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majormajor

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ColumbusTrill said:
Who is going to want him tho? Bad contract, questionable attitude, and average to below average numbers. Feel like we're stuck with him and teams would rather see him make a turnaround with us before making a trade vs hoping they can fix him now. Do believe Wadell + a veteran coach can get things in better shape than our previous regime.
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If I'm a team looking for a 1B at $3m, and I'm choosing between Elvis and Husso and Forsberg, and DeSmith, I might just go with Elvis. He's got an upside case. There's a downside case too but I like the upside more.

His attitude is more of a problem for us given how messy and young our team is, but if I have a solid veteran room I'm less concerned about it.
 
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majormajor said:
His attitude is more of a problem for us given how messy and young our team is, but if I have a solid veteran room I'm less concerned about it.
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You keep bringing up his attitude. Like every post about him. Is there any real evidence he has an attitude issue? Or evidence the team doesn’t like him? Aren’t there pictures of him hanging out with the Russians and Tex? You seem to be more willing to accept some speculation more than others. There are definitely locker room issues with this team. We really don’t know what they are.
 
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Alleged locker room issues.

we have no proof as such other than what hockey writers say in extremely broad terms because they know they can't back up anything more in depth with confirmed sources.
 

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You keep bringing up his attitude. Like every post about him. Is there any real evidence he has an attitude issue? Or evidence the team doesn’t like him? Aren’t there pictures of him hanging out with the Russians and Tex? You seem to be more willing to accept some speculation more than others. There are definitely locker room issues with this team. We really don’t know what they are.
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I was responding to a post where his attitude issues were brought up. This is not a me thing.

I've seen enough to come to that conclusion, if you haven't, that's fine. It does feel kind of rich coming from you because your posts are largely idiosyncratic speculation.
 
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I was responding to a post where his attitude issues were brought up. This is not a me thing.

I've seen enough to come to that conclusion, if you haven't, that's fine. It does feel kind of rich coming from you because your posts are largely idiosyncratic speculation.
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More about management than players. I have seen enough incompetent management in my day to recognize it. Incompetent management is incompetent management and it doesn’t matter if it is an airplane manufacturer or a seafood restaurant chain or a hockey team — you can hide it for awhile but it becomes apparent eventually.

I rarely make comments about players without evidence. I was hard on Milano because he never backchecked and was arrested for fighting a guy he had been drinking with. There was plenty of evidence there. I never picked sides in the great Korpi / Elvis debate. I would rather have brought in Freddie Andersen who played really well against us but was blamed for losing the series to us. If I say things about players it is more of the “why don’t we have any defensive defensemen?” or “we have too many damn wings” nature. Or I might criticize a contract. I might suggest trades for players I actually like because I want to maximize value or get rid of some wings. I am willing to trade Boone Jenner because I find the evidence he is an effective captain for this team seriously lacking and he has good trade value. I think Rick Nash wasted his talents and told my kids to play like Calvert or Atkinson and not Nash.

I certainly try to avoid attacking players’ characters unless they are known homophobes or have creepy articles written about them by porn stars or something like that. You won’t see me calling guys “coach killers” or blaming locker room problems all on one guy.

For the most part players are young males who don’t have fully developed prefrontal cortexes and are given too much money too early in their lives and put on pedestals by fans. I cut them some slack. Management however? That is another story entirely. I think I once said that not only should Jarmo and JD be fired, they should be put at center ice and have Laine, Chinakhov, and randomly selected season ticket holders fire pucks at their groins. I stand by that.
 
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For lack of a better place to post:

From The Athletic:



32. Columbus Blue Jackets​

Current: 30

Granger: Since his breakout rookie season in 2019-20, Elvis Merzlikins’ play has slowly declined. He bounced back slightly last year but was still a well below-average starter. Daniil Tarasov showed some flashes that he could be ready to take the starting role in 2024-25, and I liked the little I saw from undrafted rookie Jet Greaves, but the Blue Jackets are lacking a true No. 1.

Future: 20

Wheeler: I don’t see anything in signed goalie Nolan Lalonde, who has struggled to win starts in the OHL, but the Blue Jackets have three other young goalies who all have some real merits. The diminutive Sergei Ivanov is one of my favorites and was one of the stories of the KHL season last year. Evan Gardner was a nice story in the WHL as well, playing 30 games to excellent results as a rookie in the league at 17 and 18 to get drafted in the second round despite a small sample size. Greaves looks like a solid 2/3 already and was one of the better goalies outside the NHL last season. They clearly aren’t fussy about size, either, because all of those last three are about 6 feet. One or two of them could become a real option for them, though, and I thought about slotting them a little higher in the future ranking on the back of that.

