GDT: The Official 2016 #hcanes College Football Thread

[Dishface]

lol at Ole Miss still being ranked.

State may have gotten that spot if they beat Clemson which is still lul.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

I wish my front yard had bushes. i wanna recreate that meme of Homer. I'll put on an ECU jersey and back into them, then come out wearing a UW jersey

or Alabama haha

 

[Oogie Boogie]

Washington please

 

[Unsustainable]

Wisconsin being ranked with 2 losses over undefeated teams makes no sense.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Wisconsin being ranked with 2 losses over undefeated teams makes no sense.

Well....the nature of those losses are important. By 6 and 7 points to two top five teams.

 

[Brock Anton]

And the Big 12 just committed suicide today by choosing not to expand. IMO this was the first step to the inevitable four 16-team superconferences.

I could see something like this in the next 5 years.....

ACC (loses NCSU/VT to SEC, adds Cincy, WVU, UConn and ND)
Atlantic: Boston College, Cincinnati, Clemson, Connecticut, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest
Coastal: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Virginia, West Virginia

Big Ten (scoops up OU, who leaves Texas and OSU, and KU)
East: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
West: Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oklahoma, Wisconsin

Pac-12 (picks up rest of Big 12 Texas schools + OSU)
North: California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Utah, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, UCLA, USC

SEC (poaches VT and NCSU from ACC)
East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, NC State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss, Texas A&M

Iowa State, Kansas State and TCU get left out and join the American, C-USA or something.

 

[Unsustainable]

All conferences need a championship game and the playoffs need to consist of those winners

 

[Unsustainable]

Well....the nature of those losses are important. By 6 and 7 points to two top five teams.

They had 2 chances to show they can beat a top 10 team and lost, so clearly they aren't top 10

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Washington please

well, my soon to be famous horror screenplay is set in Washington

 

[Sens1Canes2]

They had 2 chances to show they can beat a top 10 team and lost, so clearly they aren't top 10

Well technically they could be the 3rd best team in the country.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

They had 2 chances to show they can beat a top 10 team and lost, so clearly they aren't top 10

Those weren't just "top 10" teams though. They had 2 chances against top 4 teams and couldn't pull it off, so clearly they aren't top 4. Top 10 though you can still make a pretty strong argument.

 

[HisIceness]

I just don't understand what the deal is with the Big 12. Cincinnati is right there for the taking and would give West Virginia a close opponent. I guess they don't want Houston joining, or they have something else brewing?

Kinda wonder what the landscape of conferences would look like today had the Big East said yes to Penn State way back when, what kind of impact that would have had. They eventually almost had no choice but to scoop up Miami and West Virginia to keep the conference afloat, at least that's what I got from 'Requiem for the Big East'.

 

[Brock Anton]

I just don't understand what the deal is with the Big 12. Cincinnati is right there for the taking and would give West Virginia a close opponent. I guess they don't want Houston joining, or they have something else brewing?

Kinda wonder what the landscape of conferences would look like today had the Big East said yes to Penn State way back when, what kind of impact that would have had. They eventually almost had no choice but to scoop up Miami and West Virginia to keep the conference afloat, at least that's what I got from 'Requiem for the Big East'.

Yeah, I can see not wanting Houston joining from an on-field standpoint (i.e. stealing recruits from UT, TTU and Baylor) but not adding Cincy and BYU is just dumb. It would open up the Big 12 to two untapped markets for the conference and allow them to have a conference championship. As I posted earlier, this is the death knell for the Big 12 because they just made 10-12 schools waste a ton of time and money, why would anyone go to the Big 12 now after they've pulled this ****? I'll give it less than a year before we hear rumors of schools beginning to look elsewhere (namely Oklahoma, they'll be the ones to get the ball rolling this go round IMO).

We probably would have already had superconferences had the Big East accepted Penn State in 1990, and it quite possibly have spelled the end for the ACC.

 

[Hockeywatching]

Isn't there something in Oklahoma law tying the fate of OSU and Oklahoma together or am I mistaken? From what I understand it's not so easy for Oklahoma to just say deuces to the Big 12 with OSU not following along.

 

[Brock Anton]

Isn't there something in Oklahoma law tying the fate of OSU and Oklahoma together or am I mistaken? From what I understand it's not so easy for Oklahoma to just say deuces to the Big 12 with OSU not following along.

I have no idea, that would make a decent amount of sense though.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Big Ten (scoops up OU, who leaves Texas and OSU, and KU)
East: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
West: Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oklahoma, Wisconsin

Oklahoma is not an AAU school, it's highly unlikely the Big Ten would select them unless they just want the football program that badly.

 

[DaveG]

While VERY true, OU started pushing HARD to get AAU status recently and should be able to get there by the time the Big 12s GoR runs out.

I'll be most interested to see what happens with the WVU situation. Basically they apparently had the votes to get in to the SEC in place during the last go-around but Slive was pushing for the network and wanted to take a look at a (much) larger market in Mizzou when they started making noise. I could EASILY see the SEC adding VT from the ACC and WVU from the Big 12.

