The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[My Cozen Dylan]

LOL

Tell me you're an owner who doesn't know what you're doing without telling me you don't know what you're doing..

Kevyn has compromising photos of Terry e4.

 

[Fjordy]

LOL

Tell me you're an owner who doesn't know what you're doing without telling me you don't know what you're doing..

And we believe in you, clowns.

 

[Strummer53]

LOL

Tell me you're an owner who doesn't know what you're doing without telling me you don't know what you're doing..

No good owner should even be able to state no player is getting traded.
Sign the checks and get out of the way.

 

[BigFatCat999]

I don't like how easy you make it, like you're trying to screw me over because I don't know as much about these players as you do. (No resentment)

No worries, this is HF boards if we don’t have a message where we’re trying to screw each other over because we think we’re NHL GM’s that we’re not doing our job as posters.

I’m just asking because the smoke coming from us with Nashville and Dylan Cozens is getting thick

 

[Jim Bob]

Acknowledging Friedman is pulling this out of his behind, but for my own delusion I am accepting it as 100% happening.

EP40 is the exact kind of player we are lacking. Tage as your 2C makes your roster infinitely better. I'd try to get Soucy back as well just to get some more edge on the backend.

Since EPete has removed his head from his rear, I doubt the Canucks consider trading him for even a second.

Sabres are out of the playoffs for 15 years. Everyone on the team for 15 years isn't the difference between winning and losing.

That doesn't mean you ignore upgrades.

I think the upgrade from Reimer to Levi was worth the "downgrade" from Johnson to whomever took his spot in the lineup.

 

[BigFatCat999]

And we believe in you, clowns.

Hey! Clowns worked hard to look iincompetent, people in power have a natural ability to.

(Niagara Clown Alley for life!)

 

[toddkaz]

Since EPete has removed his head from his rear, I doubt the Canucks consider trading him for even a second.


I think the upgrade from Reimer to Levi was worth the "downgrade" from Johnson to whomever took his spot in the lineup.

I think you upgrade everywhere you can without needing unique scenarios or stipulations.

 

[yasky]

I hope Terry at least brought some Bills caps for the boys.

 

[BigFatCat999]

Kevyn has compromising photos of Terry e4.

As we sat back in the David Poile days players had pictures of him with a goat…

 

[zenthusiast]

Do you think the players actually feel good about the owner saying it’ll work itself out? Surely they aren’t all delusional enough to think they’re actually a good team catching some bad breaks.

 

[jc17]

Do you think the players actually feel good about the owner saying it’ll work itself out? Surely they aren’t all delusional enough to think they’re actually a good team catching some bad breaks.

"No trades" was probably more of a threat than relief

 

[Fjordy]

"No trades" was probably more of a threat than relief

They say Adams is active and looking for a deal, Kevyn himself says so. Terry comes and says "No trades".

 

[jc17]

Do you think the players actually feel good about the owner saying it’ll work itself out? Surely they aren’t all delusional enough to think they’re actually a good team catching some bad breaks.

In all seriousness, players have to take ownership.

Not saying other changes aren't needed, but this isn't a 10 loss in a row team on paper, even without dahlin

"Losing culture" has partially been guys waiting for stuff to resolve. Maybe a GM or coach gets fired, maybe they'll trade for a buddy of mine, maybe I'll get traded to a good team.

Again, doesn't mean there shouldn't be stuff done, but these guys cannot sit around and wait for someone to fix it for them

 

[zenthusiast]

In all seriousness, players have to take ownership.

Not saying other changes aren't needed, but this isn't a 10 loss in a row team on paper, even without dahlin

"Losing culture" has partially been guys waiting for stuff to resolve. Maybe a GM or coach gets fired, maybe they'll trade for a buddy of mine, maybe I'll get traded to a good team.

Again, doesn't mean there shouldn't be stuff done, but these guys cannot sit around and wait for someone to fix it for them

Sure, but also, Peyton Krebs has to know that he’s not scoring 25 as a 2C if he tries harder. Dan Gilbert is not a lockdown second pair guy and it’s not fair to expect that.

 

[Fjordy]

In all seriousness, players have to take ownership.

Not saying other changes aren't needed, but this isn't a 10 loss in a row team on paper, even without dahlin

"Losing culture" has partially been guys waiting for stuff to resolve. Maybe a GM or coach gets fired, maybe they'll trade for a buddy of mine, maybe I'll get traded to a good team.

Again, doesn't mean there shouldn't be stuff done, but these guys cannot sit around and wait for someone to fix it for them

I'm not sure the players are the problem. What can they do? They play the way Krueger, Granato, Wilford and other coaches taught them. Look at how they play defense, almost everyone is struggling, and in reality, everyone, although I think Dahlin would have been fine overall if it weren't for his back, but even he was never Slavin or Weegar in defense. Jokiharju sucks, Bryson sucks, Sammy is mired in injuries and can't get into shape. Clifton is just a third-pair guy. We have the youngest team in the league, which means the players will not have consistency (I said this before the season, that Adams should take all the risks into account and add at least a top 6 F and a top 4 RD. Our roster is built wrong, our coaches next to Ruff are questionable. It's not easy.

