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Specifically what made it better at what it does than The Last of US
TV: The Last of Us (HBO)
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Specifically what made it better at what it does than The Last of US
Scomerica
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Why aren't more movies just set in Vancouver rather than pretending to be Seattle where they just CGI in the space needle? I understand why it's filmed in Vancouver but other than Deadpool I can't think of too many movies supposed to be set in Vancouver.moving to Vancouver for season 2
“The Last of Us” season 2 to be filmed in Vancouver: Official | Canada
It's official: sources have confirmed that season two of the HBO series "The Last of Us" will be filmed in Vancouver.dailyhive.com
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easy--People prefer watching a movie about Americans set in America --regardless of where it is filmed
Also, regardless of nationality. Take a Chilean actor and a British actress, force them to use fake accents and film the whole thing up in Canada, and as long as you just pretend that everything's 'merican, we're happy. We're pretty easy to pander to.
Same reason a lot of movies filmed in Toronto pretend to be New York or Chicago. Cheaper to film here but Americans prefer stories set in America
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Finally finished it yesterday, thought it was amazing. Thought Bella was phenomenal in her role and glad she shut all the haters up that were bitching when they casted her.
Gurn
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I'm a late arrival to this thread, so I've a bit of catching up to do:
1- I never played the game.
2- I thought Tess should have been kneeling, while trying to use the lighter. Dropping a lit lighter from a height could just blow out the flame.
3- Completely get that the Mombies would not attack her right away-she was being quiet, and was not moving, so she would be low on the priority list.
4-Ellie is being portrayed extremely well, a good mix of angsty, intelligent, teen age girl, and 'saviour of humanity'.
4-Episode 3 was, to me brilliant, likely the best thing I've seen on t.v.
The amount of care taken with the music, dialogue and set design was excellent.
I admit my 'gaydar' was not working properly, up until just a split second before Frank put his arm on Bill's shoulder, at the piano.
-the changes in Bill were subtle, for the most part, and the way the set was changed with paintings and flowers, a dust free room, and such was great.
During the raider fight, I liked Bill's choice of weapon, a one shot, knock out punch gun, rather than just spraying bullets all over the place, worked for me.
Also, while standing in the middle of the street, he is still mostly invisible to the raiders that had to look through the flames, and their burning comrades in order to try and get a shot at whoever is shooting them from in the darkness.
One could also say Bill was keeping the raiders from shooting at the house he and Frank shared.
Seeing Bill take on the watering and house keeping, because Frank was no longer capable; was Bill showing he understood and supported Frank's definition of love,
Watching Frank get progressively weaker, and Bill taking on more and more was tough; especially as Bill was now having to remind Frank about his medication, and even help him open the pill envelope, sippy cups and all.
I think Frank reached his decision, when he was working on that painting, and couldn't keep his hand steady.
I do wish Bill's letter had recognized that Frank saved him too.
The little things, like their bedroom being moved to the ground floor, the open window causing a draft that sucked the front door closed- excellent.
My biggest regret is that I'm unable to record episodes so will have to wait some time to see this season again.
1- I never played the game.
2- I thought Tess should have been kneeling, while trying to use the lighter. Dropping a lit lighter from a height could just blow out the flame.
3- Completely get that the Mombies would not attack her right away-she was being quiet, and was not moving, so she would be low on the priority list.
4-Ellie is being portrayed extremely well, a good mix of angsty, intelligent, teen age girl, and 'saviour of humanity'.
4-Episode 3 was, to me brilliant, likely the best thing I've seen on t.v.
The amount of care taken with the music, dialogue and set design was excellent.
I admit my 'gaydar' was not working properly, up until just a split second before Frank put his arm on Bill's shoulder, at the piano.
-the changes in Bill were subtle, for the most part, and the way the set was changed with paintings and flowers, a dust free room, and such was great.
During the raider fight, I liked Bill's choice of weapon, a one shot, knock out punch gun, rather than just spraying bullets all over the place, worked for me.
Also, while standing in the middle of the street, he is still mostly invisible to the raiders that had to look through the flames, and their burning comrades in order to try and get a shot at whoever is shooting them from in the darkness.
One could also say Bill was keeping the raiders from shooting at the house he and Frank shared.
Seeing Bill take on the watering and house keeping, because Frank was no longer capable; was Bill showing he understood and supported Frank's definition of love,
Watching Frank get progressively weaker, and Bill taking on more and more was tough; especially as Bill was now having to remind Frank about his medication, and even help him open the pill envelope, sippy cups and all.
I think Frank reached his decision, when he was working on that painting, and couldn't keep his hand steady.
I do wish Bill's letter had recognized that Frank saved him too.
