The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

Fjordy

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Power has been excellent.
I didn't like his defensive play and that he's still very soft for his size. I won't blame him completely though, as he still hasn't gotten a proper defensive partner for himself. But I liked his offensive play and I don't want to trade him.
 

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I just can't even with this. What is the point?

Byram is the redundant D not your two long term #1 D. Dahlin has been more gaffe prone this year, but he is elite at everything else statistically. Power has been excellent.

I consider Crouse and Tkachuk to be close to equal, and I’d rather trade Peterka for what the team needs instead of Peterka + Kulich + 2025 1st + Joker.
 

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I consider Crouse and Tkachuk to be close to equal, and I’d rather trade Peterka for what the team needs instead of Peterka + Kulich + 2025 1st + Joker.
Why trade Peterka for one or the other? He's our best winger, he's improving. There's no guarantee that Tkachuk or Crouse will move the needle and play as well or even better for us, but Peterka is already playing. You can try to get Crouse in another way, they need defense.
 

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Why trade Peterka for one or the other? He's our best winger, he's improving. There's no guarantee that Tkachuk or Crouse will move the needle and play as well or even better for us, but Peterka is already playing. You can try to get Crouse in another way, they need defense.
Quinn + _____ for Crouse (if he is even on the block) would be a much better idea to me.

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Come on what? You interpret my post as advocating for Dahlin to go? That's your problem. He's not untouchable, neither is Power...doesn't mean I'm advocating for any one of them to be traded over another. The fact is that the D-corps as a whole doesn't make sense. Some level of revamp needs to happen. Go put your head back in the sand if you don't like it or can't accept it.
 

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Come on what? You interpret my post as advocating for Dahlin to go? That's your problem. He's not untouchable, neither is Power...doesn't mean I'm advocating for any one of them to be traded over another. The fact is that the D-corps as a whole doesn't make sense. Some level of revamp needs to happen. Go put your head back in the sand if you don't like it or can't accept it.
We have a good D-corps that needs to be supplemented, not destroyed. Build around Dahlin and Power, that's all.
 
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We have a good D-corps that needs to be supplemented, not destroyed. Build around Dahlin and Power, that's all.
Trading any one of them does not "destroy" the group. Obviously in a vacuum, made up hypothetical scenario, Dahlin returns a top-tier player. Clearly he would be the last option to trade among the group, but he would bring back a great player that wouldn't "destroy" anything...unless of course KA does another stoopid (which is very possible regardless of who gets traded).
 

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Trading any one of them does not "destroy" the group. Obviously in a vacuum, made up hypothetical scenario, Dahlin returns a top-tier player. Clearly he would be the last option to trade among the group, but he would bring back a great player that wouldn't "destroy" anything...unless of course KA does another stoopid (which is very possible regardless of who gets traded).
Destroy because you don't know what's coming back. Although Dahlin and Thompson are untouchable to me. Power is not, but he's another player I don't want to trade. Why do we always need these trades? We haven't lost many good players in recent years who have gone on to other teams, and we continue our eternal rebuild and miss the playoffs. Just add good players to the roster without trading your good players, it's that simple, it's not rocket science, and other GMs do it.
 

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Destroy because you don't know what's coming back. Although Dahlin and Thompson are untouchable to me. Power is not, but he's another player I don't want to trade. Why do we always need these trades? We haven't lost many good players in recent years who have gone on to other teams, and we continue our eternal rebuild and miss the playoffs. Just add good players to the roster without trading your good players, it's that simple, it's not rocket science, and other GMs do it.
You're taking my posts into the deep end. In my world Byram never gets added, we still have a solid FW group, at least at C, and all that needs to be done is adding a vet RHD or so. But adding Byram just made the group more disjointed than it already was, and I'm trying not to be biased by posting "TRADE BYRAM". In fact, one puck-moving LHD needs to go in order to balance out the group with some combination of veteran defensive capability (preferably a right shot). I just don't care to go off on hypothetical trade scenarios for any/all of them...but one of them should be replaced by a vet defensive D-man. At this point I barely give a f--- who it is. It just has to happen.
 

