OT: The Football Team formerly known as Redskins - Super Bowl 2025 or bust! [2025-26 Offseason Extravaganza Edition]

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Fowler not being signed is good. Hope he is back

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Not sure I want him

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[kicksavedave]

Jevon Holland would be awesome. I also like Byron Murphy a lot.

You don’t?

Holland is meh, downhill since his big rookie year. Murphy is decent but only as a 3rd/slot CB for us. He would not be better than Mikey or ML..

I guess we need a new SS since Chinn bolted.

 

[EroCaps]

Gallup? Pass.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yes, but you can’t protect your young QB with picks and cap space. All they get to help their team this year is swapping a 4th for a 3rd and cap space.

He already took the 2nd most sacks last year, can’t get much worse! (JD took only 5 less)

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Like what? That he might have a shitty personality? Everything else is accounted for.

The part of the trade that's contingent on medical is immediate access to those records, and the guy has to be in pretty remarkable condition to have played as consistently as he has, the busted thumb year notwithstanding. These dudes get full imaging every time they get a hangnail, and they have access to all of it.

He can't have a secret criminal record or anything like that unless it's juvenile, so that's not a thing.

The draft thing with the weed and gas mask? We don't care about weed if a guy plays like he does, and football players being knuckleheads is par for the course.

So what COULD they know that has you concerned?

I didn’t say I was concerned, just wondering why they cut bait on their only seemingly good OL when they’re in the same boat as us in needing to protect a young star QB.

 

[g00n]

I didn’t say I was concerned, just wondering why they cut bait on their only seemingly good OL when they’re in the same boat as us in needing to protect a young star QB.

I'm reading they're just cutting costs and clearing cap space to extend Stroud.

 

[StreetHawk]

I didn’t say I was concerned, just wondering why they cut bait on their only seemingly good OL when they’re in the same boat as us in needing to protect a young star QB.

OL age the best after QB. But, he's from the same draft as Ronnie Stanley and he is 31. Not old by OT standards. Tunsil got a new deal when he arrived to Hou from Miami. Got another contract in 2023. Guessing, this is also a contract issue as he's likely due up for a new deal now. Has $10 mill guaranteed currently, but once game 1 comes, his base salary for the full $20 mill will become guaranteed for 2025.

No guaranteed money for 2026. Guess Houston didn't want to pay him for another contract despite how much teams need good LT.

 

[ynotcaps]

I'm reading they're just cutting costs and clearing cap space to extend Stroud.

Which makes perfect sense in that your young, stud QB is a central piece, so you want to get him signed and keep him protec... whoops.

 

[ynotcaps]

Like what? That he might have a shitty personality? Everything else is accounted for.

The part of the trade that's contingent on medical is immediate access to those records, and the guy has to be in pretty remarkable condition to have played as consistently as he has, the busted thumb year notwithstanding. These dudes get full imaging every time they get a hangnail, and they have access to all of it.

He can't have a secret criminal record or anything like that unless it's juvenile, so that's not a thing.

The draft thing with the weed and gas mask? We don't care about weed if a guy plays like he does, and football players being knuckleheads is par for the course.

So what COULD they know that has you concerned?

'xactly. Plus, you know what he did after the weed/gas mask thing? Was named All Pro 5 times. That draft thing officially No Longer Matters.

HOU is back in the WTF Are They Doing?! Club. After having a terrific draft and trade season in '23, they've reverted immediately back to their typical Houstolinian nonsense.

The only question is whether this all some twisted plan to get their young, stud QB killed before they have to give him a big, fat contract extension? Hard to figure any other logic to answering the question, "How do fix this god-forsaken OL" with "Trade our only good OLineman."

 

[g00n]

Ties to the staff.

This feels like trying to lure Gallup out of retirement on a cheapish deal and a "putting the band back together" favor to fill a gap, or something. Never thought he was all that, so any contract needs to be modest.

 

[ynotcaps]

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Ties to the staff.

This feels like trying to lure Gallup out of retirement on a cheapish deal and a "putting the band back together" favor to fill a gap, or something. Never thought he was all that, so any contract needs to be modest.

yeah, it's at most a "fill one of the holes from the 4-5 guys who left" and probably more of a "camp-invite to see if he has anything at all to offer."

 

[Ridley Simon]

No “needle moving” w Gallup. If he is as free as Crowder was, then no problem.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

OL age the best after QB. But, he's from the same draft as Ronnie Stanley and he is 31. Not old by OT standards. Tunsil got a new deal when he arrived to Hou from Miami. Got another contract in 2023. Guessing, this is also a contract issue as he's likely due up for a new deal now. Has $10 mill guaranteed currently, but once game 1 comes, his base salary for the full $20 mill will become guaranteed for 2025.

No guaranteed money for 2026. Guess Houston didn't want to pay him for another contract despite how much teams need good LT.

Yep that was one of my scenarios I mentioned. They didn’t intend on resigning him after this coming year, so they moved him instead. Interesting choice.

 

[Cush]

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Whaaaaaaat is happening?

 

[ynotcaps]

Whaaaaaaat is happening?

Mickey Loomis is septupling down on giving Drew Brees one last chance to win a SB...

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Mickey Loomis is septupling down on giving Drew Brees one last chance to win a SB...

Looking at his stats, best season since his rookie year, but still only 5.5 sacks…also he’s still only 25, that’s wild.

Madness…

 

[Cush]

Byron Murphy staying in Minnesota on a 3 year deal worth 66 million

 

[qc14]

In a vacuum I like the Tunsil deal, just like I liked the Lattimore and Samuel deals. In aggregate though, I do worry they're getting a bit too far out over their skis with at team whose core pieces (excluding Jayden) are all a bit older than you think.

 

[Ridley Simon]

In a vacuum I like the Tunsil deal, just like I liked the Lattimore and Samuel deals. In aggregate though, I do worry they're getting a bit too far out over their skis with at team whose core pieces (excluding Jayden) are all a bit older than you think.

I think that’s maybe the point, though?

 

[Jags]

I think that’s maybe the point, though?

Agreed. It'd be different if they were committed to these older guys for alarming amounts of time or for staggering amounts of money. But so far the willingness to skew older has been pretty evenly tempered by short-term deals and agreeable cap hits. Nothing wrong with older guys unless you're bound to them when they're TOO old.

 

[qc14]

Agreed. It'd be different if they were committed to these older guys for alarming amounts of time or for staggering amounts of money. But so far the willingness to skew older has been pretty evenly tempered by short-term deals and agreeable cap hits. Nothing wrong with older guys unless you're bound to them when they're TOO old.

I just feel like at some point you need to stop having half of the roster turn over every year. I know Tunsil is signed for two and they'll probably rework/extend him for longer.

The variance on the short term deals/reclamation projects/old guys is a lot higher, and I'd like for the roster to take out some of that variance by having core, younger guys signed longer term. You get those guys through the draft, and they've given up a not outrageous but still sizable amount of draft capital