The little things, like their bedroom being moved to the ground floor, the open window causing a draft that sucked the front door closed- excellent.
My biggest regret is that I'm unable to record episodes so will have to wait some time to see this season again.
Gurn
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Episode 4, I did not like the decision to go through Kansas City, but understand that the show needs people in it, so it doesn't just become a giant movie about hiking/driving across a country.
I thought the 'rebel' leader Kathleen was portrayed fairly well, showed enough narcissism to make her choice to focus on vengeance, believable.
I did have trouble with nobody trying to stop her killing the doctor, but oh well.
Henry and Sam were great.
episode 5- shows Joel to be a very, very, good long range shooter. . I disliked that Ellie did not tell Joel about Sam being bitten, also if I was the guy shooting from that last house, I would not be shooting to keep the 4some pinned down; but rather shooting to kill-which is what you should be trying to do any/every time you fire a gun at someone.
Episode 6 -Grahame Green is a freaking incredible actor, and the lady that played his wife(Northern Exposure actress?) was also great.
I'd watch a series based on those two.
The dialogue between Joel and Tommy, as Joel asks Tommy to continue on with Ellie was very good. The pain Joel was going through, recognizing his limitations -very well done.
Episode 7 watching Ellie trying to stitch up Joel's wound; ewwwww- but she got it done. Also Ellie must be a strong gal, as she managed to get Joel away from the railway tracks, into a suburb and down a flight of stairs.
part 8 - Lot of folks thought 'clicker noise', guess they never heard deer rubbing and bashing their antlers on trees.
David freaked me out, but it was the type of 'oh crap' that built up bit by bit.- I like to think that if I was part of that group I'd be strong and smart enough to leave the crazies behind; but mindwashing can really shackle people.
Joel is one dangerous, dangerous dude; but his recovery was rushed, guess they didn't think they could have an extra episode to have him more 'properly' healed.
episode 9- completely blindsided by Joel's confession about who shot him in the side of his head.
At the hospital, I'd rather have seen him dumped on a bed, and have some young firefly screw up and not search him. Hella more believable to have him say "I do' pull a knife and start swinging; than having him escorted out of town, only to overpower his guards.
As to the mass shooting- I'm on team Joel and Ellie. Nobody is cutting up one of my kin folk because some crackpot doctor thinks he can make a cure.
Fireflies had proven to be unable to maintain multiple bases of operations, seemed like E and J had to go to many extra spots to track down the fireflies.
I would not trust that they could do what they said, and the bit about "thinks he can make an antidote' would be more than enough.
Heck- no tests, no blood work, nope- just going to cut open the head of the only known immune person on the planet.
I don't know if I'd have shot the doctor-but I would have made him stop walking that scalpel closer to me, so a couple more steps and I definitely would shoot him.
While Ellie had stated she wanted to find the fireflies "no matter what" no way should anyone assume she would be willing to die.
She needed to be asked- and she needed to be asked at least 2-3 years after the trauma experienced at David's hands.
Victims/people that have been abused are not going to be in their 'right' mind for awhile; no life and death decisions till after they are rational again.
Hoping Joel tells Ellie the truth of what happened, and why, in the next 2 episodes at latest.
Going to be a long wait for season 2.
I thought the 'rebel' leader Kathleen was portrayed fairly well, showed enough narcissism to make her choice to focus on vengeance, believable.
I did have trouble with nobody trying to stop her killing the doctor, but oh well.
Henry and Sam were great.
episode 5- shows Joel to be a very, very, good long range shooter. . I disliked that Ellie did not tell Joel about Sam being bitten, also if I was the guy shooting from that last house, I would not be shooting to keep the 4some pinned down; but rather shooting to kill-which is what you should be trying to do any/every time you fire a gun at someone.
Episode 6 -Grahame Green is a freaking incredible actor, and the lady that played his wife(Northern Exposure actress?) was also great.
I'd watch a series based on those two.
The dialogue between Joel and Tommy, as Joel asks Tommy to continue on with Ellie was very good. The pain Joel was going through, recognizing his limitations -very well done.
Episode 7 watching Ellie trying to stitch up Joel's wound; ewwwww- but she got it done. Also Ellie must be a strong gal, as she managed to get Joel away from the railway tracks, into a suburb and down a flight of stairs.
part 8 - Lot of folks thought 'clicker noise', guess they never heard deer rubbing and bashing their antlers on trees.
David freaked me out, but it was the type of 'oh crap' that built up bit by bit.- I like to think that if I was part of that group I'd be strong and smart enough to leave the crazies behind; but mindwashing can really shackle people.
