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Bonzai12

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So what was it then?

I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a bluff by North Korea - i.e. information came out that a missile was coming or being launched and it didn’t happen.

Maybe it’s a conspiracy theory but there’s been some really weird stuff going on lately. About a month ago someone showed a video on YouTube of a long lighted thing flying over Denver - it was taken about 3am or so. It looked like a UFO and the military admitted they were doing some sort of testing. The YouTube videos been taken down since then. I should find the article on that one - was definitely weird.
 

UncleRisto

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I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a bluff by North Korea - i.e. information came out that a missile was coming or being launched and it didn’t happen.

Maybe it’s a conspiracy theory but there’s been some really weird stuff going on lately. About a month ago someone showed a video on YouTube of a long lighted thing flying over Denver - it was taken about 3am or so. It looked like a UFO and the military admitted they were doing some sort of testing. The YouTube videos been taken down since then. I should find the article on that one - was definitely weird.
You talking about the Spacex Flying Sperm?
 

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So I've been thinking of changing career paths to computers, my BSc in Bio even though it's from a good uni is mostly useless and I don't like the possibilities here. I don't think I have the aptitude for something computer programming related but I've been thinking more about computer science or one of the 2-3 year co-op college degree programs we have in Ontario.

Only thing is that there's so many that it's a bit overwhelming to figure out what you'll be able to do and what the job market for it will be. I'm also gonna be almost 10 years behind the ball on all these 18 year old high-school grads, I have no computer background outside of being able to use 2-D stuff on Autocad and Photoshop for some graphic design but even that was years ago.
 

Bonzai12

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My wife has a CIS degree. She codes and mostly does front end stuff (dashboards, web pages, etc). She does dabble in backend and likes that side of coding better. But she is kicking herself for not getting enough math to really understand the back end coding.

It’s a great career though. She gets job offers all the time through LinkedIn. I will say though that computer science is sometimes looked at as equal to CIS at companies but most of the time computer science trumps CIS for the most pay and best jobs.

I’ve been thinking about going back to school myself for coding. I’m 41 and I am thinking about either teaching myself through coursera or doing formal education. It is very possible to go through free university these days and self-teach and get a job if you learn how to code that way.
 
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agentblack

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Im sure most of the board dont want to get into the whole sex harassment /metoo debate but i just had to get my thoughts out
I cant help but feel like Aziz Ansari never in a million years would ever think his sexual quirks would be known around the world ,lol ugh.
 

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I'm kind of on the fence about the whole Ansari harassment claim. He was being a pig but she never flat out said no, and continued to go along with it.
 

agentblack

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Yeah there is a bit of calling him out for being aggressively gross, it isnt so much harrassment imo but it is apart of the convo the straights are having right now

but also damn. are straight dudes that aggressive with women,?
 

UncleRisto

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The article goes on for days, what the hell.

All the more reason to dislike Aziz Ansari, I guess. That guy is seriously not funny at all.

The account fits Ansari's annoying f*** face personality to a tee, not surprised at all.

Lastly, and I'm sure I'll get schooled about sexual coercion and I don't condone his actions, but as far as I see it, if no one's shoving a **** down your throat, and also you don't want to suck ****, 1+1= it would seem no ****-sucking should take place. Like seriously, what's the end game there for the chick?
 

agentblack

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I just find it fascinating that from her pov its like oh we're doing this now ,ok. And i think that resonates for alot of women who all of a sudden find a dudes fingers in their whatever. From his pov its a normal part of the date even though there was no indication that things should have progressed that rapidly.
 

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I think there's a mindset that they can't say no without the risk of being physically assaulted, so they just go along with it. At least that's what a pair of my female friends say.

I'm sure there are some animalistic guys like that, but I dunno I feel like it's a vicious circle of if that's the way you view every single dude then it's just going to lead to more cases of doing something you don't want to do, whereas if you stand up for yourself and say HEY get the f*** off me... they will. And the more you do that the more comfortable you'll be about saying no.
 