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You're taking my posts into the deep end. In my world Byram never gets added, we still have a solid FW group, at least at C, and all that needs to be done is adding a vet RHD or so. But adding Byram just made the group more disjointed than it already was, and I'm trying not to be biased by posting "TRADE BYRAM". In fact, one puck-moving LHD needs to go in order to balance out the group with some combination of veteran defensive capability (preferably a right shot). I just don't care to go off on hypothetical trade scenarios for any/all of them...but one of them should be replaced by a vet defensive D-man. At this point I barely give a f--- who it is. It just has to happen.
I care who it is. Trade Byram? Ok. Although we can get top 4 RD without trading Byram and I already showed it here.
 
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I care who it is. Trade Byram? Ok. Although we can get top 4 RD without trading Byram and I already showed it here.
That's fine that you care who gets traded, but the particular player that gets traded won't determine if the group gets "destroyed". That will be determined by the GM that isn't very good at figuring out what his roster needs, and whether he approves a trade that simply isn't right or returns poor value.
 

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That's fine that you care who gets traded, but the particular player that gets traded won't determine if the group gets "destroyed". That will be determined by the GM that isn't very good at figuring out what his roster needs, and whether he approves a trade that simply isn't right or returns poor value.
For me it will be. Okay, forget it. But yeah, our GM is an idiot.
 

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I consider Crouse and Tkachuk to be close to equal, and I’d rather trade Peterka for what the team needs instead of Peterka + Kulich + 2025 1st + Joker.
Are you aware he has 4 points in 16 games?

Quinn + _____ for Crouse (if he is even on the block) would be a much better idea to me.

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Checking in on one of the hot names that has been getting thrown around and.....

:popcorn:
Not trying to trade struggling Quinn for other struggling players.
 

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cool, thank you

so, what would you pay? , probably overpay right.... I suppose a pur 1st rd pick and prospect to buy/ trade for a top 4 D man to calm our group , that would set a positive example like Craig Anderson but ten years younger w 1 year and half left right?

also intuitive enough to communicate ,in game w wing/center, to truly let dahlin, byram and power improvise and skate it up ice with confidence someone always had their back and is physical but way more talented ( to eat 20 min plus but mainly to actually have our cocky number one overalls listen to and respect a hedman or lidstrom , fetisov larionov etc

quite the tall order mid season but necessary to have faith in this squad . remember bottoril failing to overpay to help w shots of him on camera agonizing In press box. . We seem at a similar precipice, but this time our cupboard is full should we fail.


help Kevyn, w a why, out.

I'm curious what you would do ?

I think you know more about both teams than most on the boards .

Moving this from the Amerk thread.

If you mean who would be the player(s) they package? Probably they will offer Rosen IMO. Up to Kulich coming back, he was certainly running the show down there in Rochester. He's very close and the Ehlers comps seem like they fit - he should be a good puck transitioning player who can add speed and some creativity out of the middle lines who is very close to being an NHL contributor. If he wasn't automatically deferring to Kulich since Jiri's return, I'd probably feel stronger about his play. They have a possible replacement right there in Neuchev who already is more involved physically than Rosen was at the same age.

As for what to target, that also means something has to go the other way. Jokiharju, Samuelsson seem like the NHL level pieces that might move. Jokiharju as a modestly priced RHD with good fancy stats on an expiring deal should be able to get some value traction even if it is viewed as a pure rental. RHD UFA at the deadline have a chunk of value. Sammy... hurt again and the long term deal are going to hurt his value. That's too much risk for most teams. Dealing Bryson is just moving a body to move a body/clear a roster space so while that's possible, I wouldn't think that's helpful to getting a deal done.
 

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I have a nightmare that they make a move for a particular RHD who Ruff once coached who seems to be good for very little but injuring opponents and being caved in defensively but he's all sorts of tough and throw-back and all that silliness.



Yes, it's the nightmare of doing the Rangers a solid and taking on Trouba.
 

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I care who it is. Trade Byram? Ok. Although we can get top 4 RD without trading Byram and I already showed it here.
Exactly - by don’t folks get need to keep Bryam AND ADD someone - otherwise we are treading water

Moving this from the Amerk thread.

