The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[brentashton]

Not if he is stubborn. He wants the playoffs. He maybe willing to put up with healthy scratches to get into the playoffs. None of us know the answer to that. Personally I agree that unless he goes to a playoff team? He rejects any trade and runs out his contract. You hate him we get it.

Not all. Indifferent? Yes.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Anyone can be moved. It takes the right mix of healthy scratches and attached draft picks. If you aren’t wanted, you eventually will agree to move.

So..if the Oilers do your idea and more or less shame him into getting dealt ANYWHERE and he does. July 1 2025...do you think any of the UFAS we try to sign maybe a little---how can I put it.. less willing to sign with the Oilers?

 

[yababy]

The oilers are in win now mode. Paying youth was never in the books.

I haven’t followed the to thread
Can someone explain to me why the Oilers would not match these offers?
It’s a bad decision on two relatively cheap contracts. These two were very high drafts picks so the upside is big.
I can’t see any upside to not matching. Included is that it sets up the Oilers as a future target.
I donut buy the “win now” argument. Both Holloway and Bromberg were very good in the playoffs and the experience will benefit them.
Also, Blues are winning with them…now, win now
Id fire whatever smartass was behind this decision

 

[StreetHawk]

I haven’t followed the to thread
Can someone explain to me why the Oilers would not match these offers?
It’s a bad decision on two relatively cheap contracts. These two were very high drafts picks so the upside is big.
I can’t see any upside to not matching. Included is that it sets up the Oilers as a future target.
I donut buy the “win now” argument. Both Holloway and Bromberg were very good in the playoffs and the experience will benefit them.
Also, Blues are winning with them…now, win now
Id fire whatever smartass was behind this decision

Broberg had asked for a trade last season, so he would have been way more willing to seek an OS, which is what his agent went out and did.
Holloway is the more surprising one, but when you can get double the offer EDM was in at and as a player with a couple of injuries earlier in his career, best to take the money and get it locked in, plus raises the bar on the QO.

Holloway is now up to 8 goals and 15 points through close to the 1/3 mark of the season. Pacing for 25 goals and mid 40 point season.

Teams mostly leave their RFAs until the end when there is little money left to grid them. Back fired on Edm, plus they had a change in GM.

 

[AM]

I haven’t followed the to thread
Can someone explain to me why the Oilers would not match these offers?
It’s a bad decision on two relatively cheap contracts. These two were very high drafts picks so the upside is big.
I can’t see any upside to not matching. Included is that it sets up the Oilers as a future target.
I donut buy the “win now” argument. Both Holloway and Bromberg were very good in the playoffs and the experience will benefit them.
Also, Blues are winning with them…now, win now
Id fire whatever smartass was behind this decision

Because there is a salary cap.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Because there is a salary cap.

More like they thought going after a walking bandaid was a good idea.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Oh look Holloway scored again. Could've used that tonight.

 

[oobga]

Broberg a 2nd assist by being around the puck down on his knees in his own zone with no idea what's happening, before a teammate grabs it to go for a 2 on 1.

See that, then our game against Hill. Too funny

 

[Drivesaitl]

Holloway 8 goals

Mcleod 6 goals

Foegele 6 goals.

Thats 20 goals.

We got shutout for the 4th time this season.

These players would be 3rd, 4th and 5th in Oilers scoring behind only you know who. But I was told these were nothing players we wouldn't miss. Perhaps odder is Foegele and McLeod are on similar paces to last season . Holloway was also trending to be a 20something goal scorer. Could be 30.

Holloway just turned 23 and he's set to hit 25G 50pt benchmarks. He's already a topsix player. Only getting better.


Meanwhile our whole forward complement outside of McD and Drai have a paltry 27 goals. ALL of them combined. Its beyond absurd what were players were let go and which were acquired/retained.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This offseason was a masterclass in typical Oilers asset management. Three players we drafted and developed turned into picks that will very likely never amount to anything and an okay third pairing defenseman. And the much celebrated prospect we got for McLeod isn't exactly lighting up our AHL team. I'm sure Derek Ryan is a decent guy but he shouldn't be anywhere near this team. And there's just too many forwards not providing enough offense.

