The jury is officially in: Alexis Lafreniere is a complete bust

[Peltz]

Glad he’s looking better, though I do wish I saw fans from other teams coming in and saying how he looks great. It’s just Ranger fans lol

Rangers are at the top of the league and Laf's play is a huge reason why. Let them doubt.

Doubt is good right now.

 

[DialUp]

Glad he’s looking better, though I do wish I saw fans from other teams coming in and saying how he looks great. It’s just Ranger fans lol

You wouldn't get that if the Rangers had McDavid.

 

[DanielBrassard]

It would be foolish to say that Laf hasn't been much improved this season, and ironically his point totals are probably less indicative of his play which was the opposite his first few years where it seemed like he underperformed his point totals. This is coming from one of his biggest critics as a Ranger fan.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Glad he’s looking better, though I do wish I saw fans from other teams coming in and saying how he looks great. It’s just Ranger fans lol

That wont happen because 95% of fans only watch their teams games. So they only see him a few times a year.

 

[Cuckoo4Kakko]

Glad he’s looking better, though I do wish I saw fans from other teams coming in and saying how he looks great. It’s just Ranger fans lol

Hahaha. Who cares what other fans think about anything?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

A bust is someone who can't even stay in the NHL. He will always be in the NHL until he is like 32-34. He will be a 2-3rd line guy. He will most likely put up one season of like 28g-35a. But will mostly be a 15-20g, 20a guy which you need.

He was that last season. 39 points last season.

Do you not think he'll get better?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

We need @Machinehead to deliver the verdict. Biggest Laf critic that existed in recent years. What say you?

 

[robertocarlos]

Are there 31 teams that didn't offer a 2nd or a 3rd for Laf? Laf was there for the taking. I think.

 

[Machinehead]

We need @Machinehead to deliver the verdict. Biggest Laf critic that existed in recent years. What say you?

He looks good and he should have more points than he does. I think the shoulda, woulda, coulda narrative around him prior to this year has mostly been cope.

He finally gets a chance after two games and he hits the crossbar, I get that, but we shouldn't be waiting that long.

This year, he's legitimately getting a handful of looks a game.

 

[GAGLine]

Are there 31 teams that didn't offer a 2nd or a 3rd for Laf? Laf was there for the taking. I think.

Yeah, no. There's no chance the Rangers would have traded him for a 2nd or 3rd. A team could have tried to offer sheet him at 2nd round comp, but no GM has the balls to try that with the Rangers.

 

[GG96]

All power play minutes are not the same. The last 35 seconds when the puck is being chased behind the NYR net is a lot different than set up zone time.

It’s like I know this game and team or something.

And if on cue, Laf appears with 45 seconds left on the Rangers first power play of the game with the puck in the Rangers zone. And that is now 275 of his 300 minutes have gone.

 

[castle]

Bust is a bit strong. Maybe you could make an argument that relative to draft position he's a disappointment, less than the hype, should be better, etc. Not sure anyone would argue with that. A bust would be someone looking at a short career amd bouncing from the league. A complete bust? Maybe even worse than that. The most recent 1OA I'd call a true bust is yakupov. Others might be underachievers or disappointments.

 

[Windy River]

You mean the last 3 years when he was playing top six minutes alongside Filip Chytil? smh.

Just stop, man. You have zero credibility since that "Laf has spent 83% of his first three years on 1st/2nd line" nonsense you insisted on a few pages ago. Everything you're saying is making it worse

Afraid you’re just gonna have to get over it. How many games has Laf not had on 1st/2nd line this year? 2 maybe?? And still just.. not even OK output..

The guy does NOT look good. How he passes anyones eyetest is mind-boggling. Please.. take a moment to watch a few of his shifts. He’s consistently whiffing nearly every time he gets the puck, he’s getting loads of top line play and barely clinging to a 40-pt pace alongside one of the greatest playmakers in the game today. He’s putting up 0 or negative +/- stats even on blowout wins, basically holding Artemi back. -3 today (and Artemi gets an A as soon as he gets some PP time away from being anchored by Laf), and 0 in the 7 goal blowout they had a couple days ago.

The amount of cope here is insane. ‘Staying in the NHL’ is the new bar for a 1-OA to not be considered a bust

 

[SquidNasty]

This dude is having the most fraudulent breakout season in NHL history. 49 point pace while shooting an unsustainable 20% yet he's "finally arrived"

 

[PainForShane]

Afraid you’re just gonna have to get over it. How many games has Laf not had on 1st/2nd line this year? 2 maybe?? And still just.. not even OK output..

The guy does NOT look good. How he passes anyones eyetest is mind-boggling. Please.. take a moment to watch a few of his shifts. He’s consistently whiffing nearly every time he gets the puck, he’s getting loads of top line play and barely clinging to a 40-pt pace alongside one of the greatest playmakers in the game today. He’s putting up 0 or negative +/- stats even on blowout wins, basically holding Artemi back. -3 today (and Artemi gets an A as soon as he gets some PP time away from being anchored by Laf), and 0 in the 7 goal blowout they had a couple days ago.