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henchman21

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I haven't read through the Ansari thing yet, so I can't comment on that.

It is kind of weird as a guy to know where things are falling anymore. Most women I have dated over the past few years want the man to make the first sexual move and to be the aggressor during the situation. They also don't tend to like a guy asking if what his is doing is okay all that time. Yeah there are non-verbal clues... but expecting the subtle ones to always get through is expecting a little much IMO. I know I have defaulted towards not being aggressive at all at the beginning and that is a turn off to many women... but better to be safe there than for it to turn into an issue down the line. What has been considered normal for years is being transitioned into pressure that leads to harassment (and that is likely the right thing to transition to)... but we need to move towards it being more acceptable for men to be less aggressive in sexual situations, not just from a harassment standpoint, but an overall standpoint in a relationship. IE don't expect a guy to be willing to choke you the first time you have sex in today's day and age.
 

UncleRisto

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I think there's a mindset that they can't say no without the risk of being physically assaulted, so they just go along with it. At least that's what a pair of my female friends say.

I'm sure there are some animalistic guys like that, but I dunno I feel like it's a vicious circle of if that's the way you view every single dude then it's just going to lead to more cases of doing something you don't want to do, whereas if you stand up for yourself and say HEY get the **** off me... they will. And the more you do that the more comfortable you'll be about saying no.
Yeah I get the reasoning and I don't mean to demean it.

As a guy though, it's very difficult to wrap my head around a situation where a 5'6 obvious douchebag from a mile away whips their dick out and you go: "I shouldn't leave. Let's chill. I'll just suck it for a minute."
 

agentblack

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But see this is my issue with this, is why arent straight men and women having blunt conversation about what each other wants and expects sexually? So much of the Ansari situation could have been fixed if they just talked about it beforehand.
Is this just not done with you guys? Do men and women just assume stuff and then bam ..sex. I dont get it.
 

henchman21

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But see this is my issue with this, is why arent straight men and women having blunt conversation about what each other wants and expects sexually? So much of the Ansari situation could have been fixed if they just talked about it beforehand.
Is this just not done with you guys? Do men and women just assume stuff and then bam ..sex. I dont get it.

I don't disagree with that notion in the least, but I have found it is one of the quicker ways to ruin a moment and end the beginnings of a relationship. Say it is the 2nd or 3rd date and there has been limited or no intimacy (say a kiss) and the guy invites the woman back... then has that blunt conversation about sex... it not only probably ruins it for that night, but likely in general.
 

UncleRisto

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But see this is my issue with this, is why arent straight men and women having blunt conversation about what each other wants and expects sexually? So much of the Ansari situation could have been fixed if they just talked about it beforehand.
Is this just not done with you guys? Do men and women just assume stuff and then bam ..sex. I dont get it.
I thought this was simple. You complete a lengthy scavenger hunt, and at the end there is sex if you can solve a riddle.
 

agentblack

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I don't disagree with that notion in the least, but I have found it is one of the quicker ways to ruin a moment and end the beginnings of a relationship. Say it is the 2nd or 3rd date and there has been limited or not intimacy (say a kiss) and the guy invites the woman back... then has that blunt conversation about sex... it not only probably ruins it for that night, but likely in general.

Thats too bad. But i see what your saying, i think this frank convo is what scares both sides off but in this day and age its badly needed. In my world its a little too frank but at least i know what im getting into. lol
 

henchman21

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Thats too bad. But i see what your saying, i think this frank convo is what scares both sides off but in this day and age its badly needed. In my world its a little too frank but at least i know what im getting into. lol

I completely agree. To me, having a clear conversation on the matter can save a lot of heartache if both parties are willing to engage in that. Hopefully this is where the world heads.
 

UncleRisto

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A lot of girls seem to have this idea that they're being a slut unless they make you read these tiny cues and do all of the legwork. A lot of the time I'll just fade cause I don't feel like doing that. (Other times I just miss the cues, lol.)
 
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