 

[jc17]

Sure, but also, Peyton Krebs has to know that he’s not scoring 25 as a 2C if he tries harder. Dan Gilbert is not a lockdown second pair guy and it’s not fair to expect that.

I agree, again I think changes are necessary but as a player quitting can't be an option based on your opinions of the roster.

There's no excuse for 10 games in a row even if some guys are playing in roles beyond their ability

 

[Ygo88]

Sure, but also, Peyton Krebs has to know that he’s not scoring 25 as a 2C if he tries harder. Dan Gilbert is not a lockdown second pair guy and it’s not fair to expect that.

Well... Gilbert plays <11 minutes a game and has only played 10 games so far this season. Seems they expect him to be a physical 7D, which he is.

Krebs plays about 13mins/game and very little PP time this season, I don't think they are looking for 25 from him. Trust me, I get it... this team is just not good enough. But, neither is Philly... Nor was Vegas when they broke into the league.

The posters original point is that the players need to take ownership and they do... for what they don't do consistently. Sounds like Ruff (and previously Granato and others) are having a hard time getting them to play the system (which is code for work hard to box your man out, don't turn it over in the grey zones, stay on the right side of the puck etc...). When the 19 and 20 year old's on your roster are doing it better than the more veteran (and still young players) that is a problem. And it is most noticeable in close games, which they have had a lot of lately.

All that said, how can you sit Power or Byrum? Or Cozens and Peterka? They offer you the best chance to win, and the alternative most nights is that the aforementioned Krebs gets the top 6 minutes and Gilbert draws into 10 games (this is a don't post about Bryson disclaimer lol).

The problem is the players... Now, that is because the coach didn't give the team what it needed and hoped a coaching change would fix everything (different coach same result - oh, and Zucker for Skinner).

 

[MOGlLNY]

Greenway is most likely walking at end of season btw.

 

[Fjordy]

Greenway is most likely walking at end of season btw.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zucker did too, we need new free places for kids.

 

[MagnumForce2]

LOL

Tell me you're an owner who doesn't know what you're doing without telling me you don't know what you're doing..

Well, the Elias Pettersson rumor was exciting for a couple of hours…and we have a big game tomorrow night for last place in the Eastern Conference.

 

[HaNotsri]

They say Adams is active and looking for a deal, Kevyn himself says so. Terry comes and says "No trades".

Pegs has his old draft notes and can't let go of his babies. He's nixed over a thousand trades now.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Don't buy any 2025 tickets, let the f'in place get half full with Southern Ontario.

Don't buy any merch for Xmas and beyond!

 

[sabremike]

Since EPete has removed his head from his rear, I doubt the Canucks consider trading him for even a second.


I think the upgrade from Reimer to Levi was worth the "downgrade" from Johnson to whomever took his spot in the lineup.

Given the fact that "goalies play out of their minds vs their old team" is about as close to an iron law in hockey as it gets I'm not so sure about that.

 

[SundherDome]

Given the fact that "goalies play out of their minds vs their old team" is about as close to an iron law in hockey as it gets I'm not so sure about that.

That usually applies in a game or two after they leave, it has been almost a decade since Reimer played for Toronto

 

[zenthusiast]

Well... Gilbert plays <11 minutes a game and has only played 10 games so far this season. Seems they expect him to be a physical 7D, which he is.

Krebs plays about 13mins/game and very little PP time this season, I don't think they are looking for 25 from him. Trust me, I get it... this team is just not good enough. But, neither is Philly... Nor was Vegas when they broke into the league.

The posters original point is that the players need to take ownership and they do... for what they don't do consistently. Sounds like Ruff (and previously Granato and others) are having a hard time getting them to play the system (which is code for work hard to box your man out, don't turn it over in the grey zones, stay on the right side of the puck etc...). When the 19 and 20 year old's on your roster are doing it better than the more veteran (and still young players) that is a problem. And it is most noticeable in close games, which they have had a lot of lately.

All that said, how can you sit Power or Byrum? Or Cozens and Peterka? They offer you the best chance to win, and the alternative most nights is that the aforementioned Krebs gets the top 6 minutes and Gilbert draws into 10 games (this is a don't post about Bryson disclaimer lol).

The problem is the players... Now, that is because the coach didn't give the team what it needed and hoped a coaching change would fix everything (different coach same result - oh, and Zucker for Skinner).

Sure, I’m speaking more in the sense of whether the solution to our problems is in the room using the outlier things they’d tinkered with in the past. The point being there’s no miracle unless things just change