The IIHF Council has decided to withdraw the hosting rights of the 2023 Worlds from Russia

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
It's not an outlandish idea that Poland would be in the elite some day in the near future, they weren't exactly far away from that in 2016. Now that Russia and Belarus are out of contention, there's even more room in the elite.
They used to be able to overtake Italy or Austria. Do you see it happening these days? Yes, there is more room but at the same time, the gap between Poland and the pack contending for elite increased unless Poland starts to import it up. Their goalie situation is getting really bad, without adequate goaltending you can't even contend.
 
Are Finlands rinks in such a bad shape, that apart from the sanctioned Helsinki arena and the Tampere arena, there are non better or at least on par with the Riga arena (built 2004, capacity 10 000 people)? Genuinely interested, since finnish league is one of the best in Europe, although I've heard that the sallaries are not the best.
It's less about the shape and more about the size. As surprising as it may seem for a country that's crazy about hockey, there are only three arenas in all of Finland that can house 10,000 people or more (and the figure used to be two before the new Tampere arena). The third one, located in Turku, was built in 1990. The average rink in Finland draws some 5,000-8,000 spectators, which is fine for your regular Liiga game, but they tend to be a little on the small side for a marquee event like the WHC, especially in a country that's as crazy about hockey as Finland.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Vikz
They used to be able to overtake Italy or Austria. Do you see it happening these days? Yes, there is more room but at the same time, the gap between Poland and the pack contending for elite increased unless Poland starts to import it up. Their goalie situation is getting really bad, without adequate goaltending you can't even contend.
It's not so much about overtaking Italy or Austria, it's about beating them in an individual game which is essentially what the qualification to the elite division comes down to. Just in the last Olympic qualifiers Poland managed to beat both Belarus and Kazakhstan, which many would consider better than Italy and Austria.
 
It's less about the shape and more about the size. As surprising as it may seem for a country that's crazy about hockey, there are only three arenas in all of Finland that can house 10,000 people or more (and the figure used to be two before the new Tampere arena). The third one, located in Turku, was built in 1990. The average rink in Finland draws some 5,000-8,000 spectators, which is fine for your regular Liiga game, but they tend to be a little on the small side for a marquee event like the WHC, especially in a country that's as crazy about hockey as Finland.
It's definitely also a shape issue, many buildings are old and even if they have been renovated the facilities often remain fairly spartan, VIP and media spaces may have been upgraded to be adequate for Liiga but aren't necessarily entirely up to modern major event standards. Some buildings also don't allow a standard-size rink.
 
It's definitely also a shape issue, many buildings are old and even if they have been renovated the facilities often remain fairly spartan, VIP and media spaces may have been upgraded to be adequate for Liiga but aren't necessarily entirely up to modern major event standards. Some buildings also don't allow a standard-size rink.
Without a question some of the arenas in active use have seen better days, but there are still enough barns in good enough condition that size is the more immediate issue. Of course, if push comes to shove, having a secondary venue that only draws 8,000 or so people will do. Regardless, FIHA would likely prefer having the Helsinki Arena at their disposal for this purpose, even while the Tampere one will remain the main venue for the foreseeable future.
 
Tampere has relatively bad international connections, I doubt it can ever completely overtake Helsinki as a location for international events.
 
Tampere has relatively bad international connections, I doubt it can ever completely overtake Helsinki as a location for international events.

You're not wrong but getting from Helsinki airport to Tampere has been a lot easier after they opened the new commuter rail station at the airport in 2015. The train journey from Helsinki airport to Tampere takes less than 100 minutes and here in Tampere it's a five minute walk from the railway station to the hockey arena. You have to change trains in Tikkurila but I've taken that trip at least a dozen times and there's never been any problems.

The average Finn can get to Tampere faster than to Helsinki because we're a lot closer to Finland's center of population.

But obviously Helsinki has superior international connections even though Air Baltic is now offering direct flights from Tampere to many cities in Europe. Tampere might get to host the world championships together with Riga in 2023 but once Helsinki gets a new arena, Nokia Arena will probably never be the main venue for the IIHF Worlds again.
 
There might be some clauses regarding team success which Hungary/Slovenia don't fulfill.
 
Disappointed Prague didn't make a bid. I would have gone to both '23 and the '24 tournament. I'll guess it will just have to be '24.
 
Disappointed Prague didn't make a bid. I would have gone to both '23 and the '24 tournament. I'll guess it will just have to be '24.

Switzerland should have got it but they weren't interested in such a short notice. Czechs '23 and Swiss '24 would have been also good option.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad