The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Jim Bob]

Before that, there was nothing stopping Blake from trading Durzi, Faber, and letting Roy go. It's not like we really need Clarke, he's just not that type of defenseman.

Clarke is more like Byfield, who many people said that teams should trade for when he was slow to develop early, and Blake held onto him.

And I completely agree on Clarke not being a great fit. But, Blake being highly unlikely to move him in the near term is the bigger barrier. I mean, when has roster fit ever stopped Adams from making a trade?

 

[TehDoak]

I’m not that upset about the Petterssen deal/lack of one.

I’m upset we are so desperate to add skill and talent that Petterssen seemed like the only move we could make while we’ve sat on cap space and draft picks for the last 4 seasons and didn’t take advantage of cap strapped teams.

This is a culmination of incompetence, not one incompetent move

 

[Jim Bob]

I’m not that upset about the Petterssen deal/lack of one.

I’m upset we are so desperate to add skill and talent that Petterssen seemed like the only move we could make while we’ve sat on cap space and draft picks for the last 4 seasons and didn’t take advantage of cap strapped teams.

This is a culmination of incompetence, not one incompetent move

I am not that upset because the Canucks moved Miller first. My guess is that they ride out the rest of the season to see if removing Miller from the room sparks the team forward.

If it doesn't because the room is mad that Miller moved and not EPete, I expect the trade rumors to flair up between the end of the season and the end of June before the NMC kicks in.

But, with the cap exploding, the list of impact players that the Sabres can trade for will get smaller and smaller, I fear. So, that means they need to be more aggressive and more times where they don't take a swing means that we just sit in this same place where the roster is too young and inexperienced to compete...

 

[Fjordy]

Clarke is more like Byfield, who many people said that teams should trade for when he was slow to develop early, and Blake held onto him.

And I completely agree on Clarke not being a great fit. But, Blake being highly unlikely to move him in the near term is the bigger barrier. I mean, when has roster fit ever stopped Adams from making a trade?

Well I gave an example that Blake constantly trades his RDs, I don't know why. But I hope Adams is not going to target Clarke, then Byfield might have made more sense, although it also seems not very suitable for our situation.

I’m not that upset about the Petterssen deal/lack of one.

I’m upset we are so desperate to add skill and talent that Petterssen seemed like the only move we could make while we’ve sat on cap space and draft picks for the last 4 seasons and didn’t take advantage of cap strapped teams.

This is a culmination of incompetence, not one incompetent move

I'm actually upset because that was the only 1C without trade protection that could have been traded. Now we still have a big black hole in Cozens in the top 6 and young Kulich who of course looks very promising, but we will still need a top 6 C to replace Cozens and it is unclear where to get him now.

Of course, a lot has been said about defense, but what can you do if our idiot GM just talks about RD when Marino, Jensen, Kovacevic, Fabbro, Borgen and Carrier were traded in front of his nose, and he apparently did not know about it.

 

[Jim Bob]

Well I gave an example that Blake constantly trades his RDs, I don't know why. But I hope Adams is not going to target Clarke, then Byfield might have made more sense, although it also seems not very suitable for our situation.

My guess is that one reason is that he has had Drew Doughty on the roster. But, given that he's 35yo and signed for two more seasons beyond 24-25 means that he won't move Clarke and that Clarke is the heir apparent to Doughty.

I'm actually upset because that was the only 1C without trade protection that could have been traded. Now we still have a big black hole in Cozens in the top 6 and young Kulich who of course looks very promising, but we will still need a top 6 C to replace Cozens and it is unclear where to get him now.

Of course, a lot has been said about defense, but what can you do if our idiot GM just talks about RD when Marino, Jensen, Kovacevic, Fabbro, Borgen and Carrier were traded in front of his nose, and he apparently did not know about it.

I can't be upset at a GM for not trading for a guy that the other GM chooses not to trade.

For instance, I can't be mad about not trade for Ehlers in the summer when Winnipeg has held onto him.

Just like I won't get mad at Brandon Beane if the Browns keep Myles Garrett and the Raiders keep Maxx Crosby. A GM cannot force another GM to trade a guy they want to keep.

For instance, would it be reasonable for fans of another team to be mad that their GM hasn't traded for Bo Byram or Dylan Cozens yet?

 

[Fjordy]

My guess is that one reason is that he has had Drew Doughty on the roster. But, given that he's 35yo and signed for two more seasons beyond 24-25 means that he won't move Clarke and that Clarke is the heir apparent to Doughty.

Maybe, but it's a little weird to me that Clarke played very little time even when Doughty was injured. But overall I don't think they're going to trade him and we don't really need him, he's just not that type of defenseman.

I can't be upset at a GM for not trading for a guy that the other GM chooses not to trade.

For instance, I can't be mad about not trade for Ehlers in the summer when Winnipeg has held onto him.

Just like I won't get mad at Brandon Beane if the Browns keep Myles Garrett and the Raiders keep Maxx Crosby. A GM cannot force another GM to trade a guy they want to keep.

For instance, would it be reasonable for fans of another team to be mad that their GM hasn't traded for Bo Byram or Dylan Cozens yet?

I'm not upset with the GM, but the fact that we didn't get this guy is two different things.

But I'm upset with the GM for many other reasons, that our roster isn't very good, that it's too young, that we're in last place in the conference, etc.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Welp. Disappointing. Their center spine is pretty weak. Unfortunately, #1 Cs are hard to come by, so it'll be a while until we get another shot. This organization is just full of disappointments. The biggest one being Adams still having a job. Looking at the standings, and knowing he's still employed as the team gets worse every season has me feeling hopeless.

 

[Jim Bob]

Maybe, but it's a little weird to me that Clarke played very little time even when Doughty was injured. But overall I don't think they're going to trade him and we don't really need him, he's just not that type of defenseman.

He's only a second year pro. He probably should be playing more minutes in the AHL than playing in the NHL.

I'm not upset with the GM, but the fact that we didn't get this guy is two different things.

But I'm upset with the GM for many other reasons, that our roster isn't very good, that it's too young, that we're in last place in the conference, etc.

I guess I don't get why anyone would be upset in general about not landing a guy in trade that didn't move in a trade.

I get wanting the roster to be better. But, my focus in that regard is about moves that have been made and moves that have been passed on as opposed to moves that really couldn't have happened.

 

[Fjordy]

I guess I don't get why anyone would be upset in general about not landing a guy in trade that didn't move in a trade.

I get wanting the roster to be better. But, my focus in that regard is about moves that have been made and moves that have been passed on as opposed to moves that really couldn't have happened.

Well I'm upset because I think we won't get EP40 now, that's all.

Well, there were a lot of players, especially RD, that Adams could have gotten, but for some reason he didn't. And now he says that we don't have enough RD and talks some nonsense about Byram.

 

[Jacob582]

The Canucks locker room may disagree.

If Miller and EP were at odds then the locker room was split. Some on the side of EP and some on the side of Miller. This isn't over.

 

[Fjordy]

Canucks just traded Miller. Chytil seems like a good player but he's obviously not as good as EP40 or Miller, plus he has a history of injuries, concussions I think. I just doubt the Canucks are excited to trade EP40 right now, especially to Buffalo, they're probably looking for a center and it would be ridiculous if they decided to go with their top 6 C's in Cozens and Chytil. If the Canucks wait until the summer and still want to trade EP40 (before his NMC on July 1st) then Buffalo will have a lot more competition to get him and there might just be better packages out there that we can't beat, just a better young center or something.