Conservatively, that roster is about $4-5 million over the projected $92 million cap for next season. I think Cozens or Power needs to go instead of Krebs or Byram, for it to work. Otherwise, it could work.
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Byram's new contract will likely be the same as Cozens or Power's, so it doesn't matter that much from a salary standpoint. I also don't see any point in keeping Samuelsson if we need a cap.
I'm not moving a potential top 5 pick and Rosen for Andersson
I agree, if Buffalo moves the 1st you wait until after the lottery. Andersson would be an offseason move anyways.
For Dahlin, a top pairing might not necessarily be an expensive player in every sense, just a complementary guy like Fabbro. Although I also really like Kovacevic and I'm not sure if the Devils will sign him to an extension or if he'll go to UFA. Waddell might want to re-sign Fabbro. Another defenseman in UFA that I would really like to get is Gavrikov. Although he is more of a LD than a RD, for Dahlin it probably doesn't matter. But in terms of vete leadership and quality game, Gavrikov is perfect, a great person. I watched a lot of videos during his time playing for Columbus and he was a leader and an older brother for the same Marchenko and Chinakhov, always ready to help with any issue. I think for our young russian guys from Rochester it would also be useful, especially if they were call to Buffalo.
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Yeah it's hard to estimate. We at least have some bad players coming off the books that helps. Peterka and Byram extensions are also unkown at this point,
Might have to replace Samuelsson/Clifton with something cheaper.
I'm guessing others are going to bid for him now. We need to get going or we'll be in another ROR/Eichel/Reinhart situation soon when our few good players want to leave.
Adams repeated failures has created an all in scenario for next season imo.
If that doesn't work we are a rebuild away from playoffs anyway...
The fact that you did all this work and KULICH is your top line LW? rough.
Yeah the sacrifice of Peterka stung but I tried to create a more balanced top 9. Granlund probably took me above the cap as well so nothing left for the first line.
Even with EP we don't have the top end talent that many if our rivals have so I figured 3 more even lines would help get us at least one favourable match up.
I would probably pick up Brannstrom and waive Gilbert. He would clear anyways.
Not saying Brannstrom is the answer but maybe give him a few games and see if Dahlin can work with him.
Not much risk there.
Why? And how does Bjorkstrand fit into this. I would just put Johnson with Dahlin and see if he can work with him, that makes a lot more sense, Johnson is better than Brannstrom on defense.
Seems like their only way forward would be to stumble into a player - think of Kesselring with Edmonton vs. with Arizona/Utah or Forsling with Chicago/Washington before Florida.
Granted, the "brain" trust seems so focused on their own draftees that there is no room for finding those folks. Paying for them after they are good seems unlikely for this sad sack team.
Granted, the "brain" trust seems so focused on their own draftees that there is no room for finding those folks. Paying for them after they are good seems unlikely for this sad sack team.
But did those teams actually "stumble into" uncovering those gems? Maybe they have competent, adequately staffed pro scouting contingents that saw what others did not.
Credit for signing Zucker, but are we still at one scout? I seem to recall they hired a second.
I don't know what they have on the pro side currently if it's one, two or if they've expanded out a bit more. I would say someone like Forsling was a stumble - the Caps seem to know what they are doing and still put him on waivers - but the ability to identify needed depth and role players is something this team has not shown a great ability to handle. It seems like they did well with Greenway, Zucker at the moment (though there is some risk with potential erosion of play if they sign him to an extension but for now, best forward UFA they have ever signed in my opinion), I would even say Cliffy has been good as a RD option on the third pairing after his rough start last year.
But there appears to be a talent evaluation shortage in their front office and not nearly enough eyes on players IMO and that's been that way for a while now.
What about Faber's example? The guy got stuck in the deep end of the LA RDs and became a great player in Minnesota. I have my eye on some young RDs. I agree that we need to look for these diamonds like Forsling, Fabbro, Marino, Kovacevic, Kesselring and others.
Faber becoming an offensive force wasn't really something most pundits saw - he was an excellent defensive defenseman in college but he wasn't even on the second PP unit as a Gopher. I don't think the Wild knew they were getting what they were getting in terms of offensive production, nor did the Kings suspect what they were giving up since they already had a slew of offensive RD who at that point had more evidence of that ability (Clarke, Spence, even Walker). That it worked out for Minny is great, I just don't think they knew better. It also helped Faber was able to get playing time in scoring situations with Spurgeon and others missing time. And that when he did so, he achieved.
I mean, first of all, he is a very reliable defender, especially in defense. There are just some young RDs who, in theory, could break out in a different environment or even in a pair with Dahlin. There are risks here, but I think the season can’t be saved anyway and why not try to get such a guy.
Others can have him. Solid dman but a bit repetitive here. We should be looking for a solid stay at home that comes cheaper than a top 5 pick and top prospect.
These would be my tweaks on your re-tool:
Trade Greenway. I'm assuming it would be a contender who is interested so likely a 2nd or 3rd round pick in return.
Resign Zucker. If price and term are reasonable. He's the kind of vet we need and offers versatility up and down the lines.
Trade Cozens and Krebs for Andersson. Calgary is desperate for centers and both fit the age range they're looking for. If an additional sweetener is needed to get the deal done, so be it.
Trade Power, Kulich, and 2025 first pick for EP. I'd rather switch Ostlund/Helenius for Kulich but I'm guessing that's who Vancouver would want.
Free Agency: There is a dire need for some toughness on this team. I'm doubtful how realistic Olivier and Frederick are as targets (especially Olivier), but those are the types I would be looking for and would be willing to overspend on. Dahlin needs a partner.* There seems to be a consensus that Fabbro would be a good fit.
*If Fabbro doesn't work out, perhaps Whitecloud would be available if Vegas needs cap space. With Andersson's ability to play on the first line and Dahlin's ability to play the right side there should be sufficient flexibility to fill out our top 4.
Trade Lafferty in the summer.
Peterka - EP - Tuch
Benson - Thompson - Quinn
Zucker - McLeod - Olivier
Malenstyn - Frederick - Kozak
Dahlin - Fabbro/Whitecloud
Byram - Andersson
Johnson - Clifton
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This team needs a culture change. It’s not an age issue, it’s an attitude issue. That’s why players that leave here prosper with other organizations. Maybe we need to trade some players and rebuild from the top down.
Ownership allows this and the GM doesn't take action to help. The group looks like they've lost their morale and that's easier to repair at the top first and then make a couple of shrewd personnel moves. But they have been too young for too long. It's not a surprise to see guys aging into their prime years accelling elsewhere - they've gotten to the right age for it to be their vocation and it shows. Those folks who have departed now treat the game as professionals instead of showing up to camp out of shape or hurt. But it starts at the top with what is or is not acceptable.
Rebuild again? No way. Just hire a competent GM who will fill the holes in the roster and finish the youth movement. Also change the coaching staff almost entirely or find a new coach and coaching staff if Ruff leaves.
I am not a huge Tage Thompson fan, but I really question putting him at wing. His career success only really began when Granato put him at center. we have heard multiple times about how much better he is at center since he can use his reach. Meanwhile, Cozens has not produced for 1+ years, and we haven't even tried any extended time on the wing. So we let him fail upwards as a 1C.
Ugh, I just hate the way this roster is constructed.
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