to go through hoops to get the prize.. Even at the station, they kept me waiting an hour!!!

I have heard JR question his people about "fixes" and "prize distribution".

I often wondered how many TSN1200 workers enjoyed $100 meals at Baton Rouge for the few years the football pool ran? So, you have to ask, how many tsn1200 employees or their friends enjoyed 4 Sens/Bruins tickets, and so on.

So, when a call in/text in contest is on... don't hold your breath.

I am guessing that most radio contests, end up perks for the employees. I am guessing 2 tickets to Maroon 5, is probably well enjoyed by someone's wife and daughter.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Serious question: Has anyone here ever texted the answer to a question to TSN1200, and won?

This week, the prize was 4 tickets to the Bruins/Senators game on Thursday January 25th.

The last 2 days I texted answers - both were Bruin related questions, and I responded correctly almost immediately to both (easy questions to answer because I am a Bruin fan).

I was shocked to find I had not won in both cases.

.Edit, this week was the first time I ever texted to TSN1200.

So
Sometimes it’s caller X with the right answer.
I’ve won twice over the years, but only usually send an answer couple of times a year.

 

[James Walker]

So
Sometimes it’s caller X with the right answer.
I’ve won twice over the years, but only usually send an answer couple of times a year.

They did the 'call'er X thing with Bruce McCulloch tickets being given away this week.
With texts, I believe it is always 'first correct answer'.

 

[Golden_Jet]

They did the 'call'er X thing with Bruce McCulloch tickets being given away this week.
With texts, I believe it is always 'first correct answer'.

I won once on a call and once on a text answer, think it was the 8th correct text when I won that way.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Important to note everyone was wrong about the Sens this year, the former GM? The former coach, the players, the media, and a massive part of the fanbase. Dave Poulin was wrong

So for all those media dudes who have the answer now for how to fix Ottawa - go f*** yourself

What’s important to note on the media is how rank they suddenly have become. Hey went 6 years under Odeion and Dj without even mild criticism because Dorion and DJ fed these media dudes stories on a daily basis. Now that Staois has shut off the media leaks the ottawa Sun guys in particular have become super critical and bitchy in their analysis.

And this is the reason things seem brutal right now, the media is sick of the team losing and analyzing 6 years of shit hockey and without the leaks from the team their jobs are suddenly no fun. It’s hard when you’re around prod and not donkeys like Dorion feeding you rumours on his drive into work because he wants to feel likeSo n

One of the most irritating/annoying people for this is McLennan.
All of a sudden he has insights on every f***ing play based on the echo chamber.
Captain obvious never pointed out a single f***ing thing for 5 years now it’s all so obvious to him.

f*** you Noodles, also Korpisalo’s deal is worth $4 million/year not 5 - so if you feel the need to comment on his term and salary feel free to look it up first.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Serious question: Has anyone here ever texted the answer to a question to TSN1200, and won?

This week, the prize was 4 tickets to the Bruins/Senators game on Thursday January 25th.

The last 2 days I texted answers - both were Bruin related questions, and I responded correctly almost immediately to both (easy questions to answer because I am a Bruin fan).

I was shocked to find I had not won in both cases.

.Edit, this week was the first time I ever texted to TSN1200.

They randomly pick one of the correct answers

 

[James Walker]

They randomly pick one of the correct answers

I could have sworn I heard first correct answer, I will have to listen more carefully next time.

Thank you.