The Atlantic Division

[nobody]

excuses?

lets see how Leafs would fair vs the Bruisn if they were Missing Kadri, Marner, JVR and had both Matthews and Nylander nursing injuries.....

LOL

I'm out. You just compared Kadri Marner JVR to Backes, Krejci and Spooner. I don't know what to say anymore. Please just stop. You're way past embarrassing yourself at this point.

And we don't have to imagine Matthews nursing an injury. He was out for that game.

Awful awful post. Can you please just let @BruinLVGA be your spokesperson for this thread? Thanks

 

[BruinLVGA]

@BruinLVGA needs to realize that every season has its high and lows. Bruins started cold, had a ridiculous hot streak and now have seemed to normalize a bit. Tampa started hot, went cold, and have now normalized a bit. The Leafs started hot, had a terrible cold streak, and are now hot again. The season is a marathon and not a sprint. If they are the same team as their hot streak come seasons end, then yes they are on a different tier. But it is more likely than not that Boston starts losing games (not significantly so, but they wont go regulation undefeated for 20 odd games). They are entering the hard part of their schedule. Their young players may start slowing down down the stretch as they arent used to the length of an NHL schedule, mainly McAvoy who only played 42 games last season.

I do realize. It's you guys who don't.

We have been at a 1) 138 pts pace for the past 25 games... 2) at a 133 points pace for the past 37 games... 3) we are on a season pace of 115 points for the season.
Furthermore, we basically sustained pace #3 for the past 81 games (698 pts% or 114 points), which is the whole tenure of Cassidy (started in early February 2017).

You somehow seem to think that I am suggesting that we keep up with pace #1 or #2. I am NOT.
I am suggesting that pace #3 is feasible because we upheld it for one season worth of games.

The Leafs pts% is MUCH lower (trivia: best pts% ever in a season for the Leafs is 679, in 1950/51). So, maybe it's not THAT far fetched to think that the Bruins current sustained level of 698 over 81 games is a tier above the current Leafs. Is it not?

Is this clearer?

 

[BruinLVGA]

I made a post about their record this season vs teams in 3rd game of a 3 in 4 nights. In their losses, they've been outscored 11-24. They're not good in those games. I don't know why you're having such a hard time understanding a simple thing.

A team 7-0, 32-12 gf/ga is a team at the top of its capabilities and they got dominated by a team without his most elite producer. It's not some magic spell.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Krejci >>>> Kadri (and yes Krejci is that much better aka two time"Playoff" point leader)
Spooner < Marner
Backes < JVR

Yes that right... i shouldn't be comparing a two times playoff scoring leader to Kadri... it is quite the joke




seems like you have only been watching hockey for a couples years......

 

[CauZuki]

I do realize. It's you guys who don't.

We have been at a 1) 138 pts pace for the past 25 games... 2) at a 133 points pace for the past 37 games... 3) we are on a season pace of 115 points for the season.
Furthermore, we basically sustained pace #3 for the past 81 games (698 pts% or 114 points), which is the whole tenure of Cassidy (started in early February 2017).

You somehow seem to think that I am suggesting that we keep up with pace #1 or #2. I am NOT.
I am suggesting that pace #3 is feasible because we upheld it for one season worth of games.

The Leafs pts% is MUCH lower (trivia: best pts% ever in a season for the Leafs is 679, in 1950/51). So, maybe it's not THAT far fetched to think that the Bruins current sustained level of 698 over 81 games is a tier above the current Leafs. Is it not?

Is this clearer?

It's especially funny when every other team will normalize , but I don't seem to see any indication that the poster applied the "normalization effect" to his own team.

Tampa and Bruins are having a better season than Toronto , it's pretty obvious to see , that doesn't mean Toronto is having a bad season.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Tampa is a cup contender and a top team in the league. That said, the Leafs have no excuse for today's game. Win or lose it should be competitive.

So are the Bruins. They've proven this over the past 3 months of sustained play. 2nd in the NHL in W%

 

[nobody]

A team 7-0, 32-12 gf/ga is a team at the top of its capabilities and they got dominated by a team without his most elite producer. It's not some magic spell.

