The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Samsonite23]

*Looks at Necas’s numbers*

That guy may have helped us…

 

[Fjordy]

Well now we need to get a top 6 forward and fix the second line.

 

[Gras]

Well now we need to get a top 6 forward and fix the second line.

So we replacing Quinn already

 

[Fjordy]

So we replacing Quinn already

I'm not saying that we're replacing Quinn specifically, but we need to fix the second line without breaking up the first and third, imo.

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853773012102775075

This whole episode sums up the situation well:

Kevyn Adams needs to add a top 6 forward at a time when teams aren't selling top 6 forwards.

They talked about the Vanek to the Islanders trade and the Eichel to Vegas trades as examples.

But, who is available like that is the challenge...

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853773012102775075

This whole episode sums up the situation well:

Kevyn Adams needs to add a top 6 forward at a time when teams aren't selling top 6 forwards.

They talked about the Vanek to the Islanders trade and the Eichel to Vegas trades as examples.

But, who is available like that is the challenge...

Calgary might shop Mantha.

 

[stealth1]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853773012102775075

This whole episode sums up the situation well:

Kevyn Adams needs to add a top 6 forward at a time when teams aren't selling top 6 forwards.

They talked about the Vanek to the Islanders trade and the Eichel to Vegas trades as examples.

But, who is available like that is the challenge...

Agreed. Outside of a few really good teams, majority are with in a few points of each other. I don't see many wanting to make any moves at this point. If some teams start to fall back then maybe a trade happens.

Also with the way things have been you don't see much trade action happening during the season

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I wonder if/when some of Bostons older guns want to move.

 

[Jim Bob]

Calgary might shop Mantha.

Mantha is 10th in EV TOI/GP amongst Calgary's forwards this season and 8th in total EV TOI. I do not see him being a solid top 6 guy at this point in his career.

 

[Fjordy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853773012102775075

This whole episode sums up the situation well:

Kevyn Adams needs to add a top 6 forward at a time when teams aren't selling top 6 forwards.

They talked about the Vanek to the Islanders trade and the Eichel to Vegas trades as examples.

But, who is available like that is the challenge...

This is Adams' problem and no one else's, he didn't add a top 6 F in the offseason, now we don't have a second line.

Let him call the teams that are going to go after Hagens anyway, let him call a team like Calgary, Flyers,

 

[TehDoak]

Realistically, there are no external options right now unless a we can do a player for player move.
The worst team in the league is 5 points out of a playoff spot. So no selling is happening right now.

Start with what we have:

Figure out how to get the defense to work effectively and within Ruff's system. Benching Samuelsson and Joker seemed to help.

Then, figure out how to get your middle two lines sorted, including players from Rochester.

Top line is fine, bottom line is whatever. It's getting a contribution from that middle six that will push the needle. Can't be a one line team.

We aren't at a crisis mode yet, the parity in the league has worked to our advantage. But....the team needs to find its identity and find it fast.

 

[TageGod]

For what it's worth, Quinn looked about 80% of the Quinn we know yesterday. He is looking more like himself.

 

[Fjordy]

Weekes: Teams interested in Trent Frederic

 

[Weltschmerz]

This is Adams' problem and no one else's, he didn't add a top 6 F in the offseason, now we don't have a second line.

Let him call the teams that are going to go after Hagens anyway, let him call a team like Calgary, Flyers,

It seems like a healthy Benson already helped a bit, they had a long extended shift in the sens end yesterday, and noone was expecting Quinn and Cozens to have such a bad start.

 

[Fjordy]

It seems like a healthy Benson already helped a bit, they had a long extended shift in the sens end yesterday, and noone was expecting Quinn and Cozens to have such a bad start.

Well, yeah, no one really expected it, so some of us talked in the offseason about adding a proven top 6 forward.

 

[Zman5778]

For what it's worth, Quinn looked about 80% of the Quinn we know yesterday. He is looking more like himself.

Yeah, I really do think that the solution for what "ails" the top 6 is in-house.

The not in-house solution is a legit top 4 RHD who is defense first and can PK. Yeah, they're coming in Kleber and Strbak.......but they're going to need 2 years. We need a bridge to those guys.

 

[Fjordy]

Yeah, I really do think that the solution for what "ails" the top 6 is in-house.

The not in-house solution is a legit top 4 RHD who is defense first and can PK. Yeah, they're coming in Kleber and Strbak.......but they're going to need 2 years. We need a bridge to those guys.

How many games am willing to wait until Cozens and Quinn start scoring points and winning games on a regular basis? I agree about the top 4 RD, but it was needed yesterday, even if Bryson already looks better than Sammy and Jokiharju.

 

[toddkaz]

A lot of rumors in the offseason had the sabres connected to Necas and Ehlers.

Not sure if it was a failure by Adams to offer enough or it was just that....rumors.

 

[TageGod]

So is Kubel just a scratch?

 

[Fjordy]

A lot of rumors in the offseason had the sabres connected to Necas and Ehlers.

Not sure if it was a failure by Adams to offer enough or it was just that....rumors.

Who knows, there was a rumor that Adams first offered Savoie to Canes for Drury, but they decline. Maybe there was no interest in Necas. Although Adams was angry when the press leaked information that Adams was trying to get Necas because of this allegedly Carolina raised сost.

 

[toddkaz]

Where do you go hunting for a top 6? Its pretty much wait and see on who misses the playoffs or if there is some low IQ GM who would trade away a 2C for a defenseman.

 

[Mattilaus]

Where do you go hunting for a top 6? Its pretty much wait and see on who misses the playoffs or if there is some low IQ GM who would trade away a 2C for a defenseman.

Okay but which teams would be stupid enough to do that?

 

[toddkaz]

This team will miss the playoffs unless Adams improves the top 6 and perhaps even a 5-6 stay at home physical defenceman, a Mike Weber type.

Will Adams do anything? no.

 

[jc17]

Where do you go hunting for a top 6? Its pretty much wait and see on who misses the playoffs or if there is some low IQ GM who would trade away a 2C for a defenseman.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852145425827930176

Maybe the preds would shake it up and give us Novak for some "help" on the back end

 

[Chainshot]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852145425827930176

Maybe the preds would shake it up and give us Novak for some "help" on the back end

I'm not sure Novak's a 2nd liner/top 6 help. Nashville tends to keep his ES TOI in the third line range. 2nd PP and absolutely no PKing time (both this year and last).