The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[McFlash97]

He would be part of development cuz he wouldn't have been a rental like the others.

Give the Blues credit. They saw a player ready to take the next step.
Jackson clearly didn't. He f'ed up

How the Oilers management keep fxxx up time after time in the most obvious of choices during McDrais prime years and get away with it is mind boggling. It's decisions like this that have led to out 2 superstars having to carry so much of the load all the time.

Everyone knew Holloway arrived and was going to be that second wave of young guys pushing, and these cartoon characters just let him go for 2 mill.

 

[Da McBomb]

I wonder how much time Oiler management actually spent debating whether to match the offer sheets... or did they let their ego get in the way and made up their minds right away and say something like 'eff these guys for signing these offer sheets... we're not matching'.

 

[McFlash97]

I wonder how much time Oiler management actually spent debating whether to match the offer sheets... or did they let their ego get in the way and made up their minds right away and say something like 'eff these guys for signing these offer sheets... we're not matching'.

Both Jackson and Bowman come across as narcissistic pricks. % these guys went into the week planning comprising of ways to look smarter than all the media and fans. If Holloway gets close to 70 points or 30 goals, these guys should be fired on the spot. Absolute highway robbery by the Blues. Everyone saw this coming except these 2 idiots. What makes matters worse is they trotted out Blake Dermott, Troy Stecher, Noah Philp and Drake Cagiulla as possible upgrades. Eat dxxx.

Holloway should have been a slam dunk. Boo these goofs everytime they show up to Rogers.

 

[Mr Positive]

How the Oilers management keep fxxx up time after time in the most obvious of choices during McDrais prime years and get away with it is mind boggling. It's decisions like this that have led to out 2 superstars having to carry so much of the load all the time.

Everyone knew Holloway arrived and was going to be that second wave of young guys pushing, and these cartoon characters just let him go for 2 mill.

We could have kept him for less than that. We tried forcing him to take the bare minimum as if he did nothing for us. Same with Broberg. Neither of these guys really wanted out

 

[TheNumber4]

I wonder how much time Oiler management actually spent debating whether to match the offer sheets... or did they let their ego get in the way and made up their minds right away and say something like 'eff these guys for signing these offer sheets... we're not matching'.

They definitely didn't do that.

As described by JJ, when the offersheets came in they spent time looking at all the possible scenarios it could play out. Match both, match none, Match one, etc.

 

[North]

We could have kept him for less than that. We tried forcing him to take the bare minimum as if he did nothing for us. Same with Broberg. Neither of these guys really wanted out

Bull. Broberg requested a trade and never rescinded that request.

 

[Mr Positive]

Bull. Broberg requested a trade and never rescinded that request.

None of us know what really happened. Even a trade demand is conditional. For me to take that seriously I'd have to see a trade demand again after the playoffs. All the reasons he demanded a trade for weren't there anymore. It was a totally new situation. I've seen players demand trades before, and having it end with a contract. It's not like a public rescinding of a trade request is required

 

[North]

None of us know what really happened. Even a trade demand is conditional. For me to take that seriously I'd have to see a trade demand again after the playoffs. All the reasons he demanded a trade for weren't there anymore. It was a totally new situation. I've seen players demand trades before, and having it end with a contract. It's not like a public rescinding of a trade request is required

Oh be for real. It was out there. If he wanted to stay he would have told his agent to communicate that.

 

[Stoneman89]

None of us know what really happened. Even a trade demand is conditional. For me to take that seriously I'd have to see a trade demand again after the playoffs. All the reasons he demanded a trade for weren't there anymore. It was a totally new situation. I've seen players demand trades before, and having it end with a contract. It's not like a public rescinding of a trade request is required

You're saying none of us know what really happened (and that is true) but earlier, you said neither of the guys really wanted out. We don't really know that either, do we? (Broberg did request a trade months earlier, but again, no one really knows if he still felt that way after the playoffs)

 

[Mr Positive]

Oh be for real. It was out there. If he wanted to stay he would have told his agent to communicate that.

Why would an agent do that? Rescinding a trade request would come after the contract, not before.

The agent and the Oilers were negotiating a contract. If the agent said that he still wanted out after that playoffs, he would have been traded.

But either way, even if you disagree with all this, the only real point of discussing this is connecting it to the quality of our management

I wanted us to keep Broberg but I would have been okay with trading him if we weren't going to find an extra million to keep him. Our management got it very wrong when they assumed we weren't susceptible. Wasn't there a story that Broberg even approached our management with the St.Louis offer sheet? If he really wanted out why even talk? And if management hears that then why not trade him?

 

[Mr Positive]

You're saying none of us know what really happened (and that is true) but earlier, you said neither of the guys really wanted out. We don't really know that either, do we? (Broberg did request a trade months earlier, but again, no one really knows if he still felt that way after the playoffs)

That's fair enough, but we are a contender who went deep in the playoffs, and they were important parts of that. Opportunity was what Broberg was upset about, and he was given that. So sure, there's some logic there instead of real evidence.

It seems clear that Broberg signed the offer sheet for the same reason Holloway did. Money. Just about any player would have in the same position

 

[Coffey]

Can’t blame the kids for wanting to get paid

 

[North]

Why would an agent do that? Rescinding a trade request would come after the contract, not before.

The agent and the Oilers were negotiating a contract. If the agent said that he still wanted out after that playoffs, he would have been traded.

But either way, even if you disagree with all this, the only real point of discussing this is connecting it to the quality of our management

I wanted us to keep Broberg but I would have been okay with trading him if we weren't going to find an extra million to keep him. Our management got it very wrong when they assumed we weren't susceptible. Wasn't there a story that Broberg even approached our management with the St.Louis offer sheet? If he really wanted out why even talk? And if management hears that then why not trade him?

Holloway approached them, not Broberg.

It’s clear the Oilers wanted to keep them at reasonable rates of pay, unfortunately that wasn’t what these two wanted so they signed offer sheets that were designed to ensure we wouldn’t even receive reasonable compensation.
Trading either of them wasn’t something they wanted to do simply because the Oilers knew they needed cheap young talent to thread into the lineup.

That being said I’m going to leave this thread because I’m over the incessant whining about what management did or didn’t do with regard to these two.