GDT: The Blue Note @ Your NJ Devils, 1/5/2023

[Dylan9z9]

19 shots allowed. 4 high danger.

If they averaged that for the season, they'd be the best defensive team in NHL history.

I said the goaltending wasn't good but if a team like the Blues scores 4 goals on 18 shots neither is your defense

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I’m still very pissed about this one but holy shit Carolina just lost a game where they outshot NSH 67 to 25 lol. I can’t imagine sitting through that.

 

[NJDevs26]

TBH if Schmid had to make 30-35 saves, maybe we aren't slagging him as much on the goals, but when you have twelve shots allowed in two periods, maybe three high-danger chances and you're tied after two when you have like ten high-danger chances, it's deflating and annoying.

Yes being goalied is a function of bad offense but you'd also like your goalie to make a handful of saves if that's all that's required.

 

[Lou is God]

Ruff's loyalty to certain players will be this team's undoing.

Haula sunk us tonight.

 

[billingtons ghost]

serious question- if the teams switched goalies tonight, who would have won?

Don't know. If Binnington gives up the first one on Kyrou as he certainly would have bc it was an impossible tip, we may have seen the Binnington that they've been trying to bury for years.

Because that's how goalies work. Especially fragile ones.

 

[Bleedred]

All we needed was one tonight. Again, I hate harping on Schmid because he just got called up today. Wish we could have put Vitek in there tonight but that would have likely meant Schmid against the Rangers in a big division game.

It's hard to say if Vitek stops at least one of those or not. I'm pretty confident he would have in a game that didn't take place the next night after his last game, but who knows with the back to back? And the fact that last night was a heavy-ish workload on him.

Goalies not named Martin Brodeur typically don't play as well on the second night in a row.

But it's also not out of the question that he couldn't have come out and stopped 1 or 2 of these either.

Definitely his weakest NHL game of the year and it's not really something that's isolated right now, as he's been pretty poor in the AHL since being returned.

 

[NJDevs26]

I’m still very pissed about this one but holy shit Carolina just lost a game where they outshot NSH 67 to 25 lol. I can’t imagine sitting through that.

I heard about the shot total, I didn't even think to look if Carolina won, I assumed they had. If it was one of our games, I would have immediately asked 'but did they win?' lol

 

[britdevil]

For what it's worth, I still don't believe Schmid is the worst goalie of the 3 we've played this year. At most it's a tie between him and Blackwood for who the worse goalie is at the NHL level.

But Schmid is currently in his worst stretch of the season since that last start he got against Florida before he was sent down. He had a couple blowout games in the AHL since being returned.

Not sure if he'll be NHL ready next year. It's safer than paying Blackwood his qualifying offer and having him here for a million a year, but is it the best we could do for next year besides Vitek? Probably not.

He needs to get his game together in the AHL right now. And you just ride Vanecek until the wheels fall off. He should play every game this month that isn't a back to back. I think there's 2 more back to backs this month? I think he should play all but those 2 and MAYBE one other random game goes to whoever happens to be on the roster as the other goalie.

I feel for the kid. Called up and put in the starters net in one day.

f*** me I really hate Blackwood.

 

[Devs3cups]

I said the goaltending wasn't good but if a team like the Blues scores 4 goals on 18 shots neither is your defense

19 shots allowed, 4 high danger chances against does not equal to a bad played defensive game. There were some breakdowns, like every team, in every game.

Getting all those looks and getting stoned by goalies while every single high danger chance against goes in the back of our net is getting f***ing tiring.

 

[Eggtimer]

I honestly understand that. My problem with it is that things like that happen multiple times a game for both teams on the ice. A few guys had wide open looks for us (way more than the Blues) and Binnington made the saves.

Like every NHL team, in every NHL game. Breakdowns are part of the game and for how many we gave up tonight, we should’ve won. Blues gave up WAY more than we did.

I know but the chances we gave up were stupid high quality .Like others have said , we gave them way too much time right in the slot in perfect scoring position with way too much time.

 

[Dylan9z9]

serious question- if the teams switched goalies tonight, who would have won?

Binnington is also a bad goaltender didn't he give up fi e goals in their last game?

 

[billingtons ghost]

TBH if Schmid had to make 30-35 saves, maybe we aren't slagging him as much on the goals, but when you have twelve shots allowed in two periods, maybe three high-danger chances and you're tied after two periods when you have like ten high-danger chances, it's deflating and annoying.

I would happily have traded 10 hdsc that Binnington saved if I get to select them for the Kyrou goal.

 

[Bleedred]

I feel for the kid. Called up and put in the starters net in one day.

f*** me I really hate Blackwood.

The goaltending might be the death knell this year.

