The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

Beerz · 2024-12-15T19:28:42-0500

Adams needs to make a hockey trade.

Smartest easiest way is Power for a Top 6 Center..

Beerz · 2024-12-15T19:43:28-0500

Wait.. not Adams.... a new experienced qualified General Manager needs to make that trade.

toddkaz · 2024-12-15T19:44:50-0500

What does it take for Adams to wake up and fix the defense.

elchud · 2024-12-15T19:46:05-0500

Ok we are trading wins/points for Porter Martone

CaliSabresfan24 · 2024-12-15T19:48:46-0500

SundherDome · 2024-12-15T20:03:14-0500

Beerz said:
Wait.. not Adams.... a new experienced qualified General Manager needs to make that trade.

I don't know if I want Chirelli making ng any deals

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T00:20:42-0500

TommyDangles said:
It's reality. Young guys at all time low value are not getting top 6 F or top 4 D back. That makes absolutely no sense.

What you get back in the real world is a package of futures or a similar young player that is struggling.

Mitts didn't struggle? Most of the people on these forums wanted him traded for a mid round pick a few years ago. Same with UPL that we should've dumped him on waivers.

I've literally said multiple times to use our picks/prospects to add to the other roster. Do not trade Quinn/Peterka/Power/Cozens. Do a better job of reading.

Yes so let's not get rid of the young players we developed and keep restarting the process. That reasoning is why we've missed the playoffs for the last 13 years. The fantasy land trades that you want do not exist.

I'm sick of you, this is a pointless argument. They get in certain deals, a package deal or a change of scenery. You realize we're going to have to trade someone to turn this team around.

We need roster spots for a new guy to fill. You read what I wrote, Mitts wasn't strruggle when we traded him.

You can't wait forever for ALL your young guys to develop, I don't care, I'll trade Power and Tuch and anyone to turn this team around, they're not going anywhere with this shitty roster.

HOCKEY DEALS, NO FOR FUTURES. They traded Eichel, Reinhart and almost everyone else for futures.

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T01:58:13-0500

Why are they sending Johnson to the AHL when he wasn't that bad and still playing with Bryson, Jokiharju and Gilbert? Johnson is almost 24, he has his own upside to his game and I think he would be good on the third pair with one of the physical guys. It doesn't make sense. Waive Bryson, send Jokiharju to the moon or Nashville. I don't understand who's making these decisions.

Benson and Quinn have high hockey IQ, you want to keep those players, less dumb players on the roster. We need to rebuild the top 6 and defense. I don't like this whole three PMD LDs thing. If we could get a top 6 C and top 4 RD in one deal that would be great, we need some good and reliable veterans.

Barzal + Pulock

Kadri + Weegar (I don't care about Kadri's contract or anything, but I watch him play and the dude puts in a lot of effort and I think he's from Ontario)

Something like this as an example.

Fly Boy · 2024-12-16T05:24:31-0500

Fjordy said:
Why are they sending Johnson to the AHL when he wasn't that bad and still playing with Bryson, Jokiharju and Gilbert? Johnson is almost 24, he has his own upside to his game and I think he would be good on the third pair with one of the physical guys. It doesn't make sense. Waive Bryson, send Jokiharju to the moon or Nashville. I don't understand who's making these decisions.

Benson and Quinn have high hockey IQ, you want to keep those players, less dumb players on the roster. We need to rebuild the top 6 and defense. I don't like this whole three PMD LDs thing. If we could get a top 6 C and top 4 RD in one deal that would be great, we need some good and reliable veterans.

Barzal + Pulock

Kadri + Weegar (I don't care about Kadri's contract or anything, but I watch him play and the dude puts in a lot of effort and I think he's from Ontario)

Something like this as an example.

Dude you're spending way too much time here. Forget about them. Go outside. Mow the lawn, catch some fish. Just do something that will make you happy.

It depresses me even more seeing the same people post here, because they think this might turn around.

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T05:34:31-0500

Fly Boy said:
Dude you're spending way too much time here. Forget about them. Go outside. Mow the lawn, catch some fish. Just do something that will make you happy.

It depresses me even more seeing the same people post here, because they think this might turn around.

I like hanging out here and you don't know me, man, good luck.

Jim Bob · 2024-12-16T08:25:42-0500

Fjordy said:
Why are they sending Johnson to the AHL when he wasn't that bad and still playing with Bryson, Jokiharju and Gilbert? Johnson is almost 24, he has his own upside to his game and I think he would be good on the third pair with one of the physical guys. It doesn't make sense. Waive Bryson, send Jokiharju to the moon or Nashville. I don't understand who's making these decisions.

Benson and Quinn have high hockey IQ, you want to keep those players, less dumb players on the roster. We need to rebuild the top 6 and defense. I don't like this whole three PMD LDs thing. If we could get a top 6 C and top 4 RD in one deal that would be great, we need some good and reliable veterans.

Barzal + Pulock

Kadri + Weegar (I don't care about Kadri's contract or anything, but I watch him play and the dude puts in a lot of effort and I think he's from Ontario)

Something like this as an example.

Johnson doesn't have to clear waivers and they needed the roster spot for Levi. It's as simple as that.

