Right but that is entirely hypothetical we have no idea how many games he would have gotten in that scenario. I get your point and I didn't take it as an attack, I just think logically speaking he earned his medal.it is no coincidence that it was a 5 game suspension. That's exactly the number of games that were left to play if Canada went all the way. If he had done it in the first game, he probably would have gotten 9 games. But that's beside the point anyway. I am not even talking about this particular case.
Clearly most people completely missed the point here and are taking it as an attack on Veleno or even team Canada, which it is not.
I'd actually say Andersson tossing his medal into the stands wasn't even that bad... Hayton and 'forgetting' to take his helmet off during the anthem comes to mind. He was the captain.lolNo, that would be the Russians’ behaviour after they won the silver medal in Prague. As a general point, the Russian team rarely gets criticized for their consistently arrogant and unpleasant behaviour. The only team I have always been actively cheering against in the 40 years I have been watching every ice hockey match I had access to.. I don’t miss their absence at all (but that’s a whole other topic).
Re: Veleno - I don’t care if he gets a medal or not. At all. I did think though that 5 games seemed like a fairly mild suspension, I am pretty sure that the NHL has punished similar infarctions more harshly in the past.
Yep. Just like all the slashings in the dying minutes of deciding games they were losing.I'm told those were all Rusophobia though and, in fact, Russia never did any of these things. Just a long series of misunderstandings.
Funny, because I was thinking of Ryan Smyth in 2005 (unofficialy best on best in Vienna during NHL lockout) losing his mind on Jiri Fischer and just slashing away like crazy.lol Game was over at that point. And I say this as a big Smyth fan as I'm an Oiler fan.lol I counted 8 slashes and 2 crosschecks.lmaoYep. Just like all the slashings in the dying minutes of deciding games they were losing.
To be fair, he more than likely will never lace them up for team Canada again.He got a 5 game suspension, does OP want him expelled from the Hockey Canada organization?
He shouldn't be dropped from getting a medal, but that act is letting his team down.Veleno didn`t let his team down. Why he should dropped from getting medal?
You're trying way, way, too hard.As I was watching our pal Joe Veleno being presented with a gold medal yesterday, I suddenly realized how weird the situation was. He committed one of the dirtiest fouls that I have ever seen on international ice and he gets rewarded with a gold?
Obviously I wouldn't take away his medal now, it's too late for that, but what if there was a rule to prevent these kinds of uncomfortable situations in the future?
Maybe IIHF should introduce a rule that if a player is deemed to have committed an especially egregious act, whether it be on or off the ice, during the course of a tournament, the player would not only be suspended from playing in the remainder of the games, but also be disqualified from any potential awards, whether they be individual or team awards.
This would only be reserved for special situations like in this case. It wouldn't automatically be applied to all suspensions for illegal hits and such.
Showing some true lumberjack skills.Funny, because I was thinking of Ryan Smyth in 2005 (unofficialy best on best in Vienna during NHL lockout) losing his mind on Jiri Fischer and just slashing away like crazy.lol Game was over at that point. And I say this as a big Smyth fan as I'm an Oiler fan.lol I counted 8 slashes and 2 crosschecks.lmao
I've never had a problem with what Smyth did on that play and still don't, the czech player was aggressively using his stick on his body with the blade straight in at his stomach and even swung high at his head area after that.Funny, because I was thinking of Ryan Smyth in 2005 (unofficialy best on best in Vienna during NHL lockout) losing his mind on Jiri Fischer and just slashing away like crazy.lol Game was over at that point. And I say this as a big Smyth fan as I'm an Oiler fan.lol I counted 8 slashes and 2 crosschecks.lmao
Yes, 2005 was unbelievable, just nuts. Couldn’t cope with the defeat, and he was the captain.Funny, because I was thinking of Ryan Smyth in 2005 (unofficialy best on best in Vienna during NHL lockout) losing his mind on Jiri Fischer and just slashing away like crazy.lol Game was over at that point. And I say this as a big Smyth fan as I'm an Oiler fan.lol I counted 8 slashes and 2 crosschecks.lmao
You probably didn’t have a problem with the Canadian behaviour in 1997 when they went for Vujtek, either. Defending your own team and correctly pointing out issues with other teams is fine. But judging by many of your posts, clearly no Canadian can ever do any wrong whatsoever, except perhaps in very, very limited circumstances like Veleno. Must be nice, supporting a team of such flawless virtue. At least you can rest assured that if anyone here dares criticise anything a Canadian player does, it just MUST be because they [hate Canada] [are jealous of Canada][have some Canadian complex][are trolling] (insert preferred reason that does not relate at all to the actual behaviour of the relevant Canadian player). It can never be that in the eye if the person commenting, the Canadian player did something they did not feel was OK. It can never be that people from other countries might simply genuinely find a certain behaviour unacceptable, even if for Canadians it’s fine (as long as a Canadian does it of course - not sure how you’d all feel if a European player displays the same attitude towards a Canadian one).I've never had a problem with what Smyth did on that play and still don't, the czech player was aggressively using his stick on his body with the blade straight in at his stomach and even swung high at his head area after that.