Again, you use numbers but have 0 clue. It's impressive actually. I'm looking at a 5 month trend. Not a hot streak that came to a halt for the time being.

Also the Leafs were 4-0 going into that game outscoring teams 16-3. But don't let facts get in your way.

Also the Leafs were 1-5 before going on the 4 game winning streak.

Also those records combined would make the Leafs 5-5 in their past 10 before going into the game vs. the Bruins. TOP OF THEIR GAME!!! Elite.

 

[nobody]

So are the Bruins. They've proven this over the past 3 months of sustained play. 2nd in the NHL in W%

Notice how the post was about the Leafs and the Tampa game. Having absolutely nothing to do with the Bruins. Yet you managed to put the Bruins in there for no absolute reason. Are you really that desperate? Or maybe you think the Leafs are playing the Tampa Bay LightBruins. My bad.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Notice how the post was about the Leafs and the Tampa game. Having absolutely nothing to do with the Bruins. Yet you managed to put the Bruins in there for no absolute reason. Are you really that desperate?

I am not sure if you are paying attention this morning. TB and Boston were prefaced many times in this thread as the top tier teams. Both are Atlantic div teams so what am I am specifically desperate on?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Krejci >>>> Kadri (and yes Krejci is that much better aka two time"Playoff" point leader)
Spooner < Marner
Backes < JVR

Yes that right... i shouldn't be comparing a two times playoff scoring leader to Kadri... it is quite the joke




seems like you have only been watching hockey for a couples years......

this is too funny

 

[BayStreetBully]

Boston is a good team and a Big 3 Atlantic member, but my concern is they are old. While it’s true they have veteran experience, the playoffs are a grind of 4 series before you win a cup. They may have fresh legs in the first round or two, but I’m not so sure they can keep up with other teams who are more in their prime or on the upswing.

What this means is Boston is a great regular season team, maybe great first round team, but after that maybe they get progressively less effective. And the results up to date so far reflect this.

Looking at the other members of the Big 3, Tampa looks to be a top contender and Toronto is probably in between Tampa and Boston, and needs one more year to truly become big cheese.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Krejci >>>> Kadri (and yes Krejci is that much better aka two time"Playoff" point leader)
Spooner < Marner
Backes < JVR

Yes that right... i shouldn't be comparing a two times playoff scoring leader to Kadri... it is quite the joke




seems like you have only been watching hockey for a couples years......

this is too funny

oh so Kadri is better than Krejci? One good season Kadri? right.....

 

[Cor]

Krejci >>>> Kadri (and yes Krejci is that much better aka two time"Playoff" point leader)
Spooner < Marner
Backes < JVR

Yes that right... i shouldn't be comparing a two times playoff scoring leader to Kadri... it is quite the joke




seems like you have only been watching hockey for a couples years......

So you think Krejci is >>>> better than Kadri, but that Marner is only > better than Spooner? Not too mention the fact that JVR has 1 less goal than Backes does points, this year.

(Also, Krejci is at most > than Kadri. They are actually quite comparable as of right now. Krejci being a playoff point leader years ago doesn't really matter right now)

 

[BostonBruins11]

So you think Krejci is >>>> better than Kadri, but that Marner is only > better than Spooner? Not too mention the fact that JVR has 1 less goal than Backes does points, this year.

(Also, Krejci is at most > than Kadri. They are actually quite comparable as of right now. Krejci being a playoff point leader years ago doesn't really matter right now)

in all fairness i was trying to add more "p>

and Healthy again yes Krejci is back to himself (61pts pace) (fyi just had back to back hip surgeries over the last 2 seasons). Krejci has posted 7 50 pts+ season's vs Kadri's 2

and as for the Playoffs, Krejci's only had 1 bad playoff season

 

[nobody]

The Jets imo don't belong on that tier. The Bruins right now are better than the Jets. And the Leafs are pretty well on par with Winnipeg too.