Cap: 32

McIndoe: At $5.4 million for the next three seasons, you probably couldn’t give Merzlikins away for free right now. The younger guys will be cheap, but that’s about where the good news ends.

Bottom line: Bad goaltending today, decent prospects, and a potential anchor of a contract clogging up the works. The Blue Jackets take the basement, and it wasn’t especially close.

 
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For lack of a better place to post:

From The Athletic:



32. Columbus Blue Jackets​

Current: 30

Granger: Since his breakout rookie season in 2019-20, Elvis Merzlikins’ play has slowly declined. He bounced back slightly last year but was still a well below-average starter. Daniil Tarasov showed some flashes that he could be ready to take the starting role in 2024-25, and I liked the little I saw from undrafted rookie Jet Greaves, but the Blue Jackets are lacking a true No. 1.

Future: 20

Wheeler: I don’t see anything in signed goalie Nolan Lalonde, who has struggled to win starts in the OHL, but the Blue Jackets have three other young goalies who all have some real merits. The diminutive Sergei Ivanov is one of my favorites and was one of the stories of the KHL season last year. Evan Gardner was a nice story in the WHL as well, playing 30 games to excellent results as a rookie in the league at 17 and 18 to get drafted in the second round despite a small sample size. Greaves looks like a solid 2/3 already and was one of the better goalies outside the NHL last season. They clearly aren’t fussy about size, either, because all of those last three are about 6 feet. One or two of them could become a real option for them, though, and I thought about slotting them a little higher in the future ranking on the back of that.

Cap: 32

McIndoe: At $5.4 million for the next three seasons, you probably couldn’t give Merzlikins away for free right now. The younger guys will be cheap, but that’s about where the good news ends.

Bottom line: Bad goaltending today, decent prospects, and a potential anchor of a contract clogging up the works. The Blue Jackets take the basement, and it wasn’t especially close.

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A pretty fair assessment of the CBJ goalie situation.
 
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im expecting big things from Elvis, hes been in the gym a lot, constantly working out. hopefully helps him clear his mind and get him back to where we need him
 
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im expecting big things from Elvis, hes been in the gym a lot, constantly working out. hopefully helps him clear his mind and get him back to where we need him
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We can hope. I want him to be successful. Hopefully some structure and accountability from the new staff will help with that.
 
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Maybe we'll benefit from the Costanza Rule. Every other year, we would have dumped this clown. But we can't. So maybe the opposite must be right?

Hope springs eternal.
 
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koteka said:
He seems to hang out with Marchenko, Chinakhov, and Voronkov a lot for a guy who is a locker room problem.
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I've always been open to consider a fact that many people here haven't believed was possible that maybe, just maybe, the locker room issue was coaching and management.

Yes, he did need to play better but there's not a person on the roster the last couple of years that didn't need to play better. I think we see a much more positive environment this season for everyone and it is starting from the top down.
 
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majormajor said:
Sounds like a guy who is on much better terms with his teammates.

It was very obvious and not just from one guy's reporting that there were very serious issues with Elvis. There was a lot of widely reported drama that you seem to have forgotten about.
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Drama is drama but there always seems to be 3 sides to every story as they say. Elvis would have his version, whoever reported the drama would have their version and the truth is probably somewhere in between.

The issue is we never heard any reporting on Elvis's side of such drama. the reporting was always one sided.
 
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What I don’t understand is how anything negative that’s in the “press” is apparently supposed to be dismissed, yet, every little positive tidbit or PR quote that paints him in a positive light is fully trusted.

He clearly has a frail ego that needs constant support. The team and organization understands this, and is PROBABLY an aspect that certain players and coaches had and HAVE a problem with.

Tarasov is still the better goalie and should be the “starter”. IMO
 
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Tarasov is still the better goalie and should be the “starter”. IMO
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I am inclined to agree that right now, Tarasov is the better player. But I remember the early days, where Elvis looked very promising. If he rounds back into form and starts fulfilling the promise of his youth he should be given opportunities to reclaim the starting role.

Goalie development is often slow and erratic, so I don’t rule out the possibility.
 
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