The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Chainshot]

Here is a big problem: Imagine you are another GM. You put in years of hard work moving up the ladder and learning how to be an executive and gaining the qualifications needed to earn that position. Then you see Kevyn Adams, a man who has zero qualifications except being a loyal stooge to one of the most incompetent owners in the history of the sport. Are you going to have ANY respect for the guy? Are you going to treat him with the respect you would a GM who actually earned the position or will you treat him the way Brian Burke famously treated Garth Snow calling him and insultingly trying to Jedi Mind Trick him into trading the1OA pick that ended up being Tavares?

Eh, this is a league where so much of getting into executive positions is just who one knows and who one has worked for. It's a boys club.

 

[Dingo44]

 

[MagnumForce2]

I know it’s only a 1 game sample, but could
Ryan McLeod potentially be a 2C or a
top 6 forward?

 

[Fjordy]

If all these insiders are to be believed, Adams is looking for help forward.

 

[old kummelweck]

Personally i have no idea why people want to trade BO

I think for some, it's a contract thing. I think for others, they are butt-hurt about Mittens.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I disagree with your premise that puck moving D are only helpful on the powerplay.

That wasn’t my premise. My premise was having two elite #1 D who can run your first PP unit was a waste of assets.

 

[old kummelweck]

With Greenway out, maybe give Rousek or Kozak a call up.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

I think Power is going to be an excellent defenseman and have a long career.

But if I could flip him for Beniers, I would.

Besides the missing right shot defensemen we’d need, it would balance out the team immensely.

I wouldn’t do that trade for many, but Beniers is 22, 6’2” and a supposed leader.

I’d also like to set up the defense with only two left handed puck movers going forward.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I think Power is going to be an excellent defenseman and have a long career.

But if I could flip him for Beniers, I would.

Besides the missing right shot defensemen we’d need, it would balance out the team immensely.

I wouldn’t do that trade for many, but Beniers is 22, 6’2” and a supposed leader.

I’d also like to set up the defense with only two left handed puck movers going forward.

Beniers is a centre, not a right shot dman.

 

[Panthaz89]

Peyton Krebs has a 56.1% Faceoff win percentage. Puts him top 20 in the league with guys over 100 Face offs.

Is Krebs becoming useful?

I also see less fans scapegoating him this year(Still doing it just less)

I don't really get most beef with Krebs he's providing what he's supposed to in his current role.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I think Power is going to be an excellent defenseman and have a long career.

But if I could flip him for Beniers, I would.

Besides the missing right shot defensemen we’d need, it would balance out the team immensely.

I wouldn’t do that trade for many, but Beniers is 22, 6’2” and a supposed leader.

I’d also like to set up the defense with only two left handed puck movers going forward.

Wut

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Beniers and borgen for byram, Kulich , 1 pick

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Benson Thompson Tuch
Peterka Berniers Cozens

 

[sabremike]

Have we considered investing in clone technology and cloning Tage???

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Have we considered investing in clone technology and cloning Tage???

As long as we can change the DNA so the clone isn’t injury prone.

 

[sabremike]

As long as we can change the DNA so the clone isn’t injury prone.

 

[Jacob582]

Heather Engel:

"Per the the AHL’s transactions page, Jiri Kulich has been recalled from Rochester.

The NHL Media site shows that Tage Thompson has been placed on IR. That opens the roster spot.

No announcement yet from the Sabres."

 

[jc17]

If we trade for beniers I can only assume it doesn't involve power, we also go after luke Hughes, and win the cup in 2031. The Florida model

 

[Djp]

Dreger's report here should damper all expectations:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/~3029755

"Adams is willing to considering something bigger but he does not want to trade away any of his young talent"

I mean...it sounds like he's trying to go add players for just picks. So....expect very little if anything.

