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Prospect Info: The 2027 NHL Draft Thread - The Road to Landon Dupont

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Get ready. Because we are going to be that bad almost no matter what. There aren't any other teams nearly as bad as the Canucks. Outside of Demko being healthy, Petterson getting back to point per game, and our defense taking significant steps forward we don't have a team that can compete.

I'm also perfectly fine with another 58 points and a top 3 pick. There are plenty of other players that I want next year that aren't Dupont. And it's nice to be able to choose the one that fits your team the best and not just the faller.
Bro… we need another 2-3 seasons of basement level standing. We need the pillars. Cant be busts too. We need to careful.
 
Get ready. Because we are going to be that bad almost no matter what. There aren't any other teams nearly as bad as the Canucks. Outside of Demko being healthy, Petterson getting back to point per game, and our defense taking significant steps forward we don't have a team that can compete.

I'm also perfectly fine with another 58 points and a top 3 pick. There are plenty of other players that I want next year that aren't Dupont. And it's nice to be able to choose the one that fits your team the best and not just the faller.
I'm calling it right now. There's no way the Canucks are finishing with 58 points next season, no matter how many wish for it to happen.

We're going to find out in a hurry just how bad Foote did coaching the Canucks last season. There's no way Malhotra will tolerate a fraction of the egregious and comical defensive breakdowns the Canucks endured last season.

I mean this team had nine wins on home ice all year. Few realize just how bad that actually is--and how hard it is going to be to come close matching that level mediocrity next year.

Assuming their lineup stays healthy, wouldn't shock me if they finished at 70-80 points. Still far below the playoff bar, but infinitesimal odds of winning the draft lottery.
 
I'm calling it right now. There's no way the Canucks are finishing with 58 points next season, no matter how many wish for it to happen.

We're going to find out in a hurry just how bad Foote did coaching the Canucks last season. There's no way Malhotra will tolerate a fraction of the egregious and comical defensive breakdowns the Canucks endured last season.

I mean this team had nine wins on home ice all year. Few realize just how bad that actually is--and how hard it is going to be to come close matching that level mediocrity next year.

Assuming their lineup stays healthy, wouldn't shock me if they finished at 70-80 points. Still far below the playoff bar, but infinitesimal odds of winning the draft lottery.
Completely agree.

Coaching, demko being healthy, younger players playing better are all steps towards finish with more than 58 points.

The only way they can counter against that is if they sell enough vets for picks. Ideally they still finish let’s say 60-65 points while seeing improvements from the younger players but there’s a real scenario where they finish in the upper 70s and we’re drafting like 8 or 9 (which would be awful for us).
 
Completely agree.

Coaching, demko being healthy, younger players playing better are all steps towards finish with more than 58 points.

The only way they can counter against that is if they sell enough vets for picks. Ideally they still finish let’s say 60-65 points while seeing improvements from the younger players but there’s a real scenario where they finish in the upper 70s and we’re drafting like 8 or 9 (which would be awful for us).
Everybody assumes the Canucks will be dumping guys like Marcus Pettersson, DeBrusk, Boeser and even Hronek or EP40 over the summer.

Not a chance that will happen unless somebody steps up with a ridiculous offer for any of these players. More likely the Canucks go into the season with them--and if they're out of it by March, then market these guys at the TDL where the return is likely to be far better.

So if they stick with these veteran guys all year, and they have bounce-back seasons, that's another reason why 58 points again is pretty unlikely in back-to-back seasons.
 
Everybody assumes the Canucks will be dumping guys like Marcus Pettersson, DeBrusk, Boeser and even Hronek or EP40 over the summer.

Not a chance that will happen unless somebody steps up with a ridiculous offer for any of these players. More likely the Canucks go into the season with them--and if they're out of it by March, then market these guys at the TDL where the return is likely to be far better.

So if they stick with these veteran guys all year, and they have bounce-back seasons, that's another reason why 58 points again is pretty unlikely in back-to-back seasons.
58 probably not. But, the gap between Van and Chi was 14 points and then Cal/NYR was 19 points. That is 7 and 9.5 outright wins difference.
Like in Fast and Furious, by an inch or a mile. Van just needs to be in the bottom 2-3 in the standings. Need to secure a talented player in the top of the draft.
 