It's the same for why Kozak was sent down when Greenway was back.

Beerz · 2024-12-16T08:38:38-0500

Jim Bob said:
Johnson doesn't have to clear waivers and they needed the roster spot for Levi. It's as simple as that.

It's the same for why Kozak was sent down when Greenway was bcoaching.

That is the issue.

Leave Levi in Rochester for Christs Sake

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T08:42:38-0500

Jim Bob said:
Johnson doesn't have to clear waivers and they needed the roster spot for Levi. It's as simple as that.

It's the same for why Kozak was sent down when Greenway was back.

Do you want to win or have someone not take Bryson on waivers? That's ridiculous, waive these mediocre players and don't worry.

Beerz · 2024-12-16T09:03:55-0500

I would much rather Power for EP40 straight up. But maybe Canucks don't do it without Cozens idk.

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T09:09:18-0500

Beerz said:
I would much rather Power for EP40 straight up. But maybe Canucks don't do it without Cozens idk.

Pettersson should be more valuable than Power/Byram, despite Owen's potential. Cozens is bad right now and I don't even see a place for him on line up. I'd rather keep Quinn, who has a hockey IQ and has shown potential, than not smart Cozens.

If only it were Power + Cozens for EP40. I would try to bring return another piece from the Canucks even if we had to add prospect or pick.

Beerz · 2024-12-16T09:14:58-0500

Fjordy said:
Pettersson should be more valuable than Power/Byram, despite Owen's potential. Cozens is bad right now and I don't even see a place for him on line up. I'd rather keep Quinn, who has a hockey IQ and has shown potential, than not smart Cozens.

If only it were Power + Cozens for EP40. I would try to bring return another piece from the Canucks even if we had to add prospect or pick.

Probably which is too bad.. because I would like to use Cozens + to get Weegar out of Calgary

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T09:18:53-0500

Beerz said:
Probably which is too bad.. because I would like to use Cozens + to get Weegar out of Calgary

Well, I saw on their board that they wouldn't mind getting prospect+ for Andersson, there was no talk about Weegar, but maybe that would work too, something like Kulich+. Just why would the Canucks trade EP40 or even Miller where they're not bringing back someone like Cozens, then their center depth would suffer greatly.

Beerz · 2024-12-16T09:19:11-0500

Cozens + Joker + 1st for Weegar

Power + Krebs + ? for EP40

Fjordy said:
Well, I saw on their board that they wouldn't mind getting prospect+ for Andersson, there was no talk about Weegar, but maybe that would work too, something like Kulich+. Just why would the Canucks trade EP40 or even Miller where they're not bringing back someone like Cozens, then their center depth would suffer greatly.

They probably wouldn't ÷(

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T09:21:18-0500

Beerz said:
Cozens + Joker + 1st for Weegar

Power + Krebs + ? for EP40

I think our 1st is very valuable right now, given where we are. But we get two very good legit and expirience players to build around, in addition to the ones we already have.

Jim Bob · 2024-12-16T09:35:23-0500

Beerz said:
That is the issue.

Leave Levi in Rochester for Christs Sake

I don't hate giving Levi a handful of starts like this.

Before the season, I was calling for them to start Levi in Rochester and having him get a few of these types of games to keep him on his toes.

DapperCam · 2024-12-16T09:36:48-0500

I think what we are learning is that Dahlin is responsible for the majority (all?) of our wins. Which isn’t that surprising to me, but might be eye opening for the fans that are highly critical of him as he carries the weight of all these losers directly on his shoulders every game.

Jim Bob · 2024-12-16T09:37:13-0500

Beerz said:
Cozens + Joker + 1st for Weegar

Power + Krebs + ? for EP40

I wouldn't even consider trading that 1st unless it was lottery protected.

I think Cozens has enough value that if Conroy is in any way open to moving Weegar and his contract, that you can get Weegar for Cozens plus way less than Jokiharju and a 1st.

Fjordy said:
Do you want to win or have someone not take Bryson on waivers? That's ridiculous, waive these mediocre players and don't worry.

Ryan Johnson is not the difference between winning and losing.

My Cozen Dylan · 2024-12-16T09:38:36-0500

Beerz said:
I would much rather Power for EP40 straight up. But maybe Canucks don't do it without Cozens idk.

Acknowledging Friedman is pulling this out of his behind, but for my own delusion I am accepting it as 100% happening.

EP40 is the exact kind of player we are lacking. Tage as your 2C makes your roster infinitely better. I'd try to get Soucy back as well just to get some more edge on the backend.

Fjordy · 2024-12-16T09:39:32-0500

Jim Bob said:
Ryan Johnson is not the difference between winning and losing.

It is, if he is better than some other players in the squad. You just play with the best, not the worst.

Jim Bob · 2024-12-16T09:42:13-0500

Fjordy said:
It is, if he is better than some other players in the squad. You just play with the best, not the worst.

What is the Sabres W-L record with Ryan Johnson in the lineup this season?

How many of the last 10 games has Ryan Johnson played in?

The Sabres are 0-2-1 with Ryan Johnson in the lineup. I like him and he's not the difference between winning and losing right now.

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