How so? I haven't used my crystal ball to say one would be better then another without any history of the matter.
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How so? I haven't used my crystal ball to say one would be better then another without any history of the matter.
TheCLAM
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It's either the Leafs continue with Bozak or Kadri going forward. Neither are #1C it's pretty clear and you can't have success as a playoff team without a top-line center.
I'm not just saying its true, I'm using premises to prove my conclusion. It's called empirical reasoning, and it's a hell of a lot more credible then just refuting something because you don't believe it to be true.
It isn't true. When Kadri plays on the first PP over time we would have an answer. Today just saying he's better on the 1 PP doesn't make it true. You have no data to back that up.
Yes but I have general knowledge that the 1st pp is more productive then the 2nd pp which you agreed to! So by knowing this you can assume that when a player goes from the 2nd the the 1st his production would increase as well. There's no career in science for you buddy. I'm starting to believe you are the same poster as well, your ability to ignore even the most fundamental reasoning tools is uncanny.
zeke
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Well, again, no.
Kadri has been more productive on the PP in each of the last 2 seasons, despite being on the 2nd pp unit, with 2nd pp minutes.
If you think claiming "but moving from the 2nd to 1st unit PP doesn't guarantee improvement in production" is you bringing the truth to the boards, well, it isn't.
Kadri has been more productive on the PP in each of the last 2 seasons, despite being on the 2nd pp unit, with 2nd pp minutes.
If you think claiming "but moving from the 2nd to 1st unit PP doesn't guarantee improvement in production" is you bringing the truth to the boards, well, it isn't.
I literally just step by step explained this using the scientific method lol, he still refuted it with no evidence.
So it's hypothetical. It's maybe. It's could be. Jesus isn't that exactly what I said. Until it happens it hasn't so just saying it could maybe happen doesn't make it so.
leafs in five
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Oh come on. PK forwards especially take like 25 second shifts if there is an opportunity to change. The idea that a second PP unit would only ever face the second string PK of the opposition is pretty ludicrous.
Yes, I have. I literally used the scientific method, to construct my argument against you. You agreed to the premises, which means you must accept the conclusion. Are you being naive intentionally?
What does what even mean?
It's a link. You click it. It will open a post in which I quoted and responded to you.
YEAH but there is far more evidence to support it happening then it not. The only basis you have in your argument is "it isn't proven yet". Sure, it isn't, but that's also what people in the 14th century said about the world being round. It is proven all the time by players who are given 1st pp minutes over second, so it's really a lot easier to believe it will happen then it wont.
David Clarkson got 30 goals, partially by playing on a 1st pp unit in NJ. He comes here and got no pp / 2nd pp minutes, and look at the outcome.
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Bozak with 21 minutes last night and 61% at the dot, winning 14 of 23.
By far the most face-offs for the Leafs.
He's taken 100 more face-offs than the next highest Leafs player, and is at 54.2% getting the toughest draws. Interesting that he's better on the road where Carlyle doesn't get the last change. Perhaps that's because Carlyle can't protect other centers on the road to the same degree?
By far the most face-offs for the Leafs.
He's taken 100 more face-offs than the next highest Leafs player, and is at 54.2% getting the toughest draws. Interesting that he's better on the road where Carlyle doesn't get the last change. Perhaps that's because Carlyle can't protect other centers on the road to the same degree?
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Also scored a PP goal off a face off win, controlling the puck, and almost tied the game off another faceoff win.
Nice weapon to have, having a Center that is good off the dot.
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really hope Tyler stays healthy this year so we can get a good evaluation of how much he can produce over a full season rather then small hot streak increments
Suntouchable13
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People keep defending mediocre players and then they expect more than mediocre results. Great, he has 60 points in his last 70 games. He wouldn't have this many points if he played on a playoff team/SC contender. On a really good team, he wouldn't be getting #1 PP units spoon fed to him, and he wouldn't be playing anywhere near a top line.
an OK player on a bad team, getting himself padded up because he is playing out of slot
I hear that about other teams players all the time
maybe they are onto something.
zeke
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Its funny what kinds of players you see on contenders' top lines around the league, actually.
If I move Clarkson from the 2nd PP to the 1st PP in place of Kessel, does his production increase as well?
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LOL putting two seasons together to come up with a 60 points something he has never done....never even 50 points in a season yet.....something Stajan did twice 55 and 57 points in back to back seasons.
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