Joel is one dangerous, dangerous dude; but his recovery was rushed, guess they didn't think they could have an extra episode to have him more 'properly' healed.
episode 9- completely blindsided by Joel's confession about who shot him in the side of his head.
At the hospital, I'd rather have seen him dumped on a bed, and have some young firefly screw up and not search him. Hella more believable to have him say "I do' pull a knife and start swinging; than having him escorted out of town, only to overpower his guards.
As to the mass shooting- I'm on team Joel and Ellie. Nobody is cutting up one of my kin folk because some crackpot doctor thinks he can make a cure.
Fireflies had proven to be unable to maintain multiple bases of operations, seemed like E and J had to go to many extra spots to track down the fireflies.
I would not trust that they could do what they said, and the bit about "thinks he can make an antidote' would be more than enough.
Heck- no tests, no blood work, nope- just going to cut open the head of the only known immune person on the planet.
I don't know if I'd have shot the doctor-but I would have made him stop walking that scalpel closer to me, so a couple more steps and I definitely would shoot him.
While Ellie had stated she wanted to find the fireflies "no matter what" no way should anyone assume she would be willing to die.
She needed to be asked- and she needed to be asked at least 2-3 years after the trauma experienced at David's hands.
Victims/people that have been abused are not going to be in their 'right' mind for awhile; no life and death decisions till after they are rational again.
Hoping Joel tells Ellie the truth of what happened, and why, in the next 2 episodes at latest.
Going to be a long wait for season 2.
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Ok, just binged that through the weekend while recovering from a (very minor) surgery, and just went through this mess of a thread where throwing around "media literacy!" is an ending argument and where we even have reading suggestions to prove once and for all that flashbacks are a weak narrative apparatus. I'll try to watch what I say!
Weirdly, my favorite and least favorite moments weren't discussed at all. I thought the 1968 opening of the series was absolutely brilliant. Just subtle enough allusion to the zombie world of Romero to let me believe that this would avoid the traps of pure repetition and mindless borrowings. I was pumped, but it got very quickly obvious that this was not the case and that the show had peaked (to me) in its opening minutes. After that, the only sequence that really felt genuine and original was the Indonesia segment. The rest of the show was a mix and match of different other sources, with no intertextual value or significant return (the super zombie, cousin of some Resident Evil creature, was the worst). That being said, I still thought it was entertaining, just pretty meh, especially considering the fuss around it.
Lots of people complained about stuff not being realistic or not advancing the story, but I didn't really mind any of that (I thought episode 3 was pretty good, just thought it weird to include a bottle episode about two side characters in such a short show - I guess splicing it through the first four episodes didn't work as well in tone). The only moment where the story felt really awkward to me was when Ellie and Joel are leaving Tommy-ville. Why exactly didn't Tommy go with them? He was packed and ready to go, Joel had already convinced him that the trip was important enough to maybe save the world for his child to be (which felt in-line with important themes), and told him he didn't feel confident he could make it. I'm not one to complain about story elements, but this just seemed like the dumbest justification for making it harder for the other two.
I haven't played the game, so the closest thing I can compare this show to is The Walking Dead - and I know, the 11 seasons were very unequal, with some lows that were abysmal, but I thought TWD peaked higher on all thematic elements (family bonds, parental surrogates, moral dilemmas, man is the real monster, etc.). The absence of possible narrative closure to TWD was IMO part of its force, season one ended with the flushing of their last hope (with the CDC scientist blowing his lab after telling Rick that everybody is infected - something we might have learned only later): it's an post-apocalypse show, with no hope or end in sight (and it works with its slow and never-ending structure). On the other end, I thought the super banal encompassing narrative of The Last of Us (get the walking cure to the doctors - Ellie is basically Murphy from Z Nation) was weakening the whole purpose of the show. Of course, on production value alone TLOU blows TWD to pieces, and it doesn't suffer (yet) from unequal levels of acting and writing like TWD does - but that's forgetting that TWD was first a character piece, which is Darabont's (pretty much only) force. The first two seasons were very good at that (Darabont left after season 1, but his characters were strong enough to live through season 2).
All in all, I'd give the show 5/10, which is pretty much what I'd give TWD too, considering its highs and lows.
Weirdly, my favorite and least favorite moments weren't discussed at all. I thought the 1968 opening of the series was absolutely brilliant. Just subtle enough allusion to the zombie world of Romero to let me believe that this would avoid the traps of pure repetition and mindless borrowings. I was pumped, but it got very quickly obvious that this was not the case and that the show had peaked (to me) in its opening minutes. After that, the only sequence that really felt genuine and original was the Indonesia segment. The rest of the show was a mix and match of different other sources, with no intertextual value or significant return (the super zombie, cousin of some Resident Evil creature, was the worst). That being said, I still thought it was entertaining, just pretty meh, especially considering the fuss around it.
