The Future of Team Canada: Who Will Replace the Veterans

[ORRFForever]

Wyatt Johnston is a Scot though.

McWright was likely the name centuries ago.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Ravensbergen and Ivankovic are good signs on the goalie front in this years draft....and need Cossa to hit. But goalies are such a roll of the dice it will take years to see if it turns around. Just need one elite one to step forward though, don't need 8 goalies to win!

Don't forget Garand. Has the 4th highest SV% in the AHL (12 points ahead of Cossa and beat him for the WJC net their 19 year old year where they won Gold and was also better than him that year in the WHL).

 

[ORRFForever]

You beat me to it.

I always do!!!

I saw you taking up collection at Midnight Mass, JJ. Well done.

 

[Albatros]

Yeah, but I think he is eligible to play for Canada, like his father. It's mentioned here: Which Side Could Josh Doan Choose?

Never played in Canada, thus not eligible.

 

[crazynaiman]

Never played in Canada, thus not eligible.

Why though? He was born in US, but his father is Canadian, so Josh can have Canadian citizenship by descent if he hasn't already had it.
He has also never played for any national team in IIHF tournaments or other international competitions, at least as far as I could find. So, it's not necessary for him to play or live in Canada to be eligible to play for Team Canada.

To play for Team Canada, it is enough to be a Canadian citizen and not have played for another country after your 18th birthday. According to IIHF rules, if a player has not played for a national team in official IIHF tournaments after turning 18, he can change his affiliation and choose another national team to represent in international competitions.

 

[Albatros]

Why though? He was born in US, but his father is Canadian, so Josh can have Canadian citizenship by descent if he hasn't already had it.
He has also never played for any national team in IIHF tournaments or other international competitions, at least as far as I could find. So, it's not necessary for him to play or live in Canada to be eligible to play for Team Canada.

To play for Team Canada, it is enough to be a Canadian citizen and not have played for another country after your 18th birthday. According to IIHF rules, if a player has not played for a national team in official IIHF tournaments after turning 18, he can change his affiliation and choose another national team to represent in international competitions.

He would have had to surrender his US citizenship altogether to be eligible through citizenship alone and even then it would be subject to IIHF approval.

IIHF Statutes & Bylaws, bylaw 4.2.:

"An Eligible Player who has two legal citizenships or more, or has changed citizenship or has acquired or surrendered a citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF Championship described in Bylaw 11-13, a Men’s Olympic competition or a Men’s Olympic Qualification competition for their Country of choice must: a) Prove that they have (i) participated in the League Competitions within their Country of choice on a consistent basis, over at least sixteen (16) consecutive months (480 days) and during two (2) hockey seasons after their 10th birthday (ii) resided in their Country of choice during that period and (iii) neither transferred to another Country nor played ice hockey for a team registered or located within any other Country during that period"

 

[crazynaiman]

He would have had to surrender his US citizenship altogether to be eligible through citizenship alone and even then it would be subject to IIHF approval.

IIHF Statutes & Bylaws, bylaw 4.2.:

"An Eligible Player who has two legal citizenships or more, or has changed citizenship or has acquired or surrendered a citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF Championship described in Bylaw 11-13, a Men’s Olympic competition or a Men’s Olympic Qualification competition for their Country of choice must: a) Prove that they have (i) participated in the League Competitions within their Country of choice on a consistent basis, over at least sixteen (16) consecutive months (480 days) and during two (2) hockey seasons after their 10th birthday (ii) resided in their Country of choice during that period and (iii) neither transferred to another Country nor played ice hockey for a team registered or located within any other Country during that period"

Thanks for the clarification. I get it now - for players with dual citizenship, there are extra requirements, including living and playing in the chosen country for a certain period, and possibly giving up the citizenship of the other country.

According to IIHF rules, for Josh Doan to play for Canada, he would need to meet these conditions:

1. He must prove that he played in competitions in Canada consistently for at least 16 months and during two hockey seasons after his 10th birthday.

2. He has to have lived in Canada during that time.

3. He can't have played for teams registered in other countries or be registered with other countries during that period.

If Josh meets these conditions, he should be eligible to play for Canada, even if he has US citizenship. However, if he hasn't met these requirements, he might have to renounce his US citizenship to be eligible to play for Canada. Am I right?

 

[ORRFForever]

He would have had to surrender his US citizenship altogether to be eligible through citizenship alone and even then it would be subject to IIHF approval.

IIHF Statutes & Bylaws, bylaw 4.2.:

"An Eligible Player who has two legal citizenships or more, or has changed citizenship or has acquired or surrendered a citizenship and wants to participate for the first time in an IIHF Championship described in Bylaw 11-13, a Men’s Olympic competition or a Men’s Olympic Qualification competition for their Country of choice must: a) Prove that they have (i) participated in the League Competitions within their Country of choice on a consistent basis, over at least sixteen (16) consecutive months (480 days) and during two (2) hockey seasons after their 10th birthday (ii) resided in their Country of choice during that period and (iii) neither transferred to another Country nor played ice hockey for a team registered or located within any other Country during that period"

Playing in the NHL might be enough - it is a dual country league. From what I understand, Joey Daccord can play for Canada IF he gets a Canadian passport so...

It's a moot point. Minus the World Championships, Doan is not making Team Canada.

 

[ORRFForever]

Thanks for the clarification. I get it now - for players with dual citizenship, there are extra requirements, including living and playing in the chosen country for a certain period, and possibly giving up the citizenship of the other country.

According to IIHF rules, for Josh Doan to play for Canada, he would need to meet these conditions:

1. He must prove that he played in competitions in Canada consistently for at least 16 months and during two hockey seasons after his 10th birthday.

2. He has to have lived in Canada during that time.

3. He can't have played for teams registered in other countries or be registered with other countries during that period.

If Josh meets these conditions, he should be eligible to play for Canada, even if he has US citizenship. However, if he hasn't met these requirements, he might have to renounce his US citizenship to be eligible to play for Canada. Am I right?

I've skeptical, my friend. Over the years, I've seen a lot of players skirt the rules to play for a country NOT of their birth.

 

[Albatros]

Playing in the NHL might be enough - it is a dual country league. From what I understand, Joey Daccord can play for Canada IF he gets a Canadian passport so...

It's a moot point. Minus the World Championships, Doan is not making Team Canada.

Joey Daccord played in Canada for more than 480 days between 2019 and 2021 and has birthright citizenship due to his native-born Canadian father despite not acquiring a passport, so he absolutely does qualify without any exceptions as soon as he gets that passport.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Thanks for the clarification. I get it now - for players with dual citizenship, there are extra requirements, including living and playing in the chosen country for a certain period, and possibly giving up the citizenship of the other country.

According to IIHF rules, for Josh Doan to play for Canada, he would need to meet these conditions:

1. He must prove that he played in competitions in Canada consistently for at least 16 months and during two hockey seasons after his 10th birthday.

2. He has to have lived in Canada during that time.

3. He can't have played for teams registered in other countries or be registered with other countries during that period.

If Josh meets these conditions, he should be eligible to play for Canada, even if he has US citizenship. However, if he hasn't met these requirements, he might have to renounce his US citizenship to be eligible to play for Canada. Am I right?

I don’t know personally but I’d imagine he spent some time in Canada as a kid as well. But i do agree he’s not likely to end up on the required level for either team but who knows.

Celebrini looks special
Bedard
McKenna
Dupont
Johnson
Point ?
Laf
Suzuki

Just top of my head.

the goalies are actually on the up to. But let’s see how they turn out.

 

[Nucks2001]

I’d argue that Canada’s future looks better than the USA’s if we’re talking 2030 and beyond.