Hes looking st s hockey trsde, not selling off ayers for bbn picks

Maybe me putting words in his mouth but I take that as not trading young guys off the current roster. Not prospects

I can see him trading part vnn if 23 man players to manage cap space

It will be next season if you keep all three, re-signing Byram, re-signing Peterka, adding a vet RHD worth a damn, taking the Skinner buy-out penalty up to 6 mil...and still don't have a legit 2nd line. I'm all about worrying about cap space when that problem actually manifests itself, but that's going to happen next season, with less to show for it among the FW group, which is already struggling. That is not a problem you can just waive away. If the roster was balanced there might be less painful options to deal with it, but the roster is WAY off from being any more than a playoff bubble team. The rumor mill has KA looking for a FW upgrade right now, and that would take them within a couple mil of the cap if not closer.

Edit - didn't mention but should have - losing Zucker to Skinner's penalty, re-signing Greenway, Quinn, McLeod, NAK or an equivalent. Good luck with improving the FW group.

Here is a big problem: Imagine you are another GM. You put in years of hard work moving up the ladder and learning how to be an executive and gaining the qualifications needed to earn that position. Then you see Kevyn Adams, a man who has zero qualifications except being a loyal stooge to one of the most incompetent owners in the history of the sport. Are you going to have ANY respect for the guy? Are you going to treat him with the respect you would a GM who actually earned the position or will you treat him the way Brian Burke famously treated Garth Snow calling him and insultingly trying to Jedi Mind Trick him into trading the1OA pick that ended up being Tavares?

What is this crap....

With Greenway out, maybe give Rousek or Kozak a call up.

If greenway is out, then maybe some more physical

Beniers and borgen for byram, Kulich , 1 pick

Heather Engel:

"Per the the AHL’s transactions page, Jiri Kulich has been recalled from Rochester.

The NHL Media site shows that Tage Thompson has been placed on IR. That opens the roster spot.

No announcement yet from the Sabres."

IR can be back dated

 

[Djp]

It will be next season if you keep all three, re-signing Byram, re-signing Peterka, adding a vet RHD worth a damn, taking the Skinner buy-out penalty up to 6 mil...and still don't have a legit 2nd line. I'm all about worrying about cap space when that problem actually manifests itself, but that's going to happen next season, with less to show for it among the FW group, which is already struggling. That is not a problem you can just waive away. If the roster was balanced there might be less painful options to deal with it, but the roster is WAY off from being any more than a playoff bubble team. The rumor mill has KA looking for a FW upgrade right now, and that would take them within a couple mil of the cap if not closer.

Edit - didn't mention but should have - losing Zucker to Skinner's penalty, re-signing Greenway, Quinn, McLeod, NAK or an equivalent. Good luck with improving the FW group.

Assuming no trades occur....

They have about $31M in space with a 92M cap and under contract 7/4/1

at BG I see Levi getting $2M for a few yrs

3 spare players are around 3.5M combined

One of the F is an ELC at around 1M

Now at 10/5/2 with about 24.5M for 4 top 9 and 2 top 6 D

At D one is byram, the other should be a RD replacing Joker. RyJo could be called up taking one of those spots. If you resign Byram at 6M that takes 7M combined

10/7/2 with 17.5M

Now you have McLeod, peterka, and Quinn. I think you nerd yo give bridges on Peterka and Quinn. Right now Peterja shou ln d get more. McLeod gets signed for maybe 3-6 years?

If quinn gets 3 and Peterka get 5 for 3 yr bridges

Sign mcleod for 4.5M

NAK could be resigned as a 13F
Gilbert as 8D could be kept as 8D/14F/3G spot

Figure an ELC replacement of Zucker/Greenway spot which then leaves around $5M to sign a vet or resign one of them

 

[Dubi Doo]

What's everyone's thought about using Power as a sort of gadget player moving throughout pairs throughout the game. Byram and Dahlin are our best defensemen right now, so they should be getting the bulk of the minutes with Power a bit lower.