The amount of cope here is insane. ‘Staying in the NHL’ is the new bar for a 1-OA to not be considered a bust

"Basically holding Artemi back" he says.

After tonight's blowout loss, Breadman is tied for 5th in league scoring and currently on pace for 123 points, over a season that'd be his highest pace ever, including the season he scored 95 points (69 games) and finished 3rd in Hart voting. Laf "basically holding Artemi back" that's a new one.

Also looks like you're intentionally misunderstanding the argument, complete with an attached clown laugh. Literally no one is saying that a career of just staying in the NHL is the new bar for a 1OA to not be considered a bust. No one is saying that, no one is implying that, no one has implied anything even close to that. Too bad understanding words seems as hard for you as understanding a basic TOI chart.

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In the meantime, I'm already over it. Like I said before, you haven't had any credibility since you went out of your way to insist Laf spent 83% of his first three years on the 1st/2nd line and since then you've said things to make it even worse.

Keep talking if you want, the only person you're embarrassing is yourself. You're not the first poster whose posts aren't worth taking seriously and you certainly won't be the last

 

[Artorius Horus T]

1 point in his last 6 games, he is between the ears type of player.
Has a run of goals and points, then nothing for a long time.

His pace was above 60 points, now its 49.

Not saying he won't have breakout season but, he needs a personal sports mental coach

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

You wouldn't get that if the Rangers had McDavid.

why do ppl try to frame themselves as the victim/underdog/persecuted.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

This dude is having the most fraudulent breakout season in NHL history. 49 point pace while shooting an unsustainable 20% yet he's "finally arrived"

this is dumb. it's not "fraudulent". it's just less likely to be sustainable.

it's incredibly dumb to dismiss what he's doing because of the rate to which he does it. a point, is a point. count it and move on

It would be foolish to say that Laf hasn't been much improved this season, and ironically his point totals are probably less indicative of his play which was the opposite his first few years where it seemed like he underperformed his point totals. This is coming from one of his biggest critics as a Ranger fan.

Yea. Who's saying he hasn't ? He looks like he has a much better understanding of his assignment these days. It would not shock me to see him take another step beyond this over this next season and a half.

 

[2014nyr]

a lot of people who know nothing have a concerning obsession/fetish with laf. sometimes it's better to stay silent and thought an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

anyone still clinging to the delusion of laf being a bust or not having a very, very bright future he's only scratching the surface of has absolutely no idea who he is or anything about the sport he plays....or knows it's not true but is desperately seeking affirmation of their delusion from others to help collectively avoid a reality they can't bring themselves to accept.

the amout of real estate laf and jacob trouba own in people's heads is unprecedented, and that's a fantastic sign. they don't hate nobodies.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

a lot of people who know nothing have a concerning obsession/fetish with laf. sometimes it's better to stay silent and thought an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

anyone still clinging to the delusion of laf being a bust or not having a very, very bright future he's only scratching the surface of has absolutely no idea who he is or anything about the sport he plays....or knows it's not true but is desperately seeking affirmation of their delusion from others to help collectively avoid a reality they can't bring themselves to accept.

the amout of real estate laf and jacob trouba own in people's heads is unprecedented, and that's a fantastic sign. they don't hate nobodies.

Trouba is a low end second pair player, Laf is the worst 1OA since Yakupov. Trouba gets hate because he’s dirty, Laf gets hate because it’s funny.

Laf’s breakout: sub 50 point pace playing with a Hart caliber (this season), shooting 20%, barely averaging 2 shots a game. Congrats he’s not *****ing himself in his draft +4 season playing with Panarin!

 

[yeaher]

This dude is having the most fraudulent breakout season in NHL history. 49 point pace while shooting an unsustainable 20% yet he's "finally arrived"

I do find this amusing as an outsider, but have thought he actually looks like a top 2 line player for the first time. If that progresses and he keeps his grit from his lean years I really think he could be the next PLD, the 8-9 million dollar player that will get you 18 or 19 goals a year baby. I kid, but he does look a quality player this year which is the first time I have Said that in his pro career.

 

[BLONG7]

Give this kid some time, not everyone can be Crosby or Bedard right out of the gate..........bust, not even close.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Glad to see he’s somewhat improved even though he’s on a division rival; feels mean spirited to flat out root for a kid to fail. But if he’s not at least cracking 60 points by next year he’s got to up there with Yak. Like it or not the standards are higher for a 1ov and if he’s not cracking 60 by his 4th year he’s a massive disappointment for a 1ov

 

[DialUp]

why do ppl try to frame themselves as the victim/underdog/persecuted.

The schadenfreude is real from non-Ranger fans on this site. Toronto gets the same treatment. It's the main board identity.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

Trouba is a low end second pair player, Laf is the worst 1OA since Yakupov. Trouba gets hate because he’s dirty, Laf gets hate because it’s funny.

Laf’s breakout: sub 50 point pace playing with a Hart caliber (this season), shooting 20%, barely averaging 2 shots a game. Congrats he’s not *****ing himself in his draft +4 season playing with Panarin!

Lmao you just proved the guy’s point. Rent free, choo choo.