The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Fjordy]

JT Miller likely to be the one traded and not EP Rasmus Andersson not up for trade.

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Yeah, I don't really believe we can get Pettersson anymore and there's no one else close to him for us, that's frustrating. So we'll have to try other options, but they're either not as good or have no-trade clauses. Plan B is getting one of Zegras, Pinto, McTavish, Hayton and hope you can develop him into a consistent top 6 C.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Well, first of all, I see Byram playing on the RD all the time, and not Dahlin, take a closer look at the games, Byram is on the RD much more often than on the LD. Secondly, they are also not ideal in a pair, I see a lot of these small mistakes when they get confused about who should be on the RD, and sometimes both are on the LD, and the opponent's forward easily finds free space because of this.

I don't see the point in three PMDs, this is excessive, we need more defensive right-handed defenders and a top 6 C and other positions . So trading one of Byram/Power makes a lot of sense for me.

But even if Dahlin is more comfortable playing on RD and he wants it. Find him a more defensive partner, as you said, a vet maybe. Gavrikov, M. Pettersson and etc. Although Ruff literally said at the beginning of the season that he needs two RDs in the top 4. And in general, if you look at other teams, most of them have a balanced defense of PMDs and defensive guys and three right-handers and three left-handers.

I had "heard" Byrum does not really like to play the right side. That may go along way in contributing to him NOT extending here and being flipped.

 

[Fjordy]

I had "heard" Byrum does not really like to play the right side. That may go along way in contributing to him NOT extending here and being flipped.

I have no idea if he likes to play there or not, but he mostly plays there, if you watch the games carefully, you can see how Dahlin is most often on the LD, especially in defense, sometimes they switch places in attack or can be in defense, depending on the situation, but mostly Byram plays RD. Plus rumors that Byram wants the role of 1D and time PP1. So I will not be surprised if Byram is no longer on the team next season. And in principle, I would prefer to add several top 4 defensive defenders instead of one PMD. This team lacks such defenders, especially right-handed ones.

 

[Chainshot]

While none of that information is earthshaking, I trust Dreger as far as an agent can throw him.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I have no idea if he likes to play there or not, but he mostly plays there, if you watch the games carefully, you can see how Dahlin is most often on the LD, especially in defense, sometimes they switch places in attack or can be in defense, depending on the situation, but mostly Byram plays RD. Plus rumors that Byram wants the role of 1D and time PP1. So I will not be surprised if Byram is no longer on the team next season. And in principle, I would prefer to add several top 4 defensive defenders instead of one PMD. This team lacks such defenders, especially right-handed ones.

Yes, I have eyes, why pivot off my point?

 

[Fjordy]

Yes, I have eyes, why pivot off my point?, just to hear yourself again ?

I don't understand what this has to do with it, it's just that many people think that Dahlin plays RD in this pair. Oh well, another misunderstanding.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I don't understand what this has to do with it, it's just that many people think that Dahlin plays RD in this pair. Oh well, another misunderstanding.

My point was if a player does not like his usage he is not likely going to extend here. Two different points then, fair enough.

ps I see you added some very good points to your post (PP1 time, etc) as well. So I broke my own wait 5 minutes before you reply rule.

 

[Fjordy]

My point was if a player does not like his usage he is not likely going to extend here. Two different points then, fair enough.

ps I see you added some very good points to your post (PP1 time, etc) as well. So I broke my own wait 5 minutes before you reply rule.

Then it's a little strange that Ruff won't put Dahlin to play more RD if he's comfortable there and Byram isn't so comfortable. There are some questions about that.

 

[joshjull]

There is more evidence in support of Cozens not having the hockey acumen to be a defensive Center in the NHL than there is to suggest that Granato failed in his development lol. Granato is an easy target, but there is pretty strong evidence at this point that the roster he had, just like the one Ruff has is NOT GOOD. Cozens has all the physical tools, he seems to care, and he sounds coachable. But it seems like his current coach agrees that maybe he just doesn't have it yet...

Lindy near the start of December... "Twenty some games is enough that if you can't make the read, then you gotta go to the wing" when talking about Cozens (and threw in Thompson). Right now Cozens is maybe an average offensive Center who should probably be put on the wing.

Now, if the reason he has not been scratched, or put on the wing, (thereby crippling the coach) is because the GM is trying to move him... Well, that would be the most Sabres' thing ever.

Granato at no point tried to develop Cozens as a defensive center. Thats what I’m talking about and what I’m blaming him for. It was a lost opportunity, especially from a team building standpoint.

The frustrating thing is Granato knew playing that way came naturally to Cozens. Its why whenever he (Cozens) was struggling/in his head during his first full season. He would throw him out in direct matchups against the other teams top centers. Donny only did it maybe 8-10x. But it was against some pretty good centers like McDavid, Mathews, etc.

Cozens did pretty well in those matchups because he wasn’t overthinking or in his head. Playing that way came naturally and was instinctive for him. Why Donny never went back to it or built on it is a mystery to me.

 

[joshjull]

I had "heard" Byrum does not really like to play the right side. That may go along way in contributing to him NOT extending here and being flipped.

He said it himself in an interview during a stretch when he was struggling on the Avs. That playing his off hand was contributing to his struggles.

 

[Fjordy]

He said it himself in an interview during a stretch when he was struggling on the Avs. That playing his off hand was contributing to his struggles.

Then why are we playing with him there? I mean, Lindy probably knows that Dahlin is comfortable playing RD, but Byram ends up playing RD more often in this pairing, for me it’s very strange.

 

[joshjull]

Yeah I dont get this non-stop worry about the '3LD PMD' and the desire to move 1 of them when Dahlin is a better RD. I love the idea of Bo-Dahls continuing to age and grow together to form a dynamic duo...Just get OP that damn vet stay at home guy already. There's room for all 3, even if Bo gets a nice deal.

I can’t speak for others but my issue is we don’t need 3 of them in the top 4. We certainly don’t need to pay Byram the 6-7mil AAV he’s likely to get. We already have a high paid d-corp that sucks at playing defense. Probably not a great idea to make it even more expensive and not addressing what they suck at.

Byram is carried by Dahlin. His numbers away from him are ass. In fact Dahlin/Joker have better underlying numbers. No I’m not remotely suggesting Joker goes back there. Just pointing out the impact Dahlin has on his pairs.

 

[joshjull]

Then why are we playing with him there? I mean, Lindy probably knows that Dahlin is comfortable playing RD, but Byram ends up playing RD more often in this pairing, for me it’s very strange.

No idea. Although I would say whenever Dahlin is playing RD with another lefty. He’s usually shifting back and forth from each side during play. I think that freedom is what he likes from being on the right side.

 

[Fjordy]

No idea. Although I would say whenever Dahlin is playing RD with another lefty. He’s usually shifting back and forth from each side during play. I think that freedom is what he likes from being on the right side.

Well, he can move sometimes, but I see Byram on RD in the game damn often, especially in defense. And sometimes I see this problem, they both end up next to each other and completely forget about the other flank (RD). I think there are both pros and cons to this kind of play. Ideally, Byram (on LD) should play on second pair his with a more defensive or versatile guy, let's see how it goes in the future.

 

[Fjordy]

Zucker seems to be open to re-signing.

NHL trade deadline: What should the Sabres do with Jason Zucker?