OT: The All-Purpose Video Game Thread

[ReggieDunlop68]

Story mode is not finished and unlocking all the new costumes and colors is unbelievably tedious. Challenge mode also non existent (so far). There is no single player arcade mode, there's only survival mode. It's like the Battlefront of fighting games. Extremely limited single player content but I feel like this just doesn't work for a fighting game.



It's just a new angle of marketing imo. The short-term hype for SFV skyrocketed when the best player in the world faced off against Lupe Fiasco on that livestream. Also, those popular letsplay games where people make millions to win like Dark Souls and CoD are to blame for this, it's pretty much what killed game journalism.

I just read the IGN article, and I see what you mean.

Furthermore, it definitely sounds as if they want to go into the pure e-sports realm. Again, I'm not against e-sports per se. The issue I have with them is when they become the primary focus of the game. Online multiplayer [in many different games] can be toxic already, so when you are playing people who are now "totally going pro one day", the Salt is unimaginable [i.e. low elo in LoL].

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Started playing diablo 3 a lot the last two weeks again. They've improved it significantly. If it was a 7/10 on release in my mind it's now an 8.5 or 9. Highly recommend it. Story/atmosphere is still a pile of trash though

 

[Ail]

Started playing diablo 3 a lot the last two weeks again. They've improved it significantly. If it was a 7/10 on release in my mind it's now an 8.5 or 9. Highly recommend it. Story/atmosphere is still a pile of trash though

Something they can never fix and thus in my opinion it will always be about a 5.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Started playing diablo 3 a lot the last two weeks again. They've improved it significantly. If it was a 7/10 on release in my mind it's now an 8.5 or 9. Highly recommend it. Story/atmosphere is still a pile of trash though

What has changed?

 

[Ail]

https://www.somethingclassic.net/shadows-of-adam/

Got the kickstarter funded! Looks to be a winner for classic jRPG fans.

 

[Raspewtin]

The problem with modern remakes or sequels is the attempts made to add modern gameplay elements on a classic series that was good because it was based on classic game elements. It worked early on in the evolution of game systems but people are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel, and the magic is rarely there.

Let's be real, there's a charm to certain old games that simply can't be brought back. It's why for every Shovel Knight, there's 20 kajillion "retro" indie games on Steam that are 2nd rate Metroidvania games using sprites that wouldn't look out of place in Super Mario 2. Who the hell these days wants to pick up games like FF7 and the old Resident Evil games if they didn't eat **** and breathe them growing up? I tried to get my younger brother to appreciate the first Silent Hill game and he wouldn't even give it a chance. So it's hard to blame these developers for trying to re-vitalize the classics and appeal to more than the niche nostalgia market. Even though we all know they're going to **** up what made FF7 great, we're buying it anyway.

Games like FF7 are unique though in just how badly that entire generation aged and how obsolete and unplayable some of those games are by modern standards.

 

[Ail]

Let's be real, there's a charm to certain old games that simply can't be brought back. It's why for every Shovel Knight, there's 20 kajillion "retro" indie games on Steam that are 2nd rate Metroidvania games using sprites that wouldn't look out of place in Super Mario 2. Who the hell these days wants to pick up games like FF7 and the old Resident Evil games if they didn't eat **** and breathe them growing up? I tried to get my younger brother to appreciate the first Silent Hill game and he wouldn't even give it a chance. So it's hard to blame these developers for trying to re-vitalize the classics and appeal to more than the niche nostalgia market. Even though we all know they're going to **** up what made FF7 great, we're buying it anyway.

Games like FF7 are unique though in just how badly that entire generation aged and how obsolete and unplayable some of those games are by modern standards.

I agree on most of this, but insofar as remakes go I think they need to stay true to the original outside of updated graphics and bringing the soundtrack up to a modern bitrate without killing the original composition. A lot of games from the era did age poorly but it also depends on the system. PC games for instance age very poorly comparatively imo because we often try to play classic games with lower resolutions on modern machines and nothing looks right. Diablo 1 off the top of my head looks 1x1 pixel wide compared to 20 years ago when 640x480 was still standard. On the other hand I can load any NES game emulated, or on an original console and it still has the same feel.

