Yeah, the Angels starters have been fine this season. They're 13th as a group with a 3.9 ERA. If you go by WAR, they're 10th. Considering the offense was supposed to be the strength of the team, and they did lead the league in runs for April, that should have been more than enough to grap a wildcard spot. But since mid-May when the wheels fell off, they're dead last in runs scored.
The Angels are an absolute disaster
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Decades, really?
Just have to go back to mid 10's to find a pretty good rotation for Angels
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Angels are one of the most puzzling teams around the league. Some of the most elite talent the sport has ever seen in Trout and now Ohtani and consistently one of the worst teams. They should blow it all up and start from scratch. Mets will take Ohtani off your hands
Voight
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Yea they had a couple years where Weaver/Wilson/Richards was a decent group.
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MMC
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I mean as a fan I can’t stand the way this team handles pitching but that’s just not true
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KevFu
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I don't know all the details with the Angels, but it seems like ownership hasn't investing in scouting/analytics so the Angels chase NAMES and not RESULTS.
The Angels and the Mets under the WIlpon family are basically the same franchise. The Mets would go get a "name" player to try and win the backpages of the papers instead of putting together the best ballclub possible; and the result was a lot of mediocrity; and anytime they'd be decent -- like 83-85 wins, they'd make stupid moves that sacrificed their future.
Angels remind me a lot of THAT. It's never the elite players signing huge contracts that kill you. It's the second tier contracts that kill you. Guys like Chris Davis on a 7-year contract, or Rendon.
The good teams will give the elite guys huge money and then do shorter contracts on the pretty good tier to avoid mistakes; while completely ignoring guys who want more money than they're worth. You can replace Syndergaard's production for half the price, so the Mets (now under new leadership) totally DID, getting Tajuan Walker and Chris Bassitt for each less than half Thor's price tag.
The Angels and the Mets under the WIlpon family are basically the same franchise. The Mets would go get a "name" player to try and win the backpages of the papers instead of putting together the best ballclub possible; and the result was a lot of mediocrity; and anytime they'd be decent -- like 83-85 wins, they'd make stupid moves that sacrificed their future.
Angels remind me a lot of THAT. It's never the elite players signing huge contracts that kill you. It's the second tier contracts that kill you. Guys like Chris Davis on a 7-year contract, or Rendon.
The good teams will give the elite guys huge money and then do shorter contracts on the pretty good tier to avoid mistakes; while completely ignoring guys who want more money than they're worth. You can replace Syndergaard's production for half the price, so the Mets (now under new leadership) totally DID, getting Tajuan Walker and Chris Bassitt for each less than half Thor's price tag.
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The most funniest thing was when they fired DiPoto for being incompetent then his successor had the same results. Maybe it's not the GM that's the problem.
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and he constructed a winner in Seattle
the Angels are so bad they are essentially the 2000 Washington Football Team. Moreno is as bad as Snyder trying to buy championships (and FAILING!) and the team just doesn't make the playoffs
Moreno is also a gigantic meddler.
LightningStorm
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Moreno and the Wilpons do have a lot of bad things in common. One more thing to add, and related to them not investing in scouting, is how horrible the farm system has been for both teams. Mets farm system under Cohen has ascended tremendously.
Quid Pro Clowe
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1 season above .500 where they didn’t make the playoffs in a 2 wc league is hardly a ‘winner’ yet.and he constructed a winner in Seattle
the Angels are so bad they are essentially the 2000 Washington Football Team. Moreno is as bad as Snyder trying to buy championships (and FAILING!) and the team just doesn't make the playoffs
Moreno is also a gigantic meddler.
They’re set up to be one, but it’s not like Dipoto is some genius baseball mind.
By the way, as a Nats fan you shouldn’t make fun of the state of any franchise lol
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GIN ANTONIC
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You should think about not being a fan of them anymore maybe
FiveTacos
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To be fair, the franchise has given us some of the most memorable moments ever. There was that thrilling comeback in '02. Nolan Ryan's 4 no hitters. And who could forget when Enrico Pallazzo sang the national anthem, umpired the game, and then saved the Queen of England?
Unholy Diver
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That would have been a serious black eye on the US and certainly damaged diplomatic relations with a close ally, we were all Angels in the Outfield that day