I can see the B1G wanting to add OU (if they get to AAU status) and UT. Kansas also has AAU status but I can't see them being that appealing of an add. B1G would add 2 IMHO.

KU, Okie State, Tech, and TCU to the Pac makes sense once all the chairs are taken elsewhere.

 

[Unsustainable]

WVU should probably go to Big 1G with Pitt (Eat **** Pitt). Would bring back the back yard brawl.

 

[DaveG]

Can't see wvu getting aau status. Bad as it is to say they're a small state land grant that actually lives up to that mission.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

If anything, the Big Ten would probably love to poach UNC and Georgia Tech. The entire reason they went to Rutgers and Maryland was for the New York and DC markets. If they could get into the Atlanta and Research Triangle (maybe all of NC? I'm assuming UNC is popular throughout the state), I'm sure that would be their first choice.

 

[DaveG]

Wouldn't disagree with that at all. And GT may be "getable", I just don't think UNC goes anywhere unless the rest of the ACC goes belly up. They literally call the shots in the conference right now, so their only real motive to leave would be if the Titanic was sinking and there were only a limited number of lifeboats left.

Hate to say it but where the Big 12 really ****ed up wasn't in not taking any candidates here, but in not taking Louisville when the Big East went belly up and looking to add #12 after that, whether it's Houston, BYU, Cincy, or UConn. As a West Virginia guy I'm usually loathe to support ANYTHING Louisville, but they would have solidified the conference big time AND cut the ACC off at the knees giving the opportunity to possibly poach FSU and Clemson down the line if things played out favorably.

 

[Brock Anton]

While VERY true, OU started pushing HARD to get AAU status recently and should be able to get there by the time the Big 12s GoR runs out.

I'll be most interested to see what happens with the WVU situation. Basically they apparently had the votes to get in to the SEC in place during the last go-around but Slive was pushing for the network and wanted to take a look at a (much) larger market in Mizzou when they started making noise. I could EASILY see the SEC adding VT from the ACC and WVU from the Big 12.

I can see the B1G wanting to add OU (if they get to AAU status) and UT. Kansas also has AAU status but I can't see them being that appealing of an add. B1G would add 2 IMHO.

KU, Okie State, Tech, and TCU to the Pac makes sense once all the chairs are taken elsewhere.

I could see WVU in the SEC, but I think they would be a secondary target other than a prime one. It's kind of clear that the SEC would want to expand into VA and NC, as those are the only two southeastern states w/o SEC representation. VT has always been a rumored SEC target and if offered, I think they'd jump at the chance. I chose NCSU as the other one, because much like A&M was with UT, I could see them getting tired of being second fiddle to UNC. Breaking away and doing their own thing could be the best thing for NCSU (also $$$$). If the SEC can't get one or both of VT/NCSU, then I think WVU becomes a real target for them. I also think that OU could be in play with the SEC...but only if they're able to come alone as I don't think the SEC would take Okie State too, as that would prevent them from moving Mizzou to the West.

I think basketball alone is enough for the B1G to accept Kansas. That's a huge cash cow to add to the conference, they also give Nebraska and Iowa another regional rival.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I can't imagine a scenario where they break up the main 3 NC schools.

 

[Unsustainable]

Big 12 could have made the move to add Louisville, VT, Pitt, and Cincy.

That would have gave them well more eastern exposure. The BackYard Brawl would have given them a marquee game in the east every season also.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

And the Big 12 just committed suicide today by choosing not to expand. IMO this was the first step to the inevitable four 16-team superconferences.

I could see something like this in the next 5 years.....

ACC (loses NCSU/VT to SEC, adds Cincy, WVU, UConn and ND)
Atlantic: Boston College, Cincinnati, Clemson, Connecticut, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest
Coastal: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Virginia, West Virginia

Big Ten (scoops up OU, who leaves Texas and OSU, and KU)
East: Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
West: Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oklahoma, Wisconsin

Pac-12 (picks up rest of Big 12 Texas schools + OSU)
North: California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Utah, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, UCLA, USC

SEC (poaches VT and NCSU from ACC)
East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, NC State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss, Texas A&M

Iowa State, Kansas State and TCU get left out and join the American, C-USA or something.

No offense to the sizeable Wolfpack contingent here, but I'm just not sure the SEC would be interested in NC State. The only talk I've heard about NC State to the SEC has been from NC State fans upset with the pull (whether real or perceived) that they feel UNC has over the ACC. I'd honestly think ECU would be a better fit, although from a football perspective both Carter-Finley and Dowdy-Ficklen are a little small by SEC standards - they'd instantly be the second-smallest stadiums to Vandy's. IMO, if the SEC wants to expand to 16 it should go after Texas (now that we have Texas A&M this would be an amazing in-conference rivalry on par with Ohio State-Michigan) and ECU.