The Pens based on this season alone don't either, but they've got the weight of the last 2 seasons behind them, so I'll let it slide.

I don't really care about who's in what tier honestly. I don't think the Leafs are in cup contention quite yet and the team I really want to see pull through this year are the Blues. They deserve a cup.

 

[Sypher04]

in all fairness i was trying to add more "p>

and Healthy again yes Krejci is back to himself (61pts pace) (fyi just had back to back hip surgeries over the last 2 seasons). Krejci has posted 7 50 pts+ season's vs Kadri's 2

and as for the Playoffs, Krejci's only had 1 bad playoff season

I think the issue taken with Kadri vs Krejci was about how wide you put the gap between them, not necessarily the idea that Krejci is the better player right now. Combined with the single use of > on both JVR/Marner comparisons to Backes/Spooner.

It is entirely arguable that the difference between JVR>Backes and Marner>Spooner are both larger than Krejci>Kadri.

Also, fair to point out, Kadri may have 5 less 50+ seasons... but he's also 4 years younger.

 

[BostonBruins11]

I think the issue taken with Kadri vs Krejci was about how wide you put the gap between them, not necessarily the idea that Krejci is the better player right now. Combined with the single use of > on both JVR/Marner comparisons to Backes/Spooner.

It is entirely arguable that the difference between JVR>Backes and Marner>Spooner are both larger than Krejci>Kadri.

Also, fair to point out, Kadri may have 5 less 50+ seasons... but he's also 4 years younger.

Thank you for the civilized response.

Like i said i wanted to add more < towards Marner and JVR. but for some reason when i post more than 1 < it post blanks

ex: p>

 

[BostonBruins11]

Thank you for the civilized response.

Like i said i wanted to add more < towards Marner and JVR. but for some reason when i post more than 1 < it post blanks

ex: p>

the ex: p> i actually posted 5 time p>


edit: ok this isn't working.

what i tried to post originally (hopefully this works)

Krejci>>>>>> Kadri
Marner>>>>Spooner
JVR>>> Backes

 

[Sypher04]

Thank you for the civilized response.

Like i said i wanted to add more < towards Marner and JVR. but for some reason when i post more than 1 < it post blanks

ex: p>

Probably easier to just invert the names.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Probably easier to just invert the names.

yep, just did, look at the post above, i just edited.

 

[Sypher04]

yep, just did, look at the post above, i just edited.

I'd personally take a few away from Kadri vs Krejci, and add another to JVR vs Backes, but w/e

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Krejci and Bergeron are in their early 30's. This is not dissimilar to Crosby and Malkin.

As long as these 2 are healthy why are the Bruins considered old and Pens not. I see a lot of similarities with both rosters. Exp cup winners, sprinkled with young vets and youth. If the Pens can win the cup this year, the Bruins could as well. Comes down to health. The quality is there for both.

 

[BruinLVGA]

No one here is claiming they are cup contenders, champ. It's a few Bruins fans thumping their chest over beating the Leafs in a game that the Leafs almost always manage to get killed in. You want to see true domination? Go watch the Leafs games vs @Blues and @VGK. Leafs got absolutely wrecked. The Bruins win wasn't even half as impressive as those ass kickings. Leafs fans have seen a ton of beatings, we know when we're being bested by a superior team vs when we're getting thumped because the team didn't show up.

So you got wrecked by STL, VGK, BOS... Then Nashville laid siege to you guys recently to the point that Andersen had close to 50 shots... Seems about right that you say that the Leafs are in the same tier as Tampa and Boston. Not.

 

[Razz]

Before we all wave our respective appendages around, perhaps we should wait until the season ends? There's lots of games left to be played.

 

[bionic]

So are the Bruins. They've proven this over the past 3 months of sustained play. 2nd in the NHL in W%

Agreed The Bruins led by there vets and outstanding goaltending are having a phenomenal season. They ate for sure cup contenders and will be hard to beat. ....but the Leafs are not going to be any pushovers either. It's going to be a hell of a playoff series no matter who they play.