GBU The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Weekend at Andy's

[Bendium]

Man i don't know. It's hard to believe that the kids just threw in the towel or everyone hit a wall.

Is it possible that Donny actually tried implementing a defensive structure at this point in the season? That would explain why guys are completely unaware of who and what is going on in their own zone and furthermore stifling the offensive rush.

And of course there's goaltending. It's been horrific. More tonight as it probably lost the game but generally I don't put all of the weight on goalies. Although good goaltending can shift momentum or at least I read that somewhere.

Its is possible, but I hope not. I mean, by the time you hit the allstar break the team systems should be hitting a groove, not being changed and taught. Most lines should be fairly set and the team is working on dialing it in.

In my mind, if coaching panicked after a couple losses and started changing lines and installing new things into the system at this time of year, then that is a coaching mistake, and shows how much that staff needs to be worked on as much as the player makeup.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

I mean this is kinda where I wanted them at the beginning of the season but please don't end the season giving up more touchdowns..



Also I swear to god when we are mathematically and then the team starts playing better I am going to flip out!

When that happens, there are going to be a bunch of top players going on IR. Clearly, Tage/Tuch/Dahls are playing through injuries.

And I don't know why Andy is getting all of the hate. He's not turning the puck over (and over and over) in the neutral zone.

 

[Jim Bob]

When that happens, there are going to be a bunch of top players going on IR. Clearly, Tage/Tuch/Dahls are playing through injuries.

And I don't know why Andy is getting all of the hate. He's not turning the puck over (and over and over) in the neutral zone.

He gave up 6 goals on roughly 2 xGA last night.

He is not playing well right now.

 

[Buff15Sabres]

Watched on DVR after my training class. Allowed me to fast-forward through commercials, intermission, etc., which was analogous to skipping the footage of the many trans-Atlantic crossings of the Hindenburg before watching the final mooring at Lakehurst, NJ.

GA#1 - somewhat of a knuckle-puck. 2-on-1 vs. #26 #10. Dahlin plays the pass, then the shooter because Joker coming back, then plays the pass because Joker is in an extra-solar comet orbit beyond Pluto. More on Joker below. Should Anderson have saved it? IDK.

GA#2 - Seemed like a deflected pass to me, bang-bang, back of net.

GA#3,#4 both result from Jokiharu pinches - not debatable. He shouldn't be pinching even if he communicated to the forward to cover the point, because the coverage wasn't happening adequately. GA#4 Joker and Clague. (Then, with ~8min remaining in the 3rd period, Joker pinches again but this time wasn't burned.)

[The no-goal looked offside to me as the play was live, and I said that to my wife well before the puck was in the net - I didn't need a replay and was surprised it wasn't called offside on the ice.]

GA#5 Stillman lost his man. And, speaking of Stillman, unlike Joker, when Stillman pinched he carried the puck down the sideboards through the corner, and behind the net, as opposed to nudging a 50/50 puck at the halfwall to no one in particular on his team, with NSH then having an easy transition in a quick up-ice pass.

GA#6 - quick shot, maybe a 50/50 chance for Anderson.

Krebs and Skinner has a couple chances (besides Skinner's goal). Cozens again showing everyone on BUF that good things happen when you go to the net.

UPL gave up a couple big rebounds once in the game, but at that point NSH didn't need more goals.

Thompson took a lazy penalty. And, next time you grapple someone, open up your stance to lower your center of gravity. You could have been hurt badly from the fall, and wouldn't have fallen so easily if your skates weren't so close together.

Okposo's skating looked labored (more so than usual). Dahlin's did too, but I know he logged a lot of minutes.

NSH has a few no-names who are likely in the NHL to stay. They had good burst on their skates and turned transition as a unit (forwards), with tight spacing and even separation most of the time. Lot better than BUF's disjointed transitions / attack through neutral zone, IMO.

I'm fine with trading Joker. If he's kept for next season, please be no higher than 6th on the depth chart unless he has off-season brain replacement surgery to fix the lingering "injury" he must be dealing with.

For all the complaints about Anderson I didn't think he let in a softie (other than the disallowed goal). Certainly he had a chance on some of the goals, but none that I can look at and say he really should have saved it.

I lost track of how many odd man rushes Jokiharju was responsible for.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

He gave up 6 goals on roughly 2 xGA last night.

He is not playing well right now.

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Looking at last night's game specifically, the Preds owned us until the score got out of hand. The xGA for the first period was 1.27, so if the Preds kept their foot on the gas it was closer to 4.

Nashville also had way more high-danger chances. Sabres took a lot of shots from the perimeter.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

G-I missed this game because I was still traveling back home with my wife.
-My wife is pregnant and we decided to do a 2 day get away together.
-Despite the fact I don't really care for him my wife was beyond excited to see John Mayer at Scotia Bank
-Haven't been to Toronto since I was like 11. Didn't know what to expect. Got to our hotel one block from the arena, got immediately upgraded to a lake front 36th floor view which was amazing. We walked for about 3 mins and were at the venue. How Toronto manages 2 major arenas, and the CN tower and train stations etc all in like a block is so amazing to me.
-The area was so clean and awesome my wife asked if we could move here. We ate at some awesome places, hit the CN tower, and aquarium amongst other things. we loved it despite the fact I told her I'd never ever ever love anything Toronto.
-Aquarium and CN Tower visits were so worth it.

