Value of: The Huberdeau Dilemma

[Djp]

What dumbass GM is taking 6 years of Huberdeau without knowing if he has chemistry with their players? This guy looks terrible unless he gets linemates that fit him perfectly.

Wasnt the other issue -- game styles in west vs east,,?

Agreed. If Huberdeau returns to 100 points he should be easily moveable if they retain him down to $8m-$9m.

I disagree. His age is factor in this. This is why I wish retention could change by years instead of being a flat amt

 

[John Mandalorian]

This would be the name of a movie if Christopher Nolan was Canadian.

Had a similar thought. But my interpretation was is The Peanut Butter Solution the sequel to The Huberdeau Dilemma.

 

[Backlund]

Wasnt the other issue -- game styles in west vs east,,?

Style of play is definitely a big factor for him but he's had trouble finding centers he can play with his entire career. Florida fans said he was only really good with Barkov and Bennett. Him and Lindholm might be one of the worst center/winger pairs I've seen a team try to force together.

 

[mouser]

I disagree. His age is factor in this. This is why I wish retention could change by years instead of being a flat amt

Far far far far too much room for abuse. (Did I say “far” enough times?)

I think the NHL locking in retention at a fixed % is one of their smarter moves.

 

[Djp]

Far far far far too much room for abuse. (Did I say “far” enough times?)

I think the NHL locking in retention at a fixed % is one of their smarter moves.

It depends on how its defined.

Like with hubrrdeau... you say I dont want anything retained this year but 50% the final year and the years in between is linearly calculated 0%,10%,20%,...,50%. The issue is it cant exceed 50% total retention.

 

[kerrabria]

Style of play is definitely a big factor for him but he's had trouble finding centers he can play with his entire career. Florida fans said he was only really good with Barkov and Bennett. Him and Lindholm might be one of the worst center/winger pairs I've seen a team try to force together.

Huberdeau did not have issues with linemates here. He produced best with Barrkov and Bennett (two radically different centers) but also put up numbers next to Trocheck and briefly Wennberg. His RW changed every season, and Owen Tippett is the only one who jumps to mind as a guy who didn’t gel. Duclair, Dadonov, Hoffman, Vatrano…all fine.

 

[Backlund]

Huberdeau did not have issues with linemates here. He produced best with Barrkov and Bennett (two radically different centers) but also put up numbers next to Trocheck and briefly Wennberg. His RW changed every season, and Owen Tippett is the only one who jumps to mind as a guy who didn’t gel. Duclair, Dadonov, Hoffman, Vatrano…all fine.

I've heard from plenty of Panthers fans that he had trouble with linemates outside of Barkov and Bennett/Duclar line his entire career there. Maybe the style of play made it easier to mask.

 

[Jetcetera]

So basically you want Calgary to be nothing for the next 10 years?

Again, I'm not taking that much dead cap space when I have a chance to win a cup. It's a no brainer imo

 

[Lunatik]

There is no Huberdeau dilema.

He is a Flame and will be for the foreseeable future. The Flames are not retaining to dump him for a paltry return, and teams aren't going to trade for him at his age and salary unless he has an exceptional season and they get him at a bargain (in terms of trade value).

As for the terrible, terrible offer in the OP... Conroy laughs and since it's clearly a f***ing joke of an offer, his response would be... "We Huberdon't accept."

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Calgary would give Huberdeau away and retain 50% and say thank you very much.

Awful take

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It depends on how its defined.

Like with hubrrdeau... you say I dont want anything retained this year but 50% the final year and the years in between is linearly calculated 0%,10%,20%,...,50%. The issue is it cant exceed 50% total retention.

No you are thinking so backwards on this. It's super abusable if you retain a lot early and then less later on. A team entering a rebuild can eat a bunch of cap on retention while they are bottoming out and then the cap is off their books when they need the cap space. Vise versa, the buying team would get the star when they are still in their prime at 50% when they are pushing for a cup, and then take on the full cap hit when they start rebuilding

 

[lanceuppercut75]

If I'm Calgary, I'd rather take a contract like Jarry, Merzlikins, Grubauer, Kuemper, Graves, Copp, Engvall, Ristolainen, Krug, Vlasic or maybe even Nurse, with no retention, as opposed to retaining on Huberdeau.

No matter how bad the contract, or 2 bad contracts, eat it / them at 0% retention but also retain 0% on Huberdeau.