The Next Ones (after Bedard)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

DuPont is the best since McDavid. Maybe best of the 2000’s. No one else of the last 10 years has been generational either.

 

[Patty Ice]

“Good authority” lol…You can comfortably stop listening to that person

@frontsfan67

Whoever told you that clearly must watch soccer instead

Sorry. Apparently some people need a and a full explanation that I was referring to a person's post because I was able to read all the way down the first page.

 

[LeProspector]

i think McKenna is well on his way to be a top 5 pick next year, nothing guaranteed at this point but he’s making some positive steps.

Landon Dupont is special and (the next one) as the title suggests, McKenna is more Taylor Hall in my opinion, a very good offensive winger and may even win some hardware in his career. But not at all on the Bedard/McDavid/Dupont/Crosby levels.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

DuPont is the best since McDavid. Maybe best of the 2000’s. No one else of the last 10 years has been generational either.

Agreed, DuPont is head and shoulders above everyone not named McDavid/Crosby

 

[wetcoast]

Ovechkin before 2010 was better than Draisaitl ever was, his skating ability in addition to his skill and stature is something that simply doesn’t exist today. And I think Draisaitl is a top 3 player in the world

This is fair but Ovi had an excellent 3 year peak then was meh, in elite terms after that.

Some highs, some lows but became less dynamic and more of a volume shooter after that peak.

Draisaitl has had the much better prime which is 7 years.

Jaxon Jacobson (2027 draft) is tracking as a name to watch...

I like him alot but he isn't elite like some others being mentioned here.

 

[Fantomas]

Ovechkin's and Draisaitl's best 7 seasons in order by adjusted goals created:

O: 52.9, 47.2, 46.9, 46.1, 42.6, 41.2, 40.1

D: 50.5*, 48.6, 47.5, 46.9, 43.1, 42.8, 39.6

* so far this season (subject to change).

We'll see how Drai fares the rest of the way. Great player, but does he have the staying power?

Ovechkin, by the way, had two outstanding seasons after 2010 in which he finished first in Hart voting among skaters (once he won, other time he finished second to a goalie). Apparently this means "meh" to certain people, but not everybody has common sense.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

I think at this point, if we're talking generational, the only guy you could talk about is Landon Dupont.

Some others are definitely franchise level.

100% agree.

Dupont is the only one with a legitimate claim at that tag and he's a prospect you can use "the next one" for.

Probably the best 15-year-old defenseman I've ever watched.

 

[wetcoast]

Ovechkin's and Draisaitl best 7 seasons in order by adjusted goals created:

O: 52.9, 47.2, 46.9, 46.1, 42.6, 41.2, 40.1

D: 50.5*, 48.6, 47.5, 46.9, 43.1, 42.8, 39.6

* so far this season (subject to change).

We'll see how Drai fares the rest of the way. Great player, but does he have the staying power?

Ovechkin, by the way, had two outstanding seasons after 2010 in which he finished first in Hart voting among skaters (once he won, other time he finished second to a goalie). Apparently this means "meh" to certain people, but not everybody has common sense.

2 things here.

First adjusted goals created is basically another way to say goals.

I also use a 7 year consecutive prime for prime but others don't which is fair but they are slightly different metrics.

So using a 7 year consecutive prime makes this look quite different and the meh years were parts outside of the 3 year peak and we are comparing the elite of the elite not everyone.

Even if we take your "anytime 7 year prime" which is fair as it's a metric but not what I was referring to.

Even if we take your "anytime 7 year prime" which is fair as it's a metric but not what I was referring to Draisatal comes out on top as here are there 7 year adjusted point totals.

Drai 128,127,124,122,106,105,104

Ovi 122,117,114,107,104,94,92.

Draisatal comes consecutively also which was the point I was trying to convey and he might add more 100+ points adjusted seasons after this one still.

 

[wetcoast]

Its hillarious that the NHL previously had like 3 generational players ever, then now these little kids think every other draft has a generational player. Fans are so out of touch with reality

Yes and no.

If you are referring to Orr, Gretzky and Mario then since then we've had incredible growth of top NHL producing regions that simply didn't exist that pump out elite type of prospects today.

Quick name the elite prospects, heck even good NHL players coming out of British columbia or the maritimes before the 80's?

While the level of quality in the NHL has risen one would expect that exceptional, ie generational players won't stand out as much.