B-John Mayer played for like 3 hours and I knew and liked about 2 songs
-My wife bless her heart doesnt know how to order tickets online and we legit sat in the very very top row of Scotia bank. I think I might have vertigo.
-Seats were so high and it was so crowded I didn't even want a beer so I got a vitamin water that was 9 dollars lol

U- we actually ventured off the main strip and it was a complete shit show and my wife asked to never go back or drive there again (mind you this is a monday and tuesday visit). I've never seen such a polarizing city. What an experience to live it up for a day or two then see the other side of the city and how scummy it can be. Parking and driving are horrendous. Like Buffalo is pretty even keel blue collar, we went from expensive meals and hotel suites to fighting off bums trying to get to collectives arts brewing for a drink. So polarizing. Maybe I'm a novice.

UU- why is every highway in the area 401, 402, 405, 410, 420, 44southpole....? At least in Rochester we change the first number lol. Fvck that got confusing because they all just seem to circle eachother anyways.

UU2- Sabres sucked this game. Badly. Just watched it.

Go in the summer, and you can go outside and walk on top of the CN Tower.

Also, across from the aquarium is the Steam Whistle Brewery, and they do tours. Plus they have a bunch of old trains.

EDIT: 4xx is because it’s a provincial major highway. Outside of Ottawa they also start with 4, up until you hit the Trans Canada Highway. Then it becomes TCT 17. Smaller roads don’t have a 4 designation.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I think the Sabres will win 2-3 more games, tops, with the remaining schedule.

 

[Matt Ress]

Its is possible, but I hope not. I mean, by the time you hit the allstar break the team systems should be hitting a groove, not being changed and taught. Most lines should be fairly set and the team is working on dialing it in.

In my mind, if coaching panicked after a couple losses and started changing lines and installing new things into the system at this time of year, then that is a coaching mistake, and shows how much that staff needs to be worked on as much as the player makeup.

Agreed. I'm not saying that's what happened but the breakdowns, several in the same way in each game, tell me that perhaps guys don't know where to be or that other teams have found a big gaping hole.

Our forwards don't collapse much and are slow to pick up a net attacking perimeter player when the puck is down low. The forwards keep their eyes on the net while their guy sneaks in behind them into the tight slot. It's what allowed the Sabres to break out so well if the defense could retrieve the puck but when the other team sustains possession, they have an easy time getting the puck to the slot. And the goalies are somehow not aware of this phenomenon and getting beat pretty regularly.

 

[Chainshot]

Man i don't know. It's hard to believe that the kids just threw in the towel or everyone hit a wall.

Is it possible that Donny actually tried implementing a defensive structure at this point in the season? That would explain why guys are completely unaware of who and what is going on in their own zone and furthermore stifling the offensive rush.

And of course there's goaltending. It's been horrific. More tonight as it probably lost the game but generally I don't put all of the weight on goalies. Although good goaltending can shift momentum or at least I read that somewhere.

It's unlikely that they are trying implementation of anything with their limited practice schedule. The practice time has been in short supply since January and they look really ragged out there when they don't practice vs. just somewhat ragged when they do.

 

[DJN21]

Go in the summer, and you can go outside and walk on top of the CN Tower.

Also, across from the aquarium is the Steam Whistle Brewery, and they do tours. Plus they have a bunch of old trains.

EDIT: 4xx is because it’s a provincial major highway. Outside of Ottawa they also start with 4, up until you hit the Trans Canada Highway. Then it becomes TCT 17. Smaller roads don’t have a 4 designation.

We checked out steam whistle actually! and also collective arts which was sadly disappointing but the bartender told us they stopped brewing there and are using their primary Hamilton location as their focus.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Nah, NY doesn't even care about hockey, remember?

On a per-capita basis, it's true -- they don't care. They don't care at all compared to Buffalo and most big markets.

They might sell out every game but that's because the arena is the same size everywhere, and there's more people in the NYC area than anywhere else in the states or Canada.

Hopefully Levi took everything Anderson told him with a grain of salt after watching that nonsense.

"I'm supposed to be mentored by this f***ing guy?"

 

[Bendium]

It's unlikely that they are trying implementation of anything with their limited practice schedule. The practice time has been in short supply since January and they look really ragged out there when they don't practice vs. just somewhat ragged when they do.

Just taking a moment to emphisize that the NHL is the pinicle professional hockey league in the world. It is NOT a development league.

It is my strong opinion that the Sabres continue to advance prospects to quickly. Keeping players in the AHL where they get alot more practice and development time is very important. They shouldn't be in the NHL until they have more polished Pro games and their bodies are ready to compete. 19-20 year olds should rarely be playing any games in the NHL....and yet we make it the norm. Thats the wrong kind of impatience.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

It's unlikely that they are trying implementation of anything with their limited practice schedule. The practice time has been in short supply since January and they look really ragged out there when they don't practice vs. just somewhat ragged when they do.

