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The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

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We need to rebuild our defense and add top 6 forward. That immediately creates cap issues, so we'll probably have to trade one of Power/Byram and one of Sammy/Clifton.
 
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If Byram’s play away from Dahlin hasn’t convinced you guys who out of Power and Byram needs to go idk what to tell you
 
MOGlLNY said:
If Byram’s play away from Dahlin hasn’t convinced you guys who out of Power and Byram needs to go idk what to tell you
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I'm not really convinced by the performance of both, but it's unlikely that we will trade both. As I said before, I have my doubts that Byram will be on the team next season.
 
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Beerz said:
Depends on his contract demand.. if i get Byram at 1-2 million cheaper... Bye Owen.
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Sorry man Byram has been abysmal without being stapled to Dahlin. Not giving him anything close to that. I’d bridge him for cheap or trade him
 
MOGlLNY said:
Sorry man Byram has been abysmal without being stapled to Dahlin. Not giving him anything close to that. I’d bridge him for cheap or trade him
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My response would be - who hasn't been abysmal without Dahlin?

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MOGlLNY said:
My response is Power has historically proven he can put up reasonable numbers with an anchor attached to him while Byram has not.
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My overall point is the analytics can't be trusted on a Wilford coached unit. If the only player that can drive positive results is a #1OA pick generational talent like Dahlin, then it's the coaching, not the players. So there needs to be a greater reliance on the eye test before making decisions.

I personally would like to swap out Power, I think he holds more value as an asset and can therefore bring back a greater return, and his weaknesses are never going away.

While Power's strengths have a higher ceiling than Byram, his overall compete level and awareness in his own zone will never be as good as Byram's, which is what I care more about in a defensiveman.

But that's just my personal preference, I'd rather have a defensively stout unit that might be unable to make the perfect outlet and instead has to dump the puck out and put their forwards to work, than an offensively gifted unit that doesn't know their head from their ass in the dzone. I've watched teams like Vegas and Florida employ this strategy in recent years with great success.
 
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MOGlLNY said:
Sorry man Byram has been abysmal without being stapled to Dahlin. Not giving him anything close to that. I’d bridge him for cheap or trade him
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Byram has been away from Dahlin maybe what? 3 or 4 games and last night he was pretty good.

But more importantly.. why take him away from Dahlin when it works. Nobody cares Towes is never away from Makar.

Trade Power and find 2 reasonably priced 2nd pair guys. Dahlin PP1 .. Byram PP2

2nd pair guys hopefully take care of PK
 
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Dahlicious said:
Byram's recently play has me wanting to trade both of them tbh.
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Zman5778 said:
Frankly.......I'm OK moving on from both if it balances our roster more.
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Yeah, that would be my plan, although it might not be very realistic. In one of the deals we could bring back PMD for the second pair, someone who can move the puck and isn't as bad as Power on defense, I think you can find someone like that if you look hard enough.
 
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Beerz said:
Byram has been away from Dahlin maybe what? 3 or 4 games and last night he was pretty good.

But more importantly.. why take him away from Dahlin when it works. Nobody cares Towes is never away from Makar.

Trade Power and find 2 reasonably priced 2nd pair guys. Dahlin PP1 .. Byram PP2

2nd pair guys hopefully take care of PK
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It works, I guess... just other stuff works better. If Byram is not cheaper than Sammy, what's the point. And in fairness, a lot of the 25/26 pairing probably has some score effect impacts, but that is obscenely strong.

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GrierIsGod123 said:
Is there data on Samuelsson Power? I'm just trying to figure out the optimal top 4 with what we have.
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We need a RD for Power on the second pair anyway, even Adams has admitted it, so Sammy doesn't make sense. For now he'll probably play with Rasmus, and then we'll have to think about it.
 
I can't believe we've had 3 GMS and none of them can build a defense that isn't completely embarrassing and completely sinking the team.

So who can we get for Dahlin and JJP since they seem to be on the cusp of demanding a trade? Maybe Monahan and Ekblad?
 
Fjordsen said:
We need to rebuild our defense and add top 6 forward. That immediately creates cap issues, so we'll probably have to trade one of Power/Byram and one of Sammy/Clifton.
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Trade Sammy and his 4 million for a top 4 RHD making 6 million and its only 2+ million added to the cap. Sammy needs to go. He is not engaged at all and is a shell of his rookie season.

I been banging on the drum of building a defense since 20 games into the season.

UPL is a good goalie and Levi will be here next year. If Adams/next GM doesn't fix the defense it will destroy these two.

When building a team the first thing Adams should have focused on is building a solid defensive foundation. He is a clueless cuck for Pegula who also has no idea.
 
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toddkaz said:
Trade Sammy and his 4 million for a top 4 RHD making 6 million and its only 2+ million added to the cap. Sammy needs to go. He is not engaged at all and is a shell of his rookie season.
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Honestly, I don't see any point in paying Clifton 3 million either, there are a lot of mistakes, although it is physical. One of Power/Byram should also leave, these are potentially three defensemen who earn almost 20 million between them.
 
Fjordsen said:
Honestly, I don't see any point in paying Clifton 3 million either, there are a lot of mistakes, although it is physical. One of Power/Byram should also leave, these are potentially three defensemen who earn almost 20 million between them.
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I agree too. Clifton is overpaid but thats what it took to get him here.

Dahlin, Power and Byram is not ideal foundation because Power and Byram are still learning and we don't know what we have there. We will see what Benard-Docker brings but I think we need 3 new defensemen depending on Bernard-Docker.

Adams in year 1, 2 and 3 should have been drafting defense in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and instead had no plan. I posted Adams drafting the last 5 years and highlighted the defense he drafted. It was very thin and mostly left handed defensemen.

And now look, the defense is a mess and there is no high end defensive prospects in the pool.

All signs point to Adams not having a plan. If he doesn't fix this in the off season this team will end up in the same direction.
 
Dahlicious said:
"They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true." - Abraham Lincoln
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You seriously think a competitor like Dahlin isn't dying to get out of Buffalo, who doesn't seem to be any closer to being competitive than when they drafted him 7 years ago?

It's very easy to just ignore information you don't like and call it "fake news." It's probably easier to live life in denial as a sabres fan though, so I understand.
 
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