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12 years later, this trade has still not been beat as the worst, most one sided trade in NHL history. High way robbery, Erat played what 15 games for Washington that year?
The Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade has still not been beat
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Pablo El Perro
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WHY post this on the main boards?
mr figgles
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Washington won a cup, so I doubt the fans care
Dr Robot
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I can clearly see in the graphic, the trade wasnt one for one.
Could they have won more with Forsberg?
Vegas won a Cup, but I’m sure they would love to have Suzuki as well…
The only thing bothering me about this is that it's been 12 years already. Most of us have taken our Cup and gotten over it. Same way I feel about Bryce Harper running for the hills. A lifetime supply of nananana booboos and neener neeners.
Edit: Hey, some of my likes came back. Neato.
Kevinsane
Kraken up.
There have been far worse trades in NHL history, such as my time in exchange for your post.
Al Lagoon
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Tyler Seguin - Loui Eriksson
Niewundyk - Iginla
Bad trades happen.
The Wild gave up 1000+ games of Nick Leddy plus Kim Johnsson for Cam Barker.
Niewundyk - Iginla
Bad trades happen.
The Wild gave up 1000+ games of Nick Leddy plus Kim Johnsson for Cam Barker.
It’s an awful trade, but the Caps won the cup a few years later and are still competitive today so whatever
Ouroboros
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Mark Stone for Oscar Lindberg, Erik Brannstrom and a 2nd round pick.
JoeSakic13
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Francis, Ulf, Jennings for Cullen, Zalapski, Parker
Naslund for Stojanov
Naslund for Stojanov
Jumptheshark
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Worse trade for my life time that is still paying off for one team?
Cam Neely and 1st for Barry Pederson.
The first turned into Glenn Wesley. Bruins flipped Wesley for 3 first and that trade tree is alive and well and may go on for 20 more years.
But I am still convinced that Bruins suspected Pederson injury was degenerative but said nothing. Nucks gave him a physical and he passed.
Benedict Kovalchuk
Kovalchuk: A spy?
Griffin Reinhart for a 1st and a 2nd is still pretty brutal.
A dubie special
Kadri at a 4 mil caphit no less with multiple years left
For
Barrie 50% retsined
Alexander the Great kerfoot
Note: Kadri scored maybe the most important goal in the avs cup run, a game 5 OT top cheddar on vasi. Where momma keeps the bread
Kadri at a 4 mil caphit no less with multiple years left
For
Barrie 50% retsined
Alexander the Great kerfoot
Note: Kadri scored maybe the most important goal in the avs cup run, a game 5 OT top cheddar on vasi. Where momma keeps the bread
mr figgles
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Maybe, but also maybe they don't win a cup because the dynamics of their team changes.
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ColbyChaos
Bring back bullying on HFboards
Trotz is such a bad gm it is a surprise he didn’t trade Forsberg for a retired Martin Erat yet
TruePowerSlave
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I'd argue it's worse or at least in the ballpark. Reinhart had no real NHL future just empty hype and that 1st got you a really damn good NHLer, unless the Bruins were picking.
M88K
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That trade resulted in a cup. And was most definitely not a bad trade. A Conn Smythe winner no less.
The only thing that makes it bad is they could have sent Harvey instead
A bad trade involving Nieuwendyk, is the Langenbrunner + Nieuwendyk for Arnott +McKay
AD1066
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If Washington/Ovechkin never a Cup, this trade would haunt the franchise forever. I still wonder if it cost them an additional Cup somewhere along the way.
The Tourist
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Nieuwendyk for Iginla wasn’t a bad trade. Dallas won a cup in 99 and Joe won the Conn Smythe. They probably win in 98 too if he doesn’t get hurt.
As much as I like to use this trade to poke fun at my Caps fan friends, it’s entirely possible that without this trade, Forsberg is put into the role that Tom Wilson was the following season. As Forsberg at the time was an older and more “ready” NHL player who was recently drafted higher, this is a pretty likely scenario.
If Wilson doesn’t get his opportunity that early, does he become the same player? He was almost inarguably one of the three Caps most responsible for winning the Cup - maybe even the most. As much as I don’t like his antics, he’s a very good and very important piece of that franchise’s Cup history now.
As bad as the trade looks on paper - and it is VERY one-sided - history likely makes that more palatable for Washington and their fans, despite seeing how good Forsberg has been in his career. Bust of a trade with major unintended consequences resulting in a Cup.
If Wilson doesn’t get his opportunity that early, does he become the same player? He was almost inarguably one of the three Caps most responsible for winning the Cup - maybe even the most. As much as I don’t like his antics, he’s a very good and very important piece of that franchise’s Cup history now.
As bad as the trade looks on paper - and it is VERY one-sided - history likely makes that more palatable for Washington and their fans, despite seeing how good Forsberg has been in his career. Bust of a trade with major unintended consequences resulting in a Cup.
sabremike
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This trade isn't just the most disastrous trade in hockey history, it's arguably the single most disastrous trade in the history of pro sports: It quite literally killed an NHL team.
You're not joking about the Neely trade. The picks that came out of the Wesley trade ultimately got them:
1. Kyle Maclaren -
2. Jeff Hackett
3. Jeff Jilson
4. Brad Boyes
5. Dennis Wideman
6. Greg Campbell
7. Nathan Horton
8. Sergei Samsonov
9. Marty Reasoner
10. Milan Lucic
11. Martin Jones
13. Trent Frederic
14. Jakob Zboril
15. Andrew Peeke
16. Colin Miller
17. 2025 2nd rounder
18. 2026 4th rounder
I'm not going to add those totals up, but the value is absolutely batspit crazy. I agree, outside of possibly the Gretzky and Lindros trades, I don't know of any trade that brought back as large a haul as this one ultimately did. And Barry Pederson is no Gretzky or Lindros.
