Player Discussion: The Elvis Thread

[ViD]

A waste of half a decade.

The only thing Elvis has done positive for the team, is set them up for future success by helping the team add guys like Fantilli, KJ, etc., while also just giving the team a future boost from simply being used to (and subsequently ending) playing in front of a terrible goalie they don’t enjoy playing for.

Well, the team has been bad outside of him all these years, you can realistically only say he might have negatively affected our play offs chances this year only

 

[Theo Von]

His biggest issue and most frustrating. He’s just in his head a lot and/or extremely inconsistent. He can get on a heater, but not enough to justify the inconsistency AND the “antics”.

I’m a pretty big Elvis fan (even have his jersey) but this season should probably be it. The only way I think he should be back is if they’re able to make the playoffs AND he’s the primary starter in these final games (like, starts in 5 or 6 of them and plays decently well) AND he plays reasonably well in the playoffs. I doubt both that this team makes the playoffs and that it’s his net anyway from here on out, which means it’s probably over.

It looked earlier in the season like he turned a corner with his mental nature and in the locker room, and he’s probably better there than he used to be, but it’s not enough. It doesn’t matter the reasons/excuses. Covid seasons impacting his growth, four (well, five…) head coaches, front office changes, terrible defensive roster for most of his tenure, being/becoming a father, and of course, the tragedy of Kivi’s death….

All/most of them are probably valid reasons / excuses. But it doesn’t matter. This was his one chance at a fresh start in Cbus, with the new HC/GM. And again, it was better, but not enough. He’s on the wrong side of 30, he can only change so much. With the cap rising and with choosing to hold off on the buyout until now, the buyout this summer will now be semi-reasonable.

I’m still hopeful in the ~5% chance I laid out above that we rally to make the playoffs and his play is part of the reason why. But 95% I think this should be it.

I would change that 95 percent to 99.99999999 percent.

 

[NotWendell]

I want the best for him as a person, but If I never see Elvis in a CBJ jersey again, it'll be too soon.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Its funny how nobody really talks about terrible defensemen and forwards like this.

 

[stevo61]

Its funny how nobody really talks about terrible defensemen and forwards like this.

Yeah, have never seen anything bad said about Severson, Kunin, ZAR, Sillinger, Gudranson in their entire time here

 

[joybang]

Its funny how nobody really talks about terrible defensemen and forwards like this.

Who cares. Elvis stinks. Let’s move on.

 

[Theo Von]

Its funny how nobody really talks about terrible defensemen and forwards like this.

you must not be familiar with the severson chatter in this neck of the woods

 

[Theo Von]

january 2020…. better times. memories of the long distant past, sadly.

 

[CBJ goalie]

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Who cares. Elvis stinks. Let’s move on.

You're right, the quicker we can get another goalie, the quicker we can hate on them too.

 

[thebus88]

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january 2020…. better times. memories of the long distant past, sadly.

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[CBJWerenski8]

Say what you want about Elvis (and I know I have too) but the dude cares a lot and appears to be a genuinely good man. Sometimes how much he cares is his greatest undoing, but it’s better than not caring at all.

 

[The Four Seven]

Who cares. Elvis stinks. Let’s move on.

All anyone has been doing for the last f***ing three days is harp on how bad Elvis is. There ain't no moving on happening here.

 

[Indy18]

Say what you want about Elvis (and I know I have too) but the dude cares a lot and appears to be a genuinely good man. Sometimes how much he cares is his greatest undoing, but it’s better than not caring at all.

Well that ended up being an expensive game for him.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

you must not be familiar with the severson chatter in this neck of the woods

Oh. I'm aware but he doesn't face near the hatred Elvis does.

This place becomes super negative even though this season overall should be considered a success based on where we started but the vitriol towards players is just internet tough guy syndrome. I know I've been guilty myself in the past but I try not to talk about individual people in that manner. It's just negative and not productive. Personal shots at individuals is just not necessary.

The sucking is a team effort and it will just get addressed in the offseason. Cleaning up Jarmo's mess isn't going to happen overnight. DW is finding out who the players to keep are in this playoff stretch and nobody is exempt from that.

 

[Cowumbus]

Say what you want about Elvis (and I know I have too) but the dude cares a lot and appears to be a genuinely good man. Sometimes how much he cares is his greatest undoing, but it’s better than not caring at all.