Seeing most of the players we moved on from do well on other teams isn't even surprising. This is the Oilers way.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Holloway 8 goals

Mcleod 6 goals

Foegele 6 goals.

Thats 20 goals.

We got shutout for the 4th time this season.

These players would be 3rd, 4th and 5th in Oilers scoring behind only you know who. But I was told these were nothing players we wouldn't miss. Perhaps odder is Foegele and McLeod are on similar paces to last season . Holloway was also trending to be a 20something goal scorer. Could be 30.

Holloway just turned 23 and he's set to hit 25G 50pt benchmarks. He's already a topsix player. Only getting better.


Meanwhile our whole forward complement outside of McD and Drai have a paltry 27 goals. ALL of them combined. Its beyond absurd what were players were let go and which were acquired/retained.

I blame Stu Skinner for our lack of goal scoring

honestly, pretty sad we have to watch others thrive while Jeff Skinner stinks, Advisson predictably can never stay healthy and Hyman crashed back down to Earth

 

[McDNicks17]

It's funny seeing McLeod still get his tires pumped. The guy has 1 goal in his last 8 games. 2 in his last 17 while playing the 4th most minutes on the Sabres.

If only he kept that 40% shooting percentage going.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It's funny seeing McLeod still get his tires pumped. The guy has 1 goal in his last 8 games. 2 in his last 17 while playing the 4th most minutes on the Sabres.

If only he kept that 40% shooting percentage going.

I'd take him over most of the bottom six forwards right now that aren't pissing a drop.

 

[McDNicks17]

I'd take him over most of the bottom six forwards right now that aren't pissing a drop.

I guess we'll just ignore the 27 points from Janmark, Henrique, Brown and Perry in that 17 game span I referenced.

 

[tardigrade81]

Holloway 8 goals

Mcleod 6 goals

Foegele 6 goals.

Thats 20 goals.

We got shutout for the 4th time this season.

These players would be 3rd, 4th and 5th in Oilers scoring behind only you know who. But I was told these were nothing players we wouldn't miss. Perhaps odder is Foegele and McLeod are on similar paces to last season . Holloway was also trending to be a 20something goal scorer. Could be 30.

Holloway just turned 23 and he's set to hit 25G 50pt benchmarks. He's already a topsix player. Only getting better.


Meanwhile our whole forward complement outside of McD and Drai have a paltry 27 goals. ALL of them combined. Its beyond absurd what were players were let go and which were acquired/retained.

Yikes. Didn't realize it was that bad. Definitely could use those guys right about now

Of course being without Kane, Hyman, Arv hurts too. Podkolzin has stepped up though (not last night) and added some scoring depth.

This team is still a powerhouse, but it remains to be seen what the loss of those guys will do to us come playoffs against the top teams.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Holloway 8 goals

Mcleod 6 goals

Foegele 6 goals.

Thats 20 goals.

We got shutout for the 4th time this season.

These players would be 3rd, 4th and 5th in Oilers scoring behind only you know who. But I was told these were nothing players we wouldn't miss. Perhaps odder is Foegele and McLeod are on similar paces to last season . Holloway was also trending to be a 20something goal scorer. Could be 30.

Holloway just turned 23 and he's set to hit 25G 50pt benchmarks. He's already a topsix player. Only getting better.


Meanwhile our whole forward complement outside of McD and Drai have a paltry 27 goals. ALL of them combined. Its beyond absurd what were players were let go and which were acquired/retained.

At least with the McLeod trade we actually got something of value back. Foegele would be an improvement on Arvidsson and Holloway on Skinner.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I guess we'll just ignore the 27 points from Janmark, Henrique, Brown and Perry in that 17 game span I referenced.

How many did they score last night in a key divisional battle?

 

[McDNicks17]

How many did they score last night in a key divisional battle?

Trade McDavid and Draisaitl. They never ever score based on last night's game. Sound logic.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Trade McDavid and Draisaitl. They never ever score based on last night's game. Sound logic.

Right, instead how about we stop giving away assets and keeping crappy players who do precious little? Ryan, Henrique, Cagguila... Connor Brown can't score in a top six role. We once again have some of the worst wingers in the league.

