Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[AHLdepth]

Prime example of a guy that might want to go short, wait for the cap to boom, and then cash in big. Might have an agent talking around about how Florida is now an example of a team that got it done with a big price goaltender......all of this to say it's the Bruins so he'll sign a 7 @5.8 and we'll all fight back tears

 

[dgibb10]

Prime example of a guy that might want to go short, wait for the cap to boom, and then cash in big. Might have an agent talking around about how Florida is now an example of a team that got it done with a big price goaltender......all of this to say it's the Bruins so he'll sign a 7 @5.8 and we'll all fight back tears

Goalies should always go for term.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Here's what I assume happened

Sweeney and Swayman's agent had the framework of an extension worked out before the draft and shook on it, saying they'd hammer out the details later. That gave Sweeney assurance to trade Ullmark before the draft and make the moves in free agency he did. Then afterwards he circled back and Swayman & his agent go SIKE, now that you don't have Ullmark we have all the leverage and the ask on years and/or AAV went up.

I doubt this happened.

They needed to trade Ullmark, because Swayman was their guy. They did not have the luxury to hold on to Ullmark, because the market for him was limited. Had they waited to move him, Ottawa could have moved on. The fact that Boston only got a late 1st while having to take Korpisalo should show you how limited their leverage already was.

Not to mention, Ullmark could have added Ottawa to his trade list on July 1st. This would have given him and his agent complete control over the situation, because they could have said we only want to go to Ottawa with an above market-value extension in place, or we want to play out the season in Boston and won't waive for the 1-2 teams we know wanted Ullmark that we now added to our list.

Ullmark apparently did not have Ottawa on his list because with Ottawa adding Korpisalo last year, burning a spot on Ottawa didn't make sense. That isn't to say he was upset about going to Ottawa, but it would only be logical to assume that he would add Ottawa to his list on July 1st because it would only further add to his leverage.

The short of it is that they had to move Ullmark when they did. They chose Swayman, and the market for Ullmark was limited and challenging.

 

[jackjohnson]

Sway for Demko e5

No thanks, Demko is the better goalie. People are writing him off due to his injuries lol

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Here's what I assume happened

Sweeney and Swayman's agent had the framework of an extension worked out before the draft and shook on it, saying they'd hammer out the details later. That gave Sweeney assurance to trade Ullmark before the draft and make the moves in free agency he did. Then afterwards he circled back and Swayman & his agent go SIKE, now that you don't have Ullmark we have all the leverage and the ask on years and/or AAV went up.

I think it’s more complex than that.

First of all, to understand what happened to Swayman, you gotta understand who Swayman the goalie WAS. Now Swayman was born to a three-legged bitch of a mother. And he was always ashamed of this. And then right after that, he's adopted by this man, Tito Liebowitz. He's a small-time gunrunner and goalie fight promoter. So he puts Swayman into training, next thing you know… Swayman’s GOOD! He is DAMN good!

But then, he had the fight of his life. They pit him against his brother Ullmark. And Swayman said, "No, man, that's my brother, I can't fight Ullmark!" And he made him fight anyway. And then Swayman… killed Ullmark. And Swayman said, "That's it!!!" And he called off all his fights, and he started doing crack, and he ffffffffFREAKED OUT. And then in a rage, he collapsed, and his heart... no longer beat. Wow.

 

[Burnie97]

I hope the ask is 8 plus... f*** the Bruins

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I hope Montreal offer sheets him at like 10; Bruins match . Everyone loses

 

[BostonBob]

Sway for Demko e5

No thanks, Demko is the better goalie. People are writing him off due to his injuries lol

Nope. lol right back at you.

 

[Peasy]

Good shit swayman get what you deserve!

Maybe the Bruins should have signed him before trading away ullmark and giving him all the leverage.

 

[HuGort]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1826756745215312200

If he misses camp could be big

 

[Jeune Poulet]

If a plug like Broberg can get a $4.5M offer sheet, the fax machine of Swayman's agent must sound like a pinball machine in the 80s.

 

[Ivo]

Montembault + Armia + CGY/FLA unprotected 1st

for

Swayman (7 millions x 6 years)

Do it, Boston!

I think, if he was willing to sign that contract, he would already be signed by the Bruins.

 

[Dr Quincy]

If a plug like Broberg can get a $4.5M offer sheet, the fax machine of Swayman's agent must sound like a pinball machine in the 80s.

Broberg got that amount because it was the highest salary possible with a low compensation.

To sign Swayman a team is going to have to give up their next 4 1st rounders.

 

[Ivo]

I hope Montreal offer sheets him at like 10; Bruins match . Everyone loses

2 firsts, a second and a third from a bad team sound like a decent compensation for a goalie. Might be just what the Bruins need to restock for another successful run. Of course, after trading Ullmark, the season would be a tough one without Swayman.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Broberg got that amount because it was the highest salary possible with a low compensation.

