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Gladiator
Scott (2000)
“There is always someone left to fight.”
Funny enough a week before this was selected, I was at a bar. Gladiator came on one of the TVs. No sound. No subtitles. Just image. I ended up watching about the first 40 minutes or so before I left. What really jumped out to me was how little the dialogue mattered. I had seen it before so familiarity certainly helps. The action largely speaks for itself but the performances fully come through without needing to hear any words. Movements, expressions all convey the story clearly. It helps to have a cast of great faces in peak or near-peak form.
It's the crowd-pleasing, pump-up-the-jock-jammy action that I think keeps this in high regard for many. Certainly helps to have moments and quotes to play on repeat at sports arenas until the end of time. That’s fine. I like well-done action violence too but upon this rewatch I think the best part of Gladiator is Joaquin Phoenix’s villainous Commodus. I was always a little dismissive of the performance (despite my love of the actor) but boy is he good here. His pouty sadness is more tragic than petulant and he morphs that into a wonderfully creepy and sniveling villainousness.
Crowe is a slab of marble. I mean that in a good way, though this Oscar winning role isn't among his best work. Slighting this only because there's not a lot there and he's done a lot more with better, more interesting characters.
There’s some nitpicking — there are multiple big scene-setting CGI shots that are shockingly aged. The close up stuff has held up well, but the 3-4 establishing shots of the Colosseum and some other environments are like spoiled wine. There’s a little too much slo-mo for my tastes. Hans Zimmer’s score cribs too much from his similar (and better) work in Crimson Tide and The Rock.
There was an online discussion I read recently (not here) where the question was: Who are good examples of good journeyman directors working today? Is Ridley Scott too good to hold that title? I think many might say yes and I might be among them. But I’m not totally sure … Pretend he didn’t direct Blade Runner and Alien and NOW think about that question. (I actually answered Martin Campbell FWIW).
This has always been a bit of a weird Oscar winner to me. It’s a good version of what it is, but even in the moment I’ve never been quite as bowled over by it as its staunchest defenders (the majority of whom I feel live on these boards ) Though it always stands as one of my big proof points in my annual Oscar rant that contrary to the commonly held opinion the Academy actually really likes rewarding big populist movies. So I got that going for me.
I continue to enjoy this movie though I’ll never love it as much as most.
Scott (2000)
“There is always someone left to fight.”
Funny enough a week before this was selected, I was at a bar. Gladiator came on one of the TVs. No sound. No subtitles. Just image. I ended up watching about the first 40 minutes or so before I left. What really jumped out to me was how little the dialogue mattered. I had seen it before so familiarity certainly helps. The action largely speaks for itself but the performances fully come through without needing to hear any words. Movements, expressions all convey the story clearly. It helps to have a cast of great faces in peak or near-peak form.
It's the crowd-pleasing, pump-up-the-jock-jammy action that I think keeps this in high regard for many. Certainly helps to have moments and quotes to play on repeat at sports arenas until the end of time. That’s fine. I like well-done action violence too but upon this rewatch I think the best part of Gladiator is Joaquin Phoenix’s villainous Commodus. I was always a little dismissive of the performance (despite my love of the actor) but boy is he good here. His pouty sadness is more tragic than petulant and he morphs that into a wonderfully creepy and sniveling villainousness.
Crowe is a slab of marble. I mean that in a good way, though this Oscar winning role isn't among his best work. Slighting this only because there's not a lot there and he's done a lot more with better, more interesting characters.
There’s some nitpicking — there are multiple big scene-setting CGI shots that are shockingly aged. The close up stuff has held up well, but the 3-4 establishing shots of the Colosseum and some other environments are like spoiled wine. There’s a little too much slo-mo for my tastes. Hans Zimmer’s score cribs too much from his similar (and better) work in Crimson Tide and The Rock.
There was an online discussion I read recently (not here) where the question was: Who are good examples of good journeyman directors working today? Is Ridley Scott too good to hold that title? I think many might say yes and I might be among them. But I’m not totally sure … Pretend he didn’t direct Blade Runner and Alien and NOW think about that question. (I actually answered Martin Campbell FWIW).
This has always been a bit of a weird Oscar winner to me. It’s a good version of what it is, but even in the moment I’ve never been quite as bowled over by it as its staunchest defenders (the majority of whom I feel live on these boards ) Though it always stands as one of my big proof points in my annual Oscar rant that contrary to the commonly held opinion the Academy actually really likes rewarding big populist movies. So I got that going for me.
I continue to enjoy this movie though I’ll never love it as much as most.