If you mean who would be the player(s) they package? Probably they will offer Rosen IMO. Up to Kulich coming back, he was certainly running the show down there in Rochester. He's very close and the Ehlers comps seem like they fit - he should be a good puck transitioning player who can add speed and some creativity out of the middle lines who is very close to being an NHL contributor. If he wasn't automatically deferring to Kulich since Jiri's return, I'd probably feel stronger about his play. They have a possible replacement right there in Neuchev who already is more involved physically than Rosen was at the same age.

As for what to target, that also means something has to go the other way. Jokiharju, Samuelsson seem like the NHL level pieces that might move. Jokiharju as a modestly priced RHD with good fancy stats on an expiring deal should be able to get some value traction even if it is viewed as a pure rental. RHD UFA at the deadline have a chunk of value. Sammy... hurt again and the long term deal are going to hurt his value. That's too much risk for most teams. Dealing Bryson is just moving a body to move a body/clear a roster space so while that's possible, I wouldn't think that's helpful to getting a deal done.
Buyout Sammy next year ( 1/3 out is good) and trade henri now who will have value as a rhd - more then folks think - and get a D with other assets to fill out top 4 ( looking at you petterson in pit : ) )
 
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Exactly - by don’t folks get need to keep Bryam AND ADD someone - otherwise we are treading water
No, well I'm not against trading Byram if we get another defenseman return in the deal and then add someone like Murphy/Whitecloud/Carrier to play with Power. But simply trading Byram for help up attack seems questionable, we'll be left with Jokiharju and Bryson in the top 4 again.
 

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Exactly - by don’t folks get need to keep Bryam AND ADD someone - otherwise we are treading water


Buyout Sammy next year ( 1/3 out is good) and trade henri now who will have value as a rhd - more then folks think - and get a D with other assets to fill out top 4 ( looking at you petterson in pit : ) )
Hopefully these moves are made by a real GM and not Terry Pegula's bitch boy.
 

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I have a nightmare that they make a move for a particular RHD who Ruff once coached who seems to be good for very little but injuring opponents and being caved in defensively but he's all sorts of tough and throw-back and all that silliness.



Yes, it's the nightmare of doing the Rangers a solid and taking on Trouba.
They aren't dumb enough to go for a pig like trouba , well I hope . rumors they were targeting pesce ? so.who us similar? I can't imagine they can acquire anyone that isn't over 29 , 30 who would dahlin and power respect that may be able to be pried away for a price


the forward type you propose seems right and within their need and philosophy and may not be needed til closer til the deadline forcing our lord fauntleroys to esrn help


the D seems necessary now novikov seems like our future any others w Sammy and joki that may get us real help now or are untouchable w a high upside? to get them to earn a forward for Christmas.


do you know anyone available D that our guys may admire and listen to that aren't dirty pricks that take short cuts that won't fly w the scrutiny we get in buffalo nor could I watch a team that had a pietrangelo axe murderer or trouba targeting guys cowardly to injure , both captains in this shite league

Ottawa might build a statue of you at the arena.
yeah Jaeger we don't employ or trade for mentally challenged orcs in buffalo, yes I called Brady an Orc
 

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GMKA likes his team but not the inconsistency of his team and is listening to things around the league.

Teams are asking about Byrum which does not make sense right now. So that leaves a prospect pool and players on expiring's.
 

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GMKA likes his team but not the inconsistency of his team and is listening to things around the league.

Teams are asking about Byrum which does not make sense right now. So that leaves a prospect pool and players on expiring's.
We definitely have enough assets to add top 4 RD and top 6 F.
 
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Hopefully these moves are made by a real GM and not Terry Pegula's bitch boy.
let's forced them in fan chess moves to be that real GM ( althoyg5i think they've been on this since ruff was acquired and targeting drury has my respect for sure

I think karmanos and him together are fine but I'm not in the room and have no idea as I hope even if yr right he watches the botteril hanging himself timeline and videos to grow a pair and help the team now


for the record I think they've been onthis5 for awhile and give them credit for understanding they must accelerate possibilities and plans they thought they might avoid til deadline they might get away w it anyway and we all may bevwring as I totally trust ruffs influence and I trust they are all many steps ahead of all of us I was just asking chainshot how it all may go down and when and w who
 

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