Im thinking this as a foundation:

Bryson-Dahlin
Dahlin gets 20+ mins a night/ Bryson around 15

Byram-Joki
Byram gets 20+mins a night/Joki around 15

Power-Clifton
Power gets around 20 mins a night/Clifton gets around 12 mins

The math probably doesn't workout, but The idea would be to allow Power to move up with Byram and Dahlin throughout the game. Mostly for offensive zone starts. On nights Buffalo is up big, he can play less minutes by not moving up as much. This allows him to play third pairing minutes with Clifton (easier matchups), and get a lot of O zone starts with dynamic players (One of his strengths).

Boy, one stay at home type to add to the top-4 would round out the defense nicely. Bryson and Joki can then battle for the final spot in the top-6.

The eye sore is obviously Bryson being on the top pairing + Joki still in the top-4, and that's why a top-4 RD would be such a good addition, but, keep in mind, their minutes will be limited because Power will be eating into their shifts. I also think Dahlin is coming more and more into form as the season has progressed, so he can probably carry Bryson around for 15 mins a night and still have that pairing as a net positive. Byram is playing some of his best hockey and Joki (while flawed) can usually exist with only a few hiccups throughout the game. Byram adds some physicality to that pairing at least.

 

[Fjordy]

What's everyone's thought about using Power as a sort of gadget player moving throughout pairs throughout the game. Byram and Dahlin are our best defensemen right now, so they should be getting the bulk of the minutes with Power a bit lower.

Im thinking this as a foundation:

Bryson-Dahlin
Dahlin gets 20+ mins a night/ Bryson around 15

Byram-Joki
Byram gets 20+mins a night/Joki around 15

Power-Clifton
Power gets around 20 mins a night/Clifton gets around 12 mins

The math probably doesn't workout, but The idea would be to allow Power to move up with Byram and Dahlin throughout the game. Mostly for offensive zone starts. On nights Buffalo is up big, he can play less minutes by not moving up as much. This allows him to play third pairing minutes with Clifton (easier matchups), and get a lot of O zone starts with dynamic players (One of his strengths).

Boy, one stay at home type to add to the top-4 would round out the defense nicely. Bryson and Joki can then battle for the final spot in the top-6.

The eye sore is obviously Bryson being on the top pairing + Joki still in the top-4, and that's why a top-4 RD would be such a good addition, but, keep in mind, their minutes will be limited because Power will be eating into their shifts. I also think Dahlin is coming more and more into form as the season has progressed, so he can probably carry Bryson around for 15 mins a night and still have that pairing as a net positive. Byram is playing some of his best hockey and Joki (while flawed) can usually exist with only a few hiccups throughout the game. Byram adds some physicality to that pairing at least.

I thought we had a pair of Byram - Dahlin and we just need to find a top 4 RD for Power. It seems to me that Power, on the contrary, needs stability, so that he has a reliable partner next to him and Power does not jump between different pairs.

But now you can try different ideas and see what works and what doesn't.

 

[Mattilaus]

i am on the weegar train. We can deal with the bad cap later, but i think he would be an excellent partner for Power.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

What's everyone's thought about using Power as a sort of gadget player moving throughout pairs throughout the game. Byram and Dahlin are our best defensemen right now, so they should be getting the bulk of the minutes with Power a bit lower.

Im thinking this as a foundation:

Bryson-Dahlin
Dahlin gets 20+ mins a night/ Bryson around 15

Byram-Joki
Byram gets 20+mins a night/Joki around 15

Power-Clifton
Power gets around 20 mins a night/Clifton gets around 12 mins

They did this last year.

 

[TehDoak]

Hes looking st s hockey trsde, not selling off ayers for bbn picks

I can see him trading part vnn if 23 man players to manage cap space

I mean, most of the roster are his 'talented young players'

The only real movable piece right now is Joker, and his value is probably at rock bottom currently given he's a regular healthy scratch with a 3M salary.

You COULD move Greenway, but I think most would argue he isn't part of the problem

Samuelsson is a problem, but with 4 years left at 4M for a regular healthy scratch, can't imagine he has much of a market.

If he wants to make a significant add, Adams is going to have to move some of his prospect hoard.