Savoie better pan out because so far the early returns are very middling.

 

[McDNicks17]

Right, instead how about we stop giving away assets and keeping crappy players who do precious little? Ryan, Henrique, Cagguila... Connor Brown can't score in a top six role. We once again have some of the worst wingers in the league.

Savoie better pan out because so far the early returns are very middling.

Weird tangent.

It sounds like you need to take a break from this team haha.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Weird tangent.

It sounds like you need to take a break from this team haha.

Weird tangent? The team is 18th in GF/G more than a quarter of the way through the season. They've been shut out as many times this season as they did all of last season + playoffs. The abysmal asset management of this team has plagued them for years and we're now saddled with a bunch of old, slow forwards who are rarely a threat to produce offensively.

 

[brentashton]

So..if the Oilers do your idea and more or less shame him into getting dealt ANYWHERE and he does. July 1 2025...do you think any of the UFAS we try to sign maybe a little---how can I put it.. less willing to sign with the Oilers?

Jump

I can’t agree with that perspective.The stink would be on the Rangers for forcing the move on their own player.

It already was when Drury floated Trouba’s name with Kreider’s as available players for trade. Oilers would be a welcoming set of arms for a player who has been railroaded out.

To frame your comment another way, a player traded to the Oilers when they didn’t expect to be, is pissed at the Oilers for accepting them in because their old team moved them out? They would have a possible chip on their shoulder but not towards Edmonton in my estimation.

Regardless, my point was that NYC could find a method to move Trouba regardless of his NMC. It’s always possible. That said, I want nothing to do with him. We probably both agree on that I suspect!

Take care.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Broberg a 2nd assist by being around the puck down on his knees in his own zone with no idea what's happening, before a teammate grabs it to go for a 2 on 1.

See that, then our game against Hill. Too funny

The points are gravy. Huge division game on the road and new coach is rolling Broberg out for team second high ice-time at 23:54 with toi on both special team play and ev toi of 21:29. Yup, too funny, organization pays the heavy development cost only to sleep on prioritizing their top young assets come free agency. Lose both for peanuts after prioritizing everything but two homegrown guys that stepped into deep Stanley Cup playoffs for the organization. Completely misread player relationships, growth cap market flush with new money, wait passively with no active negotiations for over a month while jumping to sign Josh Brown, Stetcher and other #7-10 fringe d-men on July 1. Too funny how badly the Oilers management group misread the market and misplaced their priorities for a historic bungle.

 

[AM]

More like they thought going after a walking bandaid was a good idea.

You mean Broberg or Holloway?

The points are gravy. Huge division game on the road and new coach is rolling Broberg out for team second high ice-time at 23:54 with toi on both special team play and ev toi of 21:29. Yup, too funny, organization pays the heavy development cost only to sleep on prioritizing their top young assets come free agency. Lose both for peanuts after prioritizing everything but two homegrown guys that stepped into deep Stanley Cup playoffs for the organization.

I guess you have to expect there to be disconnect with posters on a hockey futures board when it comes to hockey now performance.

 

[Soundwave]

Holloway 8 goals

Mcleod 6 goals

Foegele 6 goals.

Thats 20 goals.

We got shutout for the 4th time this season.

These players would be 3rd, 4th and 5th in Oilers scoring behind only you know who. But I was told these were nothing players we wouldn't miss. Perhaps odder is Foegele and McLeod are on similar paces to last season . Holloway was also trending to be a 20something goal scorer. Could be 30.

Holloway just turned 23 and he's set to hit 25G 50pt benchmarks. He's already a topsix player. Only getting better.


Meanwhile our whole forward complement outside of McD and Drai have a paltry 27 goals. ALL of them combined. Its beyond absurd what were players were let go and which were acquired/retained.

0 chance they'd have those numbers here.

Holloway had 3 goals through 32 games last year here, Foegele had 3 or 4 goals at this point I believe, and McLeod had 2 goals in his first 29 games ... so basically Podkolzin, Perry, and Skinner have the same offense we got from these guys a year ago.

Good for them for scoring in much lower pressure situations with more gravy time (PP time), but that wouldn't be the situation here for any of them I don't think.