To sign Swayman a team is going to have to give up their next 4 1st rounders.

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

And who has the cap space, the need for a starting goalie, and enough confidence that their 1st won't be a lottery pick to make that kind of offer?

 

[wintersej]

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

Which are offers the Bruins would match. That was his point. The Bruins have a 8.6 in space available and can make it 9.6 by sending down Max Jones and running 13 forwards and 7 D.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I doubt this happened.

They needed to trade Ullmark, because Swayman was their guy. They did not have the luxury to hold on to Ullmark, because the market for him was limited. Had they waited to move him, Ottawa could have moved on. The fact that Boston only got a late 1st while having to take Korpisalo should show you how limited their leverage already was.

Not to mention, Ullmark could have added Ottawa to his trade list on July 1st. This would have given him and his agent complete control over the situation, because they could have said we only want to go to Ottawa with an above market-value extension in place, or we want to play out the season in Boston and won't waive for the 1-2 teams we know wanted Ullmark that we now added to our list.

Ullmark apparently did not have Ottawa on his list because with Ottawa adding Korpisalo last year, burning a spot on Ottawa didn't make sense. That isn't to say he was upset about going to Ottawa, but it would only be logical to assume that he would add Ottawa to his list on July 1st because it would only further add to his leverage.

The short of it is that they had to move Ullmark when they did. They chose Swayman, and the market for Ullmark was limited and challenging.

I'm starting to think that they should have kept Ullmark and traded Swayman, given Ullmark's insistence on remaining in the East limited the Bruin's trading partners and severely hurt their trade return.

Ullmark is older but is a similar quality goalie to Swayman. He only costs 5M and dealing Swayman wouldn't have required a cap dump like Korpisalo going back the other way. Ullmark also only costs 5M this year, while Swayman could cost a lot more.

Had they dealt Swayman instead they'd likely have around 5M or so in cap space (assuming Swayman costs 7-8M to lock up long-term and subtracting Korpisalo's 3M) and could have added a nice forward in free agency/trade, not to mention getting a lot more futures in return for Swayman than the mere late 1st they got for Ullmark.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

And who has the cap space, the need for a starting goalie, and enough confidence that their 1st won't be a lottery pick to make that kind of offer?

Depends how teams see Swayman. With goalies, it isn't that easy to predict performances long term. I think he has franchise player potential that is worth an unprotected pick under the right circumstances.

The cap space is an issue for certain teams but if your offer somehow isn't matched and you get a player of that quality, you celebrate and make the deals to get under the cap.

Besides, teams like CBJ can probably afford him right now.

 

[wintersej]

I'm starting to think that they should have kept Ullmark and traded Swayman, given Ullmark's insistence on remaining in the East limited the Bruin's trading partners and severely hurt their trade return.

Ullmark is older but is a similar quality goalie to Swayman. He only costs 5M and dealing Swayman wouldn't have required a cap dump like Korpisalo going back the other way. Ullmark also only costs 5M this year, while Swayman could cost a lot more.

Had they dealt Swayman instead they'd likely have around 5M or so in cap space (assuming Swayman costs 7-8M to lock up long-term and subtracting Korpisalo's 3M) and could have added a nice forward in free agency/trade, not to mention getting a lot more futures in return for Swayman than the mere late 1st they got for Ullmark.

I think before Swayman stole the net in the playoffs, this was on the table. But, it sure gets hard to sell it to yourself and especially the fan base after that. When a goalie shows he has “it” and there are very much questions around how well Ullmark handles the playoff pressure, it sure it hard outside of the white room to make that kind of move.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

Ottawa has the chance to do the funniest thing and steal Boston's tandem or force them into a deal they don't want

 

[BostonBob]

Ottawa has the chance to do the funniest thing and steal Boston's tandem or force them into a deal they don't want

Oh man - that really would be so funny !!!!!!!

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

Would the Bruins match 10M?

 

[Michoulicious]

I think, if he was willing to sign that contract, he would already be signed by the Bruins.

He's gonna cost MORE THAN THAT???

Ouch. Not touching that then. He's good, but he's no Vasi/Price/Lundqvist.

 

[SPV]

Lol. No.

Swayman is not getting a $11,452,295 contract offer. That's what it takes to get four 1st rounders.

The offers he would be most likely be receiving are in the $6,871,374 - $9,161,834 bracket, which has one 1st-round picks, one 2nd-round pick and one 3rd-round pick compensation.

I think Boston would match anything up to that bracket without issue, the next bracket would be interesting. Not many teams have that cap space, a goalie need, and their own picks to make the offer sheet above 9.2. Swayman has never played a full starter’s role for a whole season. That’s a big risk to give up all those picks and be stuck with a monster contract if he can’t handle the load.