The Advanced Stats Thread Episode VI: RIP To Our Databases

[Filthy Dangles]

Member when we thought we were going to get Norris McDonagh since he'd be with Shattenkirk and not Girardi?

I 'member.

What a waste.

i don't really understand this post. McDonagh has been great, Shattenkirk not.

 

[Tawnos]

i don't really understand this post. McDonagh has been great, Shattenkirk not.

McDonagh's been struggling with the puck in the defensive zone.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

McDonagh's been struggling with the puck in the defensive zone.

If McDonagh has been struggling there i'd like to know what word we'd use to describe Shatty then

 

[Tawnos]

If McDonagh has been struggling there i'd like to know what word we'd use to describe Shatty then

Struggling.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

one guy has a 60% xGF and 59% shot rate the other guy has a 41% and 46% expected goal and shot rate. season's young and sample size is small but i still don't get the point. if anything, Shattenkirk has been an anchor to McDonagh when they've been together like Girardi was.

 

[silverfish]

Sorry, I assumed most people wouldn't make sweeping declarations over a four game sample size

We have years of data that show McDonagh - Shattenkirk should be a pairing, and Staal-Holden should never be on the top-pair.

 

[SA16]

Sorry, I assumed most people wouldn't make sweeping declarations over a four game sample size

We have years of data that show McDonagh - Shattenkirk should be a pairing, and Staal-Holden should never be on the top-pair.

Four games? Sweeping generalizations occur after even one period.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Four games? Sweeping generalizations occur after even one period.

What, you mean period-by-period use of corsi isn’t a good idea? Never would have guessed that one (this isn’t meant to be sass thrown at you)

McDonagh has looked really good to me. The entire team has struggled with the puck in the defensive zone because their breakouts have been ass

 

[silverfish]

Decent game until the third period.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Shit, @silverfish , bottom 5 in SAT% xG% and GF%? f***ing yikes.

 

[silverfish]

****, @silverfish , bottom 5 in SAT% xG% and GF%? ****ing yikes.

1-4 and Lundqvist has a positive GSAA.

Ugly times.

 

[silverfish]

Shocks me that people are surprised that this is how the season is going.

 

[Machinehead]

"Just not finishing enough"

 

[DanielBrassard]

I thought Shattenkirk had a decent game but once again he gets caved in. There goes my eye test.

 

[Machinehead]

McDonagh has a relXG% of 17.26.

Thx u for the memoriz, Dan.

 

[Machinehead]

i don't really understand this post. McDonagh has been great, Shattenkirk not.

Correct me if I'm wrong, @silverfish , but I think the point is that McDonagh-Shattenkirk has already been abandoned.

 

[silverfish]

Correct me if I'm wrong, @silverfish , but I think the point is that McDonagh-Shattenkirk has already been abandoned.

Not only abandoned, but KS22 was a third-pairing guy three games into the season, and we're constantly dressing 7D because AV has no idea wtf to do.

Yandle is in Florida laughing.

 

[silverfish]

6 games is a small sample size, but it's getting bigger. Who are our next four? Pens, Isles, Predators, Sharks? Even if we somehow miraculously go 2-2 in this stretch, this is a 3-7 team.

corsica.hockey, 5v5, adjusted

26th in CF%
25th in xGF%
29th in GF%

This isn't good.

If there's anything to cause slight optimism, it's that our 5v5 xGF is 4th in the league, but our actual GF is 25th. The goals should start coming. But, if you don't have the talent to actual finish the chances, well, then that's an issue.

 

[Machinehead]

6 games is a small sample size, but it's getting bigger. Who are our next four? Pens, Isles, Predators, Sharks? Even if we somehow miraculously go 2-2 in this stretch, this is a 3-7 team.

corsica.hockey, 5v5, adjusted

26th in CF%
25th in xGF%
29th in GF%

This isn't good.

If there's anything to cause slight optimism, it's that our 5v5 xGF is 4th in the league, but our actual GF is 25th. The goals should start coming. But, if you don't have the talent to actual finish the chances, well, then that's an issue.

The goals should start coming but again, that's hard when you scoring is great for the opponent and they take over the game immediately after.

 

[DanielBrassard]

6 games is a small sample size, but it's getting bigger. Who are our next four? Pens, Isles, Predators, Sharks? Even if we somehow miraculously go 2-2 in this stretch, this is a 3-7 team.

corsica.hockey, 5v5, adjusted

26th in CF%
25th in xGF%
29th in GF%

This isn't good.

If there's anything to cause slight optimism, it's that our 5v5 xGF is 4th in the league, but our actual GF is 25th. The goals should start coming. But, if you don't have the talent to actual finish the chances, well, then that's an issue.

Well said. The Rangers aren't a .200 point percentage team obviously, how many are, even the worst in the league? but unless they go on a run starting Tuesday, it might be too late to get back into the playoff race. I know everyone will point to 13-14, but the division wasn't as strong and IMO the Rangers aren't nearly as good as they were then either.

 

[Mac n Gs]

So based on Manny’s K rating, we’re top 5 in offensive K but worst in defensive K

 

[Filthy Dangles]

So why does the team give up so many shots?

 

[SA16]

They don't? They're tied for 10th least in shots allowed per game overall and 19th at 5v5. They've been average.

 

[Mac n Gs]

What SA said. The issue is the quality against, not the quantity

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Shot (Attempts).