I disagree on certain games. I feel like FF7 aged well enough the problem is the difference between the idea of what these games have become. For instance, while I'm sure FFX is a great jRPG in its own right, I never bothered because it was too far removed from what a jRPG was in my mind. I'm sure kids who grew up on FFX probably would say the opposite.

Also, part of the reason for every ShovelKnight there are a dillion retro flops, is the writing and delivery. You still need a good story and gameplay to carry the retro feel. The market is saturated with games in general that look good but suck. That's part of why I am drawn to games where graphics are not the main focus because they have to try harder to make a compelling game. The new DOOM is an exception because that looks amazing.

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

I almost never play video games but I played Rocket League at a friends house the other night. What a simple, but awesome game. I am terrible but I scored a goal on a bicycle kick after knocking it off the wall, and hitting it in the air. I have no idea how I did it. It was amazing! Literally the ball hit my car perfectly 3 times. No skill involved. Pure luck.....

Rocket League might make me go out and buy a PS4. Does anybody play? It's ****ing great, right?

 

[Ail]

I almost never play video games but I played Rocket League at a friends house the other night. What a simple, but awesome game. I am terrible but I scored a goal on a bicycle kick after knocking it off the wall, and hitting it in the air. I have no idea how I did it. It was amazing! Literally the ball hit my car perfectly 3 times. No skill involved. Pure luck.....

Rocket League might make me go out and buy a PS4. Does anybody play? It's ****ing great, right?

It's not really my type of game but I almost bought it a few times just because of how fun it looks. It also reminds me of this old windows 98 game where you use a crude polygon vehicle to carry a ball around a large field and try to score goals with it. I loved that as a kid.

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

It's not really my type of game but I almost bought it a few times just because of how fun it looks. It also reminds me of this old windows 98 game where you use a crude polygon vehicle to carry a ball around a large field and try to score goals with it. I loved that as a kid.

That is exactly what the game feels like. It's hard to explain how much fun the game is, and I played it one night and I was terrible. Each match is 5 minutes, it's the perfect time limit. I was playing 2v2 and 3v3 mostly. I played one match 1v1 and lost 10-2 and got trolled the whole time, with "What a Save". It was so awesome!

 

[The Undertaker]

That is exactly what the game feels like. It's hard to explain how much fun the game is, and I played it one night and I was terrible. Each match is 5 minutes, it's the perfect time limit. I was playing 2v2 and 3v3 mostly. I played one match 1v1 and lost 10-2 and got trolled the whole time, with "What a Save". It was so awesome!

Lol I just got this game a few days ago and lost a 1v1 13-5.

 

[Gardner McKay]

That is exactly what the game feels like. It's hard to explain how much fun the game is, and I played it one night and I was terrible. Each match is 5 minutes, it's the perfect time limit. I was playing 2v2 and 3v3 mostly. I played one match 1v1 and lost 10-2 and got trolled the whole time, with "What a Save". It was so awesome!

I don't play Rocket League myself but a majority of the people on my PS4 friends list do. For me it is Black Ops 3, GTA V and then NHL/FIFA/MADDEN. I also do a lot of gaming through InsaneDifficulty as well as at least one run through a year of FF7, FF8, FFX, SO2 and SO3. But lately it has been nothing but Black Ops III.

I am still working on getting my live stream going for COD. We used to record our MLG matches back in the day for Black Ops I and MW3 but stopped when BO2 came out. Didn't do anything for Ghosts and never even touched Advanced Warfare. I have always wanted to do a consistent live stream of myself playing COD but was never at the point where I felt good enough to do it until BO3.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Rocket League is indeed tons of fun. Top game of 2015 with the Witcher 3 and Undertale for me for sure.

Streaming has changed the entire culture of gaming. I always am a little sad because I would've loved to stream as a 15 year old playing World of Warcraft and living in Ventrilo servers.

 

[Edge]

Still addicted to Syndicate - love the Victorian London setting.

Blues and Bullets has also surprised me (at least the first episode so far).