Does he learn from his mistakes?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Merzlikins and veteran defenseman Erik Gudbranson could be seen barking at each other during play early in the third period on Saturday. It started between the time Toronto’s William Nylander scored to make it 3-0 (at 1:11 of the period) and when he scored again to make it 4-0 (at 4:21), and it spilled over to the bench area during a TV timeout a few minutes later. That’s what Evason was likely referring to when he said the Blue Jackets started “finger-pointing” during the loss. Gudbranson was asked post-game by reporters in Toronto about the challenge of staying united, even as the season slips away. “We’re the same team from when it was going well and the same team now,” Gudbranson said. “It’s a great group of guys and a lot of character in this room. We’re working toward a goal and sometimes you have disagreements, but we all love each other in here.”

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[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Nanabijou]

I have no idea what goes on in the dressing room, but that interview bolsters the notion that Elvis has matured this year. When I clicked on it, I was expecting him to say something he might regret but that was not the case.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I have no idea what goes on in the dressing room, but that interview bolsters the notion that Elvis has matured this year. When I clicked on it, I was expecting him to say something he might regret but that was not the case.

I really do wish him well wherever he goes. There’s a good goalie in there.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Maybe as things slip away we'll see some different looks but the goalie market is not easy and we aren't in the dressing room.

Clearly there is something that has soured them on Tarasov to not trust him and it would be irresponsible to give the job to Greaves next season. Both of them have small sample sizes this season that I don't want to look too far into.

Unless we somehow make a move for a can't miss guy I don't see Elvis getting bought out. Tarasov is gone and it will be Elvis and Greaves in the NHL is my prediction.

Priority needs to be fixing the defense and forward depth so they play better team defense in front of any goalie. Elvis has been better but as pointed out just hasn't been good enough or consistent enough. However, I've yet to see a better option that tells me to absolutely move away from him.

 

[CBJ goalie]

I really do wish him well wherever he goes. There’s a good goalie in there.

He doesn't have to go anywhere, he can stay a Blue Jacket.
When the D was playing well, he was playing well.
I believe the focus will to be to fix the D. JJ won't be back. And the way they're sitting Severson isn't promising either. Provorov will be gone too.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Maybe as things slip away we'll see some different looks but the goalie market is not easy and we aren't in the dressing room.

Clearly there is something that has soured them on Tarasov to not trust him and it would be irresponsible to give the job to Greaves next season. Both of them have small sample sizes this season that I don't want to look too far into.

Unless we somehow make a move for a can't miss guy I don't see Elvis getting bought out. Tarasov is gone and it will be Elvis and Greaves in the NHL is my prediction.

Priority needs to be fixing the defense and forward depth so they play better team defense in front of any goalie. Elvis has been better but as pointed out just hasn't been good enough or consistent enough. However, I've yet to see a better option that tells me to absolutely move away from him.

I mostly agree, but goalies come available a good bit. I can't think of too many teams we have a better goaltending situation than.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

He doesn't have to go anywhere, he can stay a Blue Jacket.
When the D was playing well, he was playing well.

Ideally not.

Even when we were winning games he’s been in the bottom 10 of in stats and analytics. He had some great individual performances. But it’s time for him and Tarasov to go.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Ideally not.

Even when we were winning games he’s been in the bottom 10 of in stats and analytics. He had some great individual performances. But it’s time for him and Tarasov to go.

Time to go and finding an attainable/better replacement aren't necessarily the same thing.

Stats and analytics have their place but they aren't the end all/be all. Improving the play of the 5 guys in front can mean just as much of an improvement.

You said yourself there is a good goalie in there. It's still a team effort.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Time to go and finding an attainable/better replacement aren't necessarily the same thing.

Stats and analytics have their place but they aren't the end all/be all. Improving the play of the 5 guys in front can mean just as much of an improvement.

You said yourself there is a good goalie in there. It's still a team effort.

No doubt. This isn’t all on Elvis (or Tarasov) and for a large part of his tenure here he’s had atrocious defenses.

However this late season implosion was a large part due to Elvis imploding. And given how Waddell wasn’t exactly complimentary of him going into this season, I think if there’s a way to get out of this he’ll do it. But with the cap floor being where it is, it’s very possible Elvis stays. But he can’t be the unquestioned starter.