Play like that................expect the horns, that's how we roll here.
How is committing a dirty foul and weakening the team by drawing a penalty and suspension not letting the team down? As I said elsewhere, I have no problem with him getting a medal either way, but surely he has let his team down. I think that every time a player on the team I support commits an unnecessary foul and weakens the team by drawing a significant penalty.Veleno didn`t let his team down. Why he should dropped from getting medal?
No I don't, here's one scrum between both teams, the czech player went after our player..............what do you expect? us to be lay down sallys?Yes, 2005 was unbelievable, just nuts. Couldn’t cope with the defeat, and he was the captain.
You probably didn’t have a problem with the Canadian behaviour in 1997 when they went for Vujtek, either. Defending your own team and correctly pointing out issues with other teams is fine. But judging by many of your posts, clearly no Canadian can ever do any wrong whatsoever, except perhaps in very, very limited circumstances like Veleno. Must be nice, supporting a team of such flawless virtue. At least you can rest assured that if anyone here dares criticise anything a Canadian player does, it just MUST be because they [hate Canada] [are jealous of Canada][have some Canadian complex][are trolling] (insert preferred reason that does not relate at all to the actual behaviour of the relevant Canadian player). It can never be that in the eye if the person commenting, the Canadian player did something they did not feel was OK. It can never be that people from other countries might simply genuinely find a certain behaviour unacceptable, even if for Canadians it’s fine (as long as a Canadian does it of course - not sure how you’d all feel if a European player displays the same attitude towards a Canadian one).
No I don't, here's one scrum between both teams, the czech player went after our player..............what do you expect? us to be lay down sallys?
You guys learned a long time ago we don't do that.
what about your guys behaviour such as Gretzky pointed out in the 2002 olympics and he was spot on too!! you talk about us as being goons but you engage in the same shit and think we re obliged to just sit and take it with no repercussions but if we do the same thing you cry bloody murder.
We ain't backing down from your crap, you know that. stop acting like you're angels..............you're not. I don't expect you guys to back down from our crap either.
Again, no issue with Smyth for me on that sequence..............Czech player got what he asked for. He engaged our player and was engaged in kind, that is the way it goes.
Hockey is an intense game, it's not ringette.
I never said they were saints but to think they can't be and are never provoked is a fallacy.Yep, got it. Canadian players are saints who only ever do anything when first provoked by some dirty Europeans. They are capable of losing with honour and never start anything themselves, any crap they pull is always completely justified because inevitably, they were provoked by dirty Europeans.
Well we don't lose often so that's that lolYep, got it. Canadian players are saints who only ever do anything when first provoked by some dirty Europeans. They are capable of losing with honour and never start anything themselves, any crap they pull is always completely justified because inevitably, they were provoked by dirty Europeans.
I heard they exiled him to BrnoVeleno should never see another Canada Goose again!
That would not be terrible punishment. Now, if they exiled him to Ostrava on the other hand…I heard they exiled him to Brno