 

[Irishguy42]

Thinking about getting The Division when it comes out, but I don't know. I wish I could have gotten into the beta, but I don't have the time to really do much with it.

Guess I'll need to be okay with just watching streamers for the next couple of days.

I am a bit turned off by the bullet sponge model for combat though...

 

[Raspewtin]

I agree on most of this, but insofar as remakes go I think they need to stay true to the original outside of updated graphics and bringing the soundtrack up to a modern bitrate without killing the original composition. A lot of games from the era did age poorly but it also depends on the system. PC games for instance age very poorly comparatively imo because we often try to play classic games with lower resolutions on modern machines and nothing looks right. Diablo 1 off the top of my head looks 1x1 pixel wide compared to 20 years ago when 640x480 was still standard. On the other hand I can load any NES game emulated, or on an original console and it still has the same feel.

Oh man, as a 90's-00's PC master race guy this is so true. So many great games with horrawful frame rates and stretched looks. I had to buy a 2nd monitor with a significantly lower resolution to make any of these games playable, and even then some of them still run like garbage. Steam is a goldmine for games from my childhood like Strife, Blood, Outlaws, and Heretic/Hexen

The entire gaming community hates them but I love my Retron 5. It's a glorified emulation system but it upscales the graphics and sound about as well as possible without butchering it or making it feel fake. Even though, by design emulated versions of 8bit and some 16 bit games are clearly emulations with their strong color saturation and frame rates.

I disagree on certain games. I feel like FF7 aged well enough the problem is the difference between the idea of what these games have become. For instance, while I'm sure FFX is a great jRPG in its own right, I never bothered because it was too far removed from what a jRPG was in my mind. I'm sure kids who grew up on FFX probably would say the opposite.

Sure, certain games. I think the jRPG subgenre is mostly dead at this point. The last great one was FFX IMO and the series has simply tanked since then. XII was garbage and I haven't been convinced by any update since. The games that aged the best are the 2D hand drawn games from 1991-1996. Think Super Metroid to the Marvel vs. Capcom series. I recently played Dino Crisis on the PSX (which I LOVED as a kid) for the first time since I was like 10 and I simply couldn't play it. Awful awful awful controls and the entire graphic and sound interface aged absurdly poorly. But then there are games like FF7 that look like **** today but are just so damn good you just ignore it. I feel games like those super high res 2D games from 1994-1997 aged amazing while those early 3D games are simply unplayable today, especially in a gaming culture that won't pick up a game that looks like **** unless it's "retro". The problem is that there are like 5 FF7's that aged poorly but are still super fun to play by today's standards.

Also, part of the reason for every ShovelKnight there are a dillion retro flops, is the writing and delivery. You still need a good story and gameplay to carry the retro feel. The market is saturated with games in general that look good but suck. That's part of why I am drawn to games where graphics are not the main focus because they have to try harder to make a compelling game. The new DOOM is an exception because that looks amazing.

I am hyped for the new Doom in ways that can't be expressed. My favorite game series of all time.

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

You know, I used to be big time against spending the money to play online. When i had my 360 I was more than content playing off line, doing story modes and randomly playing online at other peoples houses. I got my XB1 so I decided to get Live, and I have to say I love it playing GTA online is so much fun.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

What has changed?

Depends when you stopped playing.

For me upon completion of Act V (expansion paid for by money I made from RMAH wooo) it opens up "adventure mode". There's this system called "bounties" all wp's across the whole game are opened and you're tasked with completing 5 bounties for each act. Fully completing an act gives you a cache of goodies. The drop rate for items is very reasonable (in the past I thought it was atrocious and apparently so did most folks).

Paragon leveling. You max out and then you get a blue experience bar and every time you fill it you get a point to put towards 1 of 4 sets of characteristics so you can level forever. There are these things called Nephalem Rifts but I haven't tried it yet. You auto skip all cutscenes and story so you don't have to have your time wasted. Definitely an 8.5 for me

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I almost never play video games but I played Rocket League at a friends house the other night. What a simple, but awesome game. I am terrible but I scored a goal on a bicycle kick after knocking it off the wall, and hitting it in the air. I have no idea how I did it. It was amazing! Literally the ball hit my car perfectly 3 times. No skill involved. Pure luck.....

