It's changing a "traditional" mindset of relegation with being able to have small market clubs and "Americanizing" it into something that resembles the current NBA so to speak. So in other words, it's like Chicago Bulls, LA Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Heat, and Rockets were all in different leagues and they decided to leave their domestic league (or create a new tournament) and join each other so they wouldn't have to play against the Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Memphis Grizzlies, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Hornets, etc.So...can someone explain this Superleague nonsense to me?
It’s basically a bunch of billionaires upset that they aren’t making enough making enough money creating they’re own league with the richest clubs in the world to make more money without the risk of being outperformed by teams with lesser means that spend their money far better.So...can someone explain this Superleague nonsense to me?
It's changing a "traditional" mindset of relegation with being able to have small market clubs and "Americanizing" it into something that resembles the current NBA so to speak. So in other words, it's like Chicago Bulls, LA Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Heat, and Rockets were all in different leagues and they decided to leave their domestic league (or create a new tournament) and join each other so they wouldn't have to play against the Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Memphis Grizzlies, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Hornets, etc.
The owners are not necessarily trying to "punish" the small market clubs per se, but are trying to "maximise" the profits of...let's say the Lakers vs any of the other super-teams in the NBA every week. These matches would get massive ratings and with more ratings you get more income/profits/whatever. It's getting a lot of terrible publicity because it's trying to go against the grain of tradition by using that same tradition of what qualifies as a "big/superteam". I am not sure if they're trying to leave their domestic competition, but from my understanding they're trying to make a new competition that limits the possibility of any other team being able to join in and why fans (like myself are against it). It's funny though because UEFA (which is the IIHF of Europe) is making rumours of banning players of these said teams that agreed to make the ESL because their own pockets will be the ones getting hurt (as the UEFA currently control the Europe-wide competitions).
It's a ridiculous idea, but in the ridiculous it's also simultaneously rather amusing to see UEFA getting it handed to them and crying about it when they've shown time and time again to be just as corrupt and money-hungry as these "Super League" owners they're accusing of those same things. In the end though this is nothing more than another example of bread and circuses being used to foster a rebellious spirit among fans/the masses to foment mass societal change (see World Economic Forum's #GreatReset). Ordo ab chao...It's changing a "traditional" mindset of relegation with being able to have small market clubs and "Americanizing" it into something that resembles the current NBA so to speak. So in other words, it's like Chicago Bulls, LA Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Heat, and Rockets were all in different leagues and they decided to leave their domestic league (or create a new tournament) and join each other so they wouldn't have to play against the Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Memphis Grizzlies, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Hornets, etc.
The owners are not necessarily trying to "punish" the small market clubs per se, but are trying to "maximise" the profits of...let's say the Lakers vs any of the other super-teams in the NBA every week. These matches would get massive ratings and with more ratings you get more income/profits/whatever. It's getting a lot of terrible publicity because it's trying to go against the grain of tradition by using that same tradition of what qualifies as a "big/superteam". I am not sure if they're trying to leave their domestic competition, but from my understanding they're trying to make a new competition that limits the possibility of any other team being able to join in and why fans (like myself are against it). It's funny though because UEFA (which is the IIHF of Europe) is making rumours of banning players of these said teams that agreed to make the ESL because their own pockets will be the ones getting hurt (as the UEFA currently control the Europe-wide competitions).
It’s basically a bunch of billionaires upset that they aren’t making enough making enough money creating they’re own league with the richest clubs in the world to make more money without the risk of being outperformed by teams with lesser means that spend their money far better.
can someone make a new poll...for example wich club will be the next powerhouse in UEFA CL - Real is getting older, Barca is a mess right now, Inter,PSG and City are always near the top but can't get over that last step, Bayern is current champion...who else is there?
It has been a wild couple of days, jobs are getting axed and high-end people are resigning from all of this (Woodward from Man United and Agnelli from Juventus; two of each country's biggest club). More rumours that certain people are also getting fired/resigning including the main president in all of this Perez from Real Madrid. Not sure if anything is going to happen in Arsenal since the main playa was Stan the Man himself. Also sounds like Atletico from Spain are also getting the papers together to abandoned ship from ESL.It sounds like there were three Premier League teams (Chelsea, Manchester City, and Liverpool) that were going to join this league and the former two are now reportedly bailing, leaving Liverpool. I kinda/sorta root for Liverpool if for no other reason I just like Klopp--he's always a good interview.
In any event this is kinda wild from my perspective--I have no personal stakes in this debacle at all but it's intriguing to see the furor it's caused.
But more importantly the new trailer for season two of Ted Lasso just dropped and I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo psyched.
It's changing a "traditional" mindset of relegation with being able to have small market clubs and "Americanizing" it into something that resembles the current NBA so to speak. So in other words, it's like Chicago Bulls, LA Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Heat, and Rockets were all in different leagues and they decided to leave their domestic league (or create a new tournament) and join each other so they wouldn't have to play against the Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Memphis Grizzlies, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Hornets, etc.
The owners are not necessarily trying to "punish" the small market clubs per se, but are trying to "maximise" the profits of...let's say the Lakers vs any of the other super-teams in the NBA every week. These matches would get massive ratings and with more ratings you get more income/profits/whatever. It's getting a lot of terrible publicity because it's trying to go against the grain of tradition by using that same tradition of what qualifies as a "big/superteam". I am not sure if they're trying to leave their domestic competition, but from my understanding they're trying to make a new competition that limits the possibility of any other team being able to join in and why fans (like myself are against it). It's funny though because UEFA (which is the IIHF of Europe) is making rumours of banning players of these said teams that agreed to make the ESL because their own pockets will be the ones getting hurt (as the UEFA currently control the Europe-wide competitions).