Lots of people complained about stuff not being realistic or not advancing the story, but I didn't really mind any of that (I thought episode 3 was pretty good, just thought it weird to include a bottle episode about two side characters in such a short show - I guess splicing it through the first four episodes didn't work as well in tone). The only moment where the story felt really awkward to me was when Ellie and Joel are leaving Tommy-ville. Why exactly didn't Tommy go with them? He was packed and ready to go, Joel had already convinced him that the trip was important enough to maybe save the world for his child to be (which felt in-line with important themes), and told him he didn't feel confident he could make it. I'm not one to complain about story elements, but this just seemed like the dumbest justification for making it harder for the other two.
I haven't played the game, so the closest thing I can compare this show to is The Walking Dead - and I know, the 11 seasons were very unequal, with some lows that were abysmal, but I thought TWD peaked higher on all thematic elements (family bonds, parental surrogates, moral dilemmas, man is the real monster, etc.). The absence of possible narrative closure to TWD was IMO part of its force, season one ended with the flushing of their last hope (with the CDC scientist blowing his lab after telling Rick that everybody is infected - something we might have learned only later): it's an post-apocalypse show, with no hope or end in sight (and it works with its slow and never-ending structure). On the other end, I thought the super banal encompassing narrative of The Last of Us (get the walking cure to the doctors - Ellie is basically Murphy from Z Nation) was weakening the whole purpose of the show. Of course, on production value alone TLOU blows TWD to pieces, and it doesn't suffer (yet) from unequal levels of acting and writing like TWD does - but that's forgetting that TWD was first a character piece, which is Darabont's (pretty much only) force. The first two seasons were very good at that (Darabont left after season 1, but his characters were strong enough to live through season 2).
All in all, I'd give the show 5/10, which is pretty much what I'd give TWD too, considering its highs and lows.
Gurn
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Add in:
In episode 9 Marleen talks to Joel in the parking lot, and say Ellie can still be ripped apart by the infected- if so -------what was the point of the vaccine anyway?
Like congrats world- you won't turn into a shroomie, but they will still kill you- if the vaccinne can even be created.
Even more reason to do what Joel did.
In episode 9 Marleen talks to Joel in the parking lot, and say Ellie can still be ripped apart by the infected- if so -------what was the point of the vaccine anyway?
Like congrats world- you won't turn into a shroomie, but they will still kill you- if the vaccinne can even be created.
Even more reason to do what Joel did.
Mr Fahrenheit
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Right off the f***ing bat: Tess, Sam and Henry would be alive. Seems pretty pointless, right?
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Not to mention a fully immunized human population would deny the infected of more bodies to spread to, eventually leading to the infection subsiding.
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My exact thoughts. My jaw was on the floor for the first half of episode 1. Terrifying stuff. The Indonesia opening was great as well but they quickly abandoned all of that momentum in favor of a very slow, character-driven, meandering through a post-apocalyptic world.
I also didn't play the games so maybe there's a lot i'm missing. My wife and i watched every episode and spent a lot of the series being bored and waiting for something interesting to happen. No one needs 35 minutes of two teenagers in an arcade. Pedro and Bella did a great job in their roles however.
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Finally got around to watching this a couple weeks ago and thought it was great. I've been slowly reading through this thread and can't believe the amount of ridiculous posts in it. We got one guy who gets mad if they change anything from the game and thinks things like Joel shooting zombies while hanging upside down and the appearance of a bloater are key moments they need to show. Another guy who doesn't want to have to pay full attention to the show but complains about it anyhow and another who refuses to accept that love is the main theme despite the creator of the game/show saying it is. Gotta love the internet.
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'The Last of Us' Season 2 Sets Filming Start Date
The Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey-led series will return to production next year.
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looking forward to everyone losing their mind again. cant see Druckmann going in another direction with this one.
hope we see more infected in season 2 as well. even if its just them sneaking past them
We just finished watching Dopesick and she was really good in that. I'm confident she'll do a good job.
But the neckbeards have their pitchforks ready no matter what.
But the neckbeards have their pitchforks ready no matter what.
I'm confident she will do a decent job, I'm just familiar with the source material, I know what happens and I hope she's ready for the shit storm.
Because the shit storm IS coming
I've been a huge fan of Kaitlyns since Unbelievable, and she was great in Dopesick.
Honestly very excited for this casting, along with Bella I really think they've got two great young talents for these roles.
Honestly very excited for this casting, along with Bella I really think they've got two great young talents for these roles.
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I'm a fan. Thought she was good in Justified and really good in Unbelievable. I'm surprised to hear people don't like her.
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