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The Definitive Dud Holloway Appreciation Thread
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Raccoon Jesus
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He felt slighted/passed up when DL wouldn't offer him a one-way deal/guaranteed roster spot (speculating on the second one) and bolted to europe soon after. ...which is funny because he probably would have been called up in the first month or so due to injuries.
tigermask48
Maniacal Laugh
I'm not Holloway's mother, but I don't really get the sneers. The player made a decision based on the best available info at the time, which decision made him plenty of dough (plenty more than he'd likely have gotten in the Kings org) and an opportunity to demonstrate his skills. He may have gotten a call up, but I don't expect that he would have excelled. The Kings don't have a lot of roster spots filled by waterbugs for a reason.
Papa Mocha 15
I love the smell of ice in the morning.
I believe the sneers have more to do with the fact that he demanded that he get guaranteed a spot on the roster when there were other players who were willing to go through the process. For the most part, our prospects are going to spend 2-3 years in the AHL for proper development. Other teams want to rush them along, LA doesn't do that. Bud had done about 2.5 years and was on the verge of the call up and just gave up. It's more about the fact that he demanded the one way contract. If you're a rookie, you just don't pull that with your GM when you haven't proven it in your preseason games.
I really liked this article from Jason Lewis which discusses how LA develops prospects in comparison to other teams.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=69651&blogger_id=179
jimmy1100
Registered User
I don't get these complaints at all. You all act like Holloway is some petulant child who said, I play NHL hockey or screw the Kings. That is not what happened in the slightest.
Did he want a one-way contract? Yes. Is there anything wrong with that? No. He made what he felt was the best financial decision for him at the time. Any of you saying otherwise that weren't directly involved in the negotiating process are just putting your own spin on it.
What most of you fail to remember is that this is a human being who, for all he knows, could've suffered a career-ending injury before he got a payday that could take care of him for the rest of his life. He took the guaranteed money. So what?
Was I happy with his decision? No. I thought he'd get his shot and run with it and was disappointed it didn't work out that way, much as some of you were. But the way some of you talk about this decision without even considering the other side is, IMO, absolutely ridiculous.
What if he stays on two-way contract, gets his shot and ***** the bed? If that happens, we (as fans) are all still disappointed he didn't pan out, AND Holloway didn't make any good money.
Bottom line is that he made the safe choice for himself and some of you are turning it into something it isn't/wasn't.
Did he want a one-way contract? Yes. Is there anything wrong with that? No. He made what he felt was the best financial decision for him at the time. Any of you saying otherwise that weren't directly involved in the negotiating process are just putting your own spin on it.
What most of you fail to remember is that this is a human being who, for all he knows, could've suffered a career-ending injury before he got a payday that could take care of him for the rest of his life. He took the guaranteed money. So what?
Was I happy with his decision? No. I thought he'd get his shot and run with it and was disappointed it didn't work out that way, much as some of you were. But the way some of you talk about this decision without even considering the other side is, IMO, absolutely ridiculous.
What if he stays on two-way contract, gets his shot and ***** the bed? If that happens, we (as fans) are all still disappointed he didn't pan out, AND Holloway didn't make any good money.
Bottom line is that he made the safe choice for himself and some of you are turning it into something it isn't/wasn't.
King'sPawn
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He chose the safe choice instead of pushing himself harder and gutting it out to force his way into the NHL. At worst, all he had to do was stay one more year in the AHL and he would have been waiver eligible. The Kings either would have kept him up or he would have been claimed by another team to give him the chance.
He's not a bad person for choosing the easier route. He's just not the NHLer he thinks he is.
jimmy1100
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And I completely agree with how you stated it!
What I disagree with is people putting a negative spin on it like he didn't get his way, so he took his ball and played elsewhere. The negative part is only coming from us, as fans, not getting what we want.
I guess I would say that you can cheer a man for taking a risk, but you cannot fault him for playing it safe.
King'sPawn
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That's true. And I guess I don't fault him, although I do get annoyed at him not sticking with it, like most of the other prospects who have to endure frustration.
So as a fan, yes, I'm annoyed, but I'm not going to assassinate his character for it.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Don't really give two ***** one way or the other about ol' Bud. Just having fun with how his career has panned out. I'm sure other posters here are doing the same. No one is really taking it seriously; it's a joke thread.
Relax, guys. I'm sure Bud isn't reading this thread and having marathon crying jags in the corner of his room balled up in the fetal position.
I'm sure of it.
Relax, guys. I'm sure Bud isn't reading this thread and having marathon crying jags in the corner of his room balled up in the fetal position.
I'm sure of it.
triplcrown
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Bud Holloway is awesome.
I know folks want to know more about that 12-point game Bud had earlier this year.
Here's the box score:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nP1UFJO7GEs/VZd6RWH4DkI/AAAAAAAABXs/xjRSqeVsBN4/s400/Inside+Issue.jpg
I know folks want to know more about that 12-point game Bud had earlier this year.
Here's the box score:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nP1UFJO7GEs/VZd6RWH4DkI/AAAAAAAABXs/xjRSqeVsBN4/s400/Inside+Issue.jpg
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Bud Holloway was waived by Montreal today. They don't know what they're passing up on, the guy is a future Rocket Richard.
I think you mean Rocket Swiss Chard:
http://www.caloriecount.com/sauteed-swiss-chard-rocket-recipe-r1464332
mmmm.... salad.
Holden Caulfield
CANADA. True North Strong and FREE
Unless waiver ages were adjusted in 2013 CBA (can't recall if they were) he would have been waiver eligible the next season (11-12 the year he left).
Waivers are risky though, often times do not pursue better players on waivers since they don't know them as well as their own guys.
I don't get the hate at all though. The guy did what he thought was best for his career and life. He has that right.
I blame Bud "Millions (offered from the KHL)" Holloway for sitting through a season of Frattin/Carcillo.
bland
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He didn't want to follow the same route that has proven successful. He made a poor decision, and he has suffered the consequences. Now he is just too old to have a team spend the time on that last refined portion of development - teams have their own draft picks to nurture.
The guy committed NHL career suicide. I don't feel sorry for him at all - common sense at the time was to stick it out but he wanted more than he had earned and deserved. That was the prevailing opinion at the time, and it has proven true.
Raccoon Jesus
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