There are 6 English teams, but I don't blame you for not knowing about Arsenal or Tottenham.It sounds like there were three Premier League teams (Chelsea, Manchester City, and Liverpool) that were going to join this league and the former two are now reportedly bailing, leaving Liverpool. I kinda/sorta root for Liverpool if for no other reason I just like Klopp--he's always a good interview.
In any event this is kinda wild from my perspective--I have no personal stakes in this debacle at all but it's intriguing to see the furor it's caused.
But more importantly the new trailer for season two of Ted Lasso just dropped and I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo psyched.
Pretty much, but I take it that hockey and basketball isn't as big nor popular as football is in Europe. Clubs of those sports don't necessarily have the tradition that is raised by a club like Arsenal, Man United, or Barcelona CF. One club that gets pretty much cast off into the doldrums is MK Dons in football because they were founded in 2004 by a local wealthy business-owner. This club was relocated and went against the grains of the said "tradition".I'm clearly not a soccer guy and I totally get why there is huge backlash against this (traditions mean a lot in the sport)... but isn't this basically what the EuroLeague did for basketball? There is still relegation, but building a continental league for the best competition Europe wide.
The KHL has tried this a few times (will always fail because Russia is behind it), but European hockey should absolutely come up with a Europe wide league. Top Swiss, German, Swedish, Finnish, Slovak, and Czech teams in a league with relegation an advancement for other teams (maybe even invite the Latvians).
Pretty much, but I take it that hockey and basketball isn't as big nor popular as football is in Europe. Clubs of those sports don't necessarily have the tradition that is raised by a club like Arsenal, Man United, or Barcelona CF. One club that gets pretty much cast off into the doldrums is MK Dons in football because they were founded in 2004 by a local wealthy business-owner. This club was relocated and went against the grains of the said "tradition".
Football doesn't necessarily need the ESL because UEFA (who are pretty much bad-guys themselves) already established cross-Euro competitions like the Champion's League and Europa. Hockey has also started similar competition, which doesn't include any of the KHL clubs since they want to make their Superleague dream an actuality. The first step into that was when a Russian business owner bought Jokerit in Finland. I think it could work in hockey, but not with the KHL in charge. A lot of European nations do not trust this pro-Putin version of Russia and you probably know that owners of KHL clubs are either wealthy people who have ties with Putin or are oil companies that have direct ties with him lol.
There are 6 English teams, but I don't blame you for not knowing about Arsenal or Tottenham.
The champions league is similar to the Euroleague where teams from different leagues compete against each other. Basically what this was is the 12 richest clubs coming together behind everyone’s back to create their own competition since other teams had started being able to compete with them even though they have significantly less funds. Basically they were threatened by lesser clubs and decided to make their own league that they couldn’t fall out of.I'm clearly not a soccer guy and I totally get why there is huge backlash against this (traditions mean a lot in the sport)... but isn't this basically what the EuroLeague did for basketball? There is still relegation, but building a continental league for the best competition Europe wide.
The KHL has tried this a few times (will always fail because Russia is behind it), but European hockey should absolutely come up with a Europe wide league. Top Swiss, German, Swedish, Finnish, Slovak, and Czech teams in a league with relegation an advancement for other teams (maybe even invite the Latvians).
I get what the champions league is... what this seems like was creating a one Europe league to creat a best of the best league across a large area with lots of money up for grabs. Like the NFL here in the states a money printing machine in an undisputed best league in the world. I get a the backlash given how deep the traditions are in the sport... but the basis makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.The champions league is similar to the Euroleague where teams from different leagues compete against each other. Basically what this was is the 12 richest clubs coming together behind everyone’s back to create their own competition since other teams had started being able to compete with them even though they have significantly less funds. Basically they were threatened by lesser clubs and decided to make their own league that they couldn’t fall out of.
I get what the champions league is... what this seems like was creating a one Europe league to creat a best of the best league across a large area with lots of money up for grabs. Like the NFL here in the states a money printing machine in an undisputed best league in the world. I get a the backlash given how deep the traditions are in the sport... but the basis makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.
I mean from a business perspective it does make sense. But in the process you would be destroying the entire competitive integrity and history of the sport basically.I get what the champions league is... what this seems like was creating a one Europe league to creat a best of the best league across a large area with lots of money up for grabs. Like the NFL here in the states a money printing machine in an undisputed best league in the world. I get a the backlash given how deep the traditions are in the sport... but the basis makes a lot of sense from a business perspective.
Seems like it’s completely fallen apart anyway.
It's not good business if the other 14 teams in the EPL turn against the 6 and relegate them or banish them altogether.
I mean from a business perspective it does make sense. But in the process you would be destroying the entire competitive integrity and history of the sport basically.
I 100% believe this Superleague will eventually happen down the road. It might not be in our lifetime, but there is too much money to be made and with inflation increasing on a yearly basis, it's just a matter of time before these two variables collide forcing a point of no return.When absurd amounts of money are on the table... tradition, history, integrity, etc are all off the table. We've seen it countless times. Look no further than US college football, 50-60+ years of traditions started going out the window the second big TV deals started coming in. Now we have a Big Ten with 16 teams in it and extending outside the midwest in both directions. This sort of league is just a matter of time in Europe. It may not happen now or even within 5 years, but 20 from now we will see something similar to what was proposed here.