The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Chainshot]

In fact, trading both might have been the best decision. Byram plays with Dahlin and is completely dependent on him, and I'm not sure he can carry his own pair. And we don't even need Byram next to Dahlin, almost anyone can be there and thrive, a more defensive guy for example, or just a complementary player like Fabbro.

Byram isn't "completely dependant" on Dahlin.

 

[Fjordy]

Byram isn't "completely dependant" on Dahlin.

But his metrics are bad and when Dahlin was injured he didn't help much and his pairing metrics dropped. As I said I don't see any point in using Byram with Dahlin. Trade one of Power/Byram and add two more defensive top 4 D's to balance the defense.

 

[zenthusiast]

tired: mitts for byram was a horrible move, byram stinks
Wired: mitts for byram was a great move, mitts stinks
Inspired: mitts for byram was a move, they both stink

 

[Chainshot]

But his metrics are bad and when Dahlin was injured he didn't help much and his pairing metrics dropped. As I said I don't see any point in using Byram with Dahlin. Trade one of Power/Byram and add two more defensive top 4 D's to balance the defense.

I just posted his 5-on-5 stats when Dahlin was out and for the season as a whole. That Rono chart is full of it.

 

[Fjordy]

I just posted his 5-on-5 stats when Dahlin was out and for the season as a whole. That Rono chart is full of it.

And what is this then?

 

[Chainshot]

And what is this then?

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Feel free to go back a page and spend some time looking at the numbers for when Dahlin is in the lineup and when he's not. JFresh charts are a convenient way to put zero context on things. It's like trying to say that all of Power's issues are because of one particular partner - he's getting his ass kicked with everyone but Dahlin too in terms of high danger chances for and against (which tracks for someone who is terrible at preventing HDC's that he's losing it with everyone but Dahlin except surprisingly Cliffy).

JFresh does not encapsulate any sort of context.

Full season -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

Games during Dahlin's injury -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

 

[Fjordy]

Feel free to go back a page and spend some time looking at the numbers for when Dahlin is in the lineup and when he's not. JFresh charts are a convenient way to put zero context on things. It's like trying to say that all of Power's issues are because of one particular partner - he's getting his ass kicked with everyone but Dahlin too in terms of high danger chances for and against (which tracks for someone who is terrible at preventing HDC's that he's losing it with everyone but Dahlin except surprisingly Cliffy).

JFresh does not encapsulate any sort of context.

Full season -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

Games during Dahlin's injury -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

Unfortunately, the sample size of pairs when Dahlin was absent is very small, so I usually trust EH or Jfresh more, since they have metrics for a long time, plus I am not too strong in all these advanced metrics.

 

[Beerz]

His wrist injury was due to a shot block (and McAvoy kicking him in the skate boot). He has had a couple of tilts - the one where he and Nielsen are punching one another down on the ice remains a vivid memory for me. But I don't think he's broken a hand in any.

Yeah I remember the blocked shot thing.. I thought earlier in his career he did it.. but I googled and couldn't find anything so must be mistaken

 

[Selanne00008]

Feel free to go back a page and spend some time looking at the numbers for when Dahlin is in the lineup and when he's not. JFresh charts are a convenient way to put zero context on things. It's like trying to say that all of Power's issues are because of one particular partner - he's getting his ass kicked with everyone but Dahlin too in terms of high danger chances for and against (which tracks for someone who is terrible at preventing HDC's that he's losing it with everyone but Dahlin except surprisingly Cliffy).

JFresh does not encapsulate any sort of context.

Full season -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

Games during Dahlin's injury -

Defensive Pairs - Natural Stat Trick

The jist of allll this talk is that Dahlin is Awesome, and everyone else is just meh.

Is it not?

 

[jc17]

Does this kid know all he has to do is punch someone on the other team in his first shift, get ejected, and we'll all petition for him to be a full time roster player

 

[MagnumForce2]

Rosen recalled

 

[Beerz]

Wonder if Tage passed all the concussion tests last night and woke up with headaches

 

[MagnumForce2]

Wonder if Tage passed all the concussion tests last night and woke up with headaches

I thought the same but there are also a few players that could be sat.

 

[Jacob582]

Does this kid know all he has to do is punch someone on the other team in his first shift, get ejected, and we'll all petition for him to be a full time roster player

Good for Rosen. He's been on fire lately. Put him on a good line.

 

[MagnumForce2]

Good for Rosen. He's been on fire lately. Put him on a good line.

Agreed on his line.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Rosen recalled

Who sits (just seen Kozak is on IR) or is Tage out afterall I wonder.
@Chainshot does Rosen miss the AHL All Star game ?

 

[MagnumForce2]

Who sits (just seen Kozak is on IR) or is Tage out afterall I wonder.
@Chainshot does Rosen miss the AHL All Star game ?

I am wondering about Tage.. maybe Ruff will sit him as a precautionary measure.

 

[StrompTroller]

pages and pages of calling for truculence and no one but me is just staring at Beck with wide eyes? We criticized what we paid for him. Everyone did. But we rationalize it because he's an nhl player with good 4th line skills....


where was he again?