It's interesting that the reduced amount of practice has mostly coincided with when we started to see their play deteriorate. Around the end of January their play started falling off. They had an ok stretch in there around the Florida trip but were otherwise being outplayed a lot.

Young players falling back into bad habits when it's not being beaten into them in practice.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

We checked out steam whistle actually! and also collective arts which was sadly disappointing but the bartender told us they stopped brewing there and are using their primary Hamilton location as their focus.

Lunch Money by collective arts is so good. It’s like a light shandy and is amazing ice cold on a hot day. And I like their Jam Up the Mash sour beer, but I can only drink one before I get heartburn.

I always try what I can get of their stuff when I see it. The worst was the one made with rose water and Himalayan salt though. It was the only beer I’ve ever dumped out while sober.

 

[DJN21]

Lunch Money by collective arts is so good. It’s like a light shandy and is amazing ice cold on a hot day. And I like their Jam Up the Mash sour beer, but I can only drink one before I get heartburn.

I always try what I can get of their stuff when I see it. The worst was the one made with rose water and Himalayan salt though. It was the only beer I’ve ever dumped out while sober.

hahaha I did a flight and a pint. In the flight I tried a mojito sour that straight up tasted like lime juice or a kamikaze I was perplexed. But they have some good sours and IPA's.

They had a raspberry peach bellini sour that was amazing.

 

[Chainshot]

hahaha I did a flight and a pint. In the flight I tried a mojito sour that straight up tasted like lime juice or a kamikaze I was perplexed. But they have some good sours and IPA's.

They had a raspberry peach bellini sour that was amazing.

That all sounds intriguing to try.

 

[DJN21]

That all sounds intriguing to try.

I love sours and Ipas, nothing else really gets my interest. Smoked porters are cool on a cold winter Ny night though too.

 

[Chainshot]

I love sours and Ipas, nothing else really gets my interest. Smoked porters are cool on a cold winter Ny night though too.

There are two different local places that have done smoked porters as limited runs and they are among my favorite all time beverages. Sadly, neither is in regular production.

 

[Matt Ress]

It's unlikely that they are trying implementation of anything with their limited practice schedule. The practice time has been in short supply since January and they look really ragged out there when they don't practice vs. just somewhat ragged when they do.

Just spit balling. I want to think there's a reason they're pooping the bed

 

[Chainshot]

Just spit balling. I want to think there's a reason they're pooping the bed

Poor goaltending, key guys worn out/worn down, and not enough depth all factor into it. System and practice I'm sure do too. Players not playing hockey basics is also driving me nuts, but we're at where we are at.

 

[slip]

I think the Sabres will win 2-3 more games, tops, with the remaining schedule.

That was my thought last night. So basically a 5-7 point improvement over last season. At that rate we should see the playoffs in 2026. Patience!

 

[DJN21]

There are two different local places that have done smoked porters as limited runs and they are among my favorite all time beverages. Sadly, neither is in regular production.

it's kind of a seasonal thing. No one wants to mow the lawn with one lol if you know what I mean. But I love them too.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

Go in the summer, and you can go outside and walk on top of the CN Tower.

Also, across from the aquarium is the Steam Whistle Brewery, and they do tours. Plus they have a bunch of old trains.

EDIT: 4xx is because it’s a provincial major highway. Outside of Ottawa they also start with 4, up until you hit the Trans Canada Highway. Then it becomes TCT 17. Smaller roads don’t have a 4 designation.

The numbering changes by province. For example, the provincial highways in NS are 101, 102, etc.

 

[Bobby Bottle Service]

U- we actually ventured off the main strip and it was a complete shit show and my wife asked to never go back or drive there again (mind you this is a monday and tuesday visit). I've never seen such a polarizing city. What an experience to live it up for a day or two then see the other side of the city and how scummy it can be. Parking and driving are horrendous. Like Buffalo is pretty even keel blue collar, we went from expensive meals and hotel suites to fighting off bums trying to get to collectives arts brewing for a drink. So polarizing. Maybe I'm a novice.

The Dundas/Bathurst area is a relatively safe section, though Kensington Market can be a little sketchy after dark. The west side of the city is generally a little nicer than the east. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with the "nightlife", usually they are pretty passive.

Couldn't agree with the parking/driving situation more. The traffic jams leaving the city at the "end" of the day start around 1:30pm.

 

[DJN21]

The Dundas/Bathurst area is a relatively safe section, though Kensington Market can be a little sketchy after dark. The west side of the city is generally a little nicer than the east. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with the "nightlife", usually they are pretty passive.

Couldn't agree with the parking/driving situation more. The traffic jams leaving the city at the "end" of the day start around 1:30pm.

Was an amazing visit regardless and frankly I'm in awe of the city and it infrastructure etc. It was a cool experience and I didn't mean to shit on the city at all. I'm from Rochester and it'd def no better lol. Was just a cool trip seeing the city and being with my wife. So much to do there I wish I had more time because I'd probably be able to give a better analysis of the city. Cheers man!