If Lindy is really feeling the heat he's gonna lean on Vitek.

I really don't wanna find out if he'll hesitate to throw Blackwood into a random game like he did on Sunday, because it probably means that we're on a long losing streak if he does. He pulled that shit the very next game after a win. Not sure he does that if it's a loss, unless Vitek gets blown up in the loss.

 

[Better Call Sal]

 

[Devs3cups]

I know but the chances we gave up were stupid high quality .Like others have said , we gave them way too much time right in the slot in perfect scoring position with way too much time.

We got stupid high quality chances where we got stoned.

The 2 saves on Tatar right in front of the net (in the 1st and 3rd) were way harder saves to make than the first 2 goals on Schmid, and that’s just off the top of my head. There were more.

 

[NJDevs26]

Binnington is also a bad goaltender didn't he give up fi e goals in their last game?

That's the other thing that's annoying...if this was f***ing Sorokin or the Russian god in NY at least you could excuse it by saying well great goaltending shut us down. When it's a guy with Blackwood numbers? Then maybe the issue isn't who plays goal against us.

 

[Eggtimer]

I'm just about done with Bahl

At least this season.

And I've actually been a huge fan and supporter of his, after thinking he was gonna be a big nothing after his first couple of call ups to the NHL.

But he may just be another Santini.

I've always been skeptical that he'd ever be a long term top-6 defenseman here, if not anywhere in the league.

I don’t see the benefit of a huge D man like him that doesn’t hit and is really physical. Yes he has a long reach which is good for defending but still . Show just a little bit of snarl every once in awhile . Like Okhotiuk does.

 

[Tundra]

Binnington is also a bad goaltender didn't he give up fi e goals in their last game?

Binnington hasn't played well in the Regular Season the last two seasons, but his play in the playoffs last season was excellent. In fact, the Blues may have beaten the Avs if Kadri didn't run him.

 

[billingtons ghost]

It's hard to say if Vitek stops at least one of those or not. I'm pretty confident he would have in a game that didn't take place the next night after his last game, but who knows with the back to back? And the fact that last night was a heavy-ish workload on him.

Goalies not named Martin Brodeur typically don't play as well on the second night in a row.

But it's also not out of the question that he couldn't have come out and stopped 1 or 2 of these either.

Definitely his weakest NHL game of the year and it's not really something that's isolated right now, as he's been pretty poor in the AHL since being returned.

The one before he went down was rougher, imho.

 

[NJDevs26]

Binnington hasn't played well in the Regular Season the last two seasons, but his play in the playoffs last season was excellent. In fact, the Blues may have beaten the Avs if Kadri didn't run him.

Latter-day Chris Osgood lol, only plays well in the playoffs - well an Osgood with an attitude issue too.

 

[billingtons ghost]

19 shots allowed, 4 high danger chances against does not equal to a bad played defensive game. There were some breakdowns, like every team, in every game.

Getting all those looks and getting stoned by goalies while every single high danger chance against goes in the back of our net is getting f***ing tiring.

As we've seen a ton of times, we can play 59:00 of perfect defensive hockey and then pack four or five good breakdowns into a change that sink us.

 

[Devs3cups]

That's the other thing that's annoying...if this was f***ing Sorokin or the Russian god in NY at least you could excuse it by saying well great goaltending shut us down. When it's a guy with Blackwood numbers? Then maybe the issue isn't who plays goal against us.

Mac played a huge game against the Panthers, it doesn’t make him a good goalie.

“Bad goalies have great games” - @Bleedred

 

[Bleedred]

The one before he went down was rougher, imho.

He gave up a weak one off his glove, but I thought he was otherwise okay in that game.

I think Dano originally didn't like one of the other goals that looked like it floated in from distance, but it turned out to be tipped pretty close in front.

 

[guitarguyvic]

The team obviously has a lot of potential, we saw it in those first 25 games. But now the sample size on some of the negative stuff like lack of finishing poise, average goaltending, and penchant for mental errors in the neutral and defensive zone is growing. I still think the reality of what this team is, is somewhere in the middle. Likely a team with enough talent and potential to dominate games as a collective, but just not quite talented or mature enough yet to get more wins even when they "deserve" it.

The early season success may have gotten us all ahead of ourselves on this team, but still great progress so far. I think it's also been clear for a while now that Lindy is not the guy to carry them through to the next phase. His play style has worked for this team very well, but he has major shortcomings that I think are part of the many little things stopping this team from winning more.

 

[glenwo2]

We never should've sent Akira back down.

It messed up his flow and the struggles he had down there returned with him.

Only saving grace is that the Canes all lost in Regulation.

Hopefully the other scores stand up so the Isles and Pens lose.


God, I hate having to depend on other teams.....smh.