Rocket League might make me go out and buy a PS4. Does anybody play? It's ****ing great, right?

only likw 20 bucks on steam for PC

 

[Ail]

Depends when you stopped playing.

For me upon completion of Act V (expansion paid for by money I made from RMAH wooo) it opens up "adventure mode". There's this system called "bounties" all wp's across the whole game are opened and you're tasked with completing 5 bounties for each act. Fully completing an act gives you a cache of goodies. The drop rate for items is very reasonable (in the past I thought it was atrocious and apparently so did most folks).

Paragon leveling. You max out and then you get a blue experience bar and every time you fill it you get a point to put towards 1 of 4 sets of characteristics so you can level forever. There are these things called Nephalem Rifts but I haven't tried it yet. You auto skip all cutscenes and story so you don't have to have your time wasted. Definitely an 8.5 for me

Nephalem Rifts are fun, and the gear drops are good, but once you reach a gear cap for a certain level rift it can become tedious and slow going finding upgrades.

 

[Loff]

Recently tried out some SNES games on an emulator. It's been awhile. I used to breeze through Donkey Kong, Star Fox and Super Star Wars as a kid.

Well, that's history. Those games are kicking my ass.

Nephalem Rifts are fun, and the gear drops are good, but once you reach a gear cap for a certain level rift it can become tedious and slow going finding upgrades.

Video nerd ™

#neverforget

 

[Ail]

Recently tried out some SNES games on an emulator. It's been awhile. I used to breeze through Donkey Kong, Star Fox and Super Star Wars as a kid.

Well, that's history. Those games are kicking my ass.




Video nerd â„¢

#neverforget

Lmfao videonerd4lyfe.

Yeah it is crazy how much harder console games were in general. Lots of pattern recognition or planning a strategy.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Recently tried out some SNES games on an emulator. It's been awhile. I used to breeze through Donkey Kong, Star Fox and Super Star Wars as a kid.

Well, that's history. Those games are kicking my ass.




Video nerd ™

#neverforget

Went back to a legit NES a few years back. last year I grabbed ahole (Edit ahold! lol) of Duck tales. I used to beat that thing without dying once as a kid. Now? I was RAGING hard at it because I kept dying. Eventually got the hang of it but it took a day or two.

What really makes me sad is up until the N64 I always played with the control upside down. It was just one of those things, with the NES control what's to stop a dumb kid from picking it up the wrong way? So I quickly adapted because it was all I ever knew. Up was down, down was up, etc. I could still do it in high school like riding a bike. I've since lost that skill which sucks.

When playing battletoads on the rare collection i was beating the 3rd board (always been boards to me, dunno why) with ease. Got up to 7 (maybe 6...the one with the snakes).As a kid I don't think I ever beat stage 4. So suck it kid, me
This old fogey can still game.

Was listening to Chris jericho's podcast. Both AJ Styles and Xavier woods had fantastic conversations about games with him

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Lmfao videonerd4lyfe.

Yeah it is crazy how much harder console games were in general. Lots of pattern recognition or planning a strategy.

It's really funny to watch kids who can do 50 rotations and land a field wide headshot lose their ****ing minds trying to play the early Mega Man games. It gives me a lot of pleasure. No save points, replays, or continues kiddo. Sooowwwwyyyy. Lol

 

[Loff]

Lmfao videonerd4lyfe.

Yeah it is crazy how much harder console games were in general. Lots of pattern recognition or planning a strategy.

Bring back that avatar.

2D sidescrollers are just hard and unforgiving. So many titles using 1 hit deaths. I remember my controller met the floor a bit too much during those days.

What really makes me sad is up until the N64 I always played with the control upside down. It was just one of those things, with the NES control what's to stop a dumb kid from picking it up the wrong way? So I quickly adapted because it was all I ever knew. Up was down, down was up, etc. I could still do it in high school like riding a bike. I've since lost that skill which sucks.

Hah, I never saw anybody use the controller like that. Sounds rough.