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Get ready. Because we are going to be that bad almost no matter what. There aren't any other teams nearly as bad as the Canucks. Outside of Demko being healthy, Petterson getting back to point per game, and our defense taking significant steps forward we don't have a team that can compete.

I'm also perfectly fine with another 58 points and a top 3 pick. There are plenty of other players that I want next year that aren't Dupont. And it's nice to be able to choose the one that fits your team the best and not just the faller.
Our forwards would have a tough time scoring on an AHL squad but behind the blueline, they're average at worst.
 
Get ready. Because we are going to be that bad almost no matter what. There aren't any other teams nearly as bad as the Canucks. Outside of Demko being healthy, Petterson getting back to point per game, and our defense taking significant steps forward we don't have a team that can compete.

I'm also perfectly fine with another 58 points and a top 3 pick. There are plenty of other players that I want next year that aren't Dupont. And it's nice to be able to choose the one that fits your team the best and not just the faller.
The defense is going to take a significant step forward. MP will rebound now that he isn't getting dragged down by the partner-killer giraffe, the kids will all be a year older with more intelligent usage and better guidance, and a non-lobotomized coach will be in charge.

Seems like pretty good odds that we get a lot more value out of the Demko/EP duo than we did last year.

But Foote also single handedly cost us a ton of points last year. I watched so many close games last year where idiotic coaching decisions and ice time distributions could easily have been the difference.

Ideally we trade EP and it's all moot because despite all the shit he gets and most of it deserved, he does a ton of heavy lifting and props the team up. If he goes it will go a long way to counterbalance the boost we're going to get from Foote being gone.
 
The defense is going to take a significant step forward. MP will rebound now that he isn't getting dragged down by the partner-killer giraffe, the kids will all be a year older with more intelligent usage and better guidance, and a non-lobotomized coach will be in charge.

Seems like pretty good odds that we get a lot more value out of the Demko/EP duo than we did last year.

But Foote also single handedly cost us a ton of points last year. I watched so many close games last year where idiotic coaching decisions and ice time distributions could easily have been the difference.

Ideally we trade EP and it's all moot because despite all the shit he gets and most of it deserved, he does a ton of heavy lifting and props the team up. If he goes it will go a long way to counterbalance the boost we're going to get from Foote being gone.
While true, the Canucks are kind of on an island in terms of their tanking. Chicago will be markedly better, and basically the sole reason they were even tanking last year is because Bedard was injured. But they are adding more young players next year and really shouldn’t be close to contending with the Canucks.

New York will challenge us a bit, but they’ve got a prime Shesterkin who’s going to make bottoming out very hard. He was injured much of last year making their tank more feasible.

Calgary is probably our biggest competitor in my opinion. They are going to really suck, just like us.
 
While true, the Canucks are kind of on an island in terms of their tanking. Chicago will be markedly better, and basically the sole reason they were even tanking last year is because Bedard was injured. But they are adding more young players next year and really shouldn’t be close to contending with the Canucks.

New York will challenge us a bit, but they’ve got a prime Shesterkin who’s going to make bottoming out very hard. He was injured much of last year making their tank more feasible.

Calgary is probably our biggest competitor in my opinion. They are going to really suck, just like us.
LAK minus Kopitar will take a step back and could be pretty bad. NSH could bottom out anytime as 5 of their top 8 point producers are over 35 and due for a drop off.
WPG could trade Helly and lose a lot of games.

I don’t think the Canucks will run away with last place like last season and there could be several bad teams but yeah, only Calgary is actively tanking and selling off good players by choice. Odds are pretty good that we finish 30-32 next season and draft top 5.
 
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LAK minus Kopitar will take a step back and could be pretty bad. NSH could bottom out anytime as 5 of their top 8 point producers are over 35 and due for a drop off.
WPG could trade Helly and lose a lot of games.

I don’t think the Canucks will run away with last place like last season and there could be several bad teams but yeah, only Calgary is actively tanking and selling off good players by choice. Odds are pretty good that we finish 30-32 next season and draft top 5.
Ya, totally agree. Not saying it’s a slam dunk, but with further veteran sell offs as we should see, this team should be a bottom two or three team.
 
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