irishlaxburger2
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Across an entire season? Yes, especially considering the Rangers PP.
That post was replying to a season pace stat.
Edit - I also said 25, not 31. Where did you get 31 from?
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The jury is officially in: Alexis Lafreniere is a complete bust
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That post was replying to a season pace stat.
Edit - I also said 25, not 31. Where did you get 31 from?
Wierzbowski426
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lol. He's still a replacement level player.
He's not doing anything different than half the players in the nhl would be doing playing with Panarin.
He's not doing anything different than half the players in the nhl would be doing playing with Panarin.
irishlaxburger2
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It may not be #1 overall pick worthy, but it’s not replacement level either. It’s pretty easy to claim he’s become a very solid player with continued question marks about his ceiling.
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Okay - this alleged ‘jury’, where are they?
Shouldn’t it be ‘the verdict is in’?
11-15-26 in 46 isn’t blowing anyone away but his numbers have been rising every year, I think the jury is still…out.
Shouldn’t it be ‘the verdict is in’?
11-15-26 in 46 isn’t blowing anyone away but his numbers have been rising every year, I think the jury is still…out.
LionsHeart
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He’s a good Top 6 winger at this point. Hasn’t lived up to his billing, but is still a really good player.
LionsHeart
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Yeah, he’s a good player. I’m not saying he’s setting the world on fire, just that he’s a fine Top 6 winger.
He's not really good. More like an average winger skating on a strong second line with a top 5 player in the NHL on it.
LionsHeart
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That’s putting it nicely. This talk of him turning into ppg player lol- not gonna happen.
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The Crypto Guy
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It's pretty clear. I'm sorry if you didn't understand it.
The list is stupid as hell because "No" is supposed to imply that they are projected to be in the range of that other player, but not necessarily better.
The dispute comes due to the fact that the list is very generous in projecting Lafreniere, and lumps a lot of picks like RNH and Yakupov into the same category - a category whereby the range captures non-NHLers all the way to 100 point players.
It's a meaningless assessement; it just tells me that the creator of the table feels that Lafreniere won't be a superstar, based on vibes.
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Rather than trolling you, I will explain the "Better - Yes or No?" table... It basically says that if Lafreniere was better than he is now (consistently Point/game), then he would be better than these other players.
Which is funny because, "if Player X was better, then he would be better" is just a weird and silly statement to try to make.
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There's no way I would take a ppg complimentary winger over a 70-80 point Selke caliber center, especially when said winger is so poor defensively.
Tavares is also way ahead of a hypothetical PPG Lafreniere.
irishlaxburger2
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Again, he’s progressing. If this is him as a finished product, he’s not a bust but he’s certainly a disappointment for a #1 overall. But he’s also still just turned 22, so suggesting he’s a finished product right now is likely shortsighted as well.
Believe it or not, we’re going to have to wait and see.
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he has played 260 games already...chances are he is pretty close to "he is what he is" at this point.
I am not implying he is a bad player, but yeah.
I mean his position is what it is. His position was known when he was the unanimous 1 prospect in his draft. And he's a complimentary winger now because he plays with Panarin and he's not a PPG player yet. Most likely as a PPG player he won't be. Also, his shot sucks but he's not a passenger on his line despite not being the driver.
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The rangers powerplay would be less good if he was on PP1 because he is not a good powerplay player.
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He’s never been on PP1 so how do you know that? Do you have the lotto numbers for next week too?
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And somehow a -10
Why do you think he’s not on PP1? He’s played 236.7 minutes of powerplay time in his nhl career. Why would I need to pick lotto numbers as opposed to real data?
three are so many examples of players improving until they are much older and much further along in their careers than 22 and 260 games. Mackinnon, Zibanejad, Couturier, Schiefele, Stone, Reinhart to name a few
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