The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Fjordy]

As I thought, Dahlin had been playing with an injury all this time and was not fully healthy.

 

[MOGlLNY]

As I thought, Dahlin had been playing with an injury all this time and was not fully healthy.

I think most of us figured this but where did you read this confirmed

 

[Fjordy]

I think most of us figured this but where did you read this confirmed

Ruff said this today, at the end of the video (4:30 time).

 

[BFLO]

Ruff said this today, at the end of the video (4:30 time).

Thank goodness that's it's a confirmed injury that has been hampering him. And not him just losing his mojo

 

[sabremike]

Thank goodness that's it's a confirmed injury that has been hampering him. And not him just losing his mojo

The fact he missed lots of training camp and preseason was pretty good evidence this was the case.

 

[elchud]

Optimistic that we've seen this team at its worst and that things can only get better. 10 points in the next 8 games and we're in good shape.

I don't know how we fix this roster if things don't get better. Byram is the only real chip we have and I don't know what RHD are even available.

 

[Fjordy]

Optimistic that we've seen this team at its worst and that things can only get better. 10 points in the next 8 games and we're in good shape.

I don't know how we fix this roster if things don't get better. Byram is the only real chip we have and I don't know what RHD are even available.

We don't have to trade Byram. We have Jokiharju, picks and prospects. But there may be problems with the availability of RD, it seems there are almost no options for trading, Adams should have taken care of this earlier.

 

[elchud]

We don't have to trade Byram. We have Jokiharju, picks and prospects. But there may be problems with the availability of RD, it seems there are almost no options for trading, Adams should have taken care of this earlier.

We need to add a RHD and not move Joker.

Needs are ... same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Top 4 RHD, 2C, big physical winger.

If Cozens moves to wing, Quinn and Krebs and Rosen I guess are all on the table for a 2C. But who the hell wants to trade a 2C (besides us when we traded Mitts last year). And Byram is a luxury.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

We need to add a RHD and not move Joker.

Needs are ... same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Top 4 RHD, 2C, big physical winger.

If Cozens moves to wing, Quinn and Krebs and Rosen I guess are all on the table for a 2C. But who the hell wants to trade a 2C (besides us when we traded Mitts last year). And Byram is a luxury.

After the last 13+ years, We should be living like “Life during wartime!!!”

 

[Jim Bob]

We don't have to trade Byram. We have Jokiharju, picks and prospects. But there may be problems with the availability of RD, it seems there are almost no options for trading, Adams should have taken care of this earlier.

Flames' Conroy knows his team still needs a centre, despite their record

The Calgary Flames are looking for another centre. They have been ever since they lost Elias Lindholm nine months ago. It’s not new.

www.sportsnet.ca

Knowing what you need and filling that need are two different things.

Conroy knows that they have a huge need for a young center. But, filling that need has been a challenge.

I wonder if Adams had offered Mitts for Rasmus Andersson last year if he would have taken it, for instance...

For Adams, I doubt Jokiharju+____ gets another GM to give them a much better RHD unless there are mitigating factors like the player being close to UFA and being unlikely to re-sign or something like that. And I doubt Adams trades for a guy that is a flight risk.

 

[michaelsaas]

We need to add a RHD and not move Joker.

Needs are ... same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Top 4 RHD, 2C, big physical winger.

If Cozens moves to wing, Quinn and Krebs and Rosen I guess are all on the table for a 2C. But who the hell wants to trade a 2C (besides us when we traded Mitts last year). And Byram is a luxury.

This is not my Top 4RHD!! This is not my 2C!!

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Flames' Conroy knows his team still needs a centre, despite their record

The Calgary Flames are looking for another centre. They have been ever since they lost Elias Lindholm nine months ago. It’s not new.

www.sportsnet.ca

Knowing what you need and filling that need are two different things.

Conroy knows that they have a huge need for a young center. But, filling that need has been a challenge.

I wonder if Adams had offered Mitts for Rasmus Andersson last year if he would have taken it, for instance...

For Adams, I doubt Jokiharju+____ gets another GM to give them a much better RHD unless there are mitigating factors like the player being close to UFA and being unlikely to re-sign or something like that. And I doubt Adams trades for a guy that is a flight risk.

Kadri for Cozens would be a roster shake up for both teams. Not saying a good one, but I could see it if Cozens continues to suck.

 

[Matt Ress]

I know it's easy and trendy to blame Adams but the defense is way more talented than they are performing.

Kadri for Cozens would be a roster shake up for both teams. Not saying a good one, but I could see it if Cozens continues to suck.

Seems like the opposite of an Adams move.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

I know it's easy and trendy to blame Adams but the defense is way more talented than they are performing.

They aren’t the right blend, though. Raw talent can only go so far, especially when your 3 top players are left handed offensive defensemen.

Jokiharju isn’t good and Samuelsson’s consistently horrible decisions don’t make up the other shortcomings.

 

[Fjordy]

Flames' Conroy knows his team still needs a centre, despite their record

The Calgary Flames are looking for another centre. They have been ever since they lost Elias Lindholm nine months ago. It’s not new.

www.sportsnet.ca

Knowing what you need and filling that need are two different things.

Conroy knows that they have a huge need for a young center. But, filling that need has been a challenge.

I wonder if Adams had offered Mitts for Rasmus Andersson last year if he would have taken it, for instance...

For Adams, I doubt Jokiharju+____ gets another GM to give them a much better RHD unless there are mitigating factors like the player being close to UFA and being unlikely to re-sign or something like that. And I doubt Adams trades for a guy that is a flight risk.

That's why I said there are basically no options on the market. Andersson is not even the type of player we need.

Joki + 1st + solid prospect they could probably give us a top 4 RD but that's basically a trade with a team that's rebuilding, anyway i just couldn't find any reasonable options even though i looked at all the NHL RDs yesterday.

We need to add a RHD and not move Joker.

Needs are ... same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Top 4 RHD, 2C, big physical winger.

If Cozens moves to wing, Quinn and Krebs and Rosen I guess are all on the table for a 2C. But who the hell wants to trade a 2C (besides us when we traded Mitts last year). And Byram is a luxury.

Well, Joker won't have a place in the top 4, only in the third pair, no problem.

Adams can't add a winger, 2C is out of the question.

 

[old kummelweck]

It is going to take a bit of time to undo what was done under Granato on the D. I'm curious why they kept the same coach to work with them and if this is actually the right approach.

 

[Fjordy]

I know it's easy and trendy to blame Adams but the defense is way more talented than they are performing.

That's his defense. Okay, Dahlin is playing injured. But he has no chemistry with Jokiharju. Top 4 RD still missing. Byram is left-handed, we needed a right-hander. Power is developing, and it seems to be going well. Ruff says he doesn't like it when a guy plays on the wrong side. Samuelsson is deteriorating, plagued by injuries, Clifton is just a physical guy from the third pair.

Adams created this defense himself, he could have done it differently.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

That's his defense. Okay, Dahlin is playing injured. But he has no chemistry with Jokiharju. Top 4 RD still missing. Byram is left-handed, we needed a right-hander. Power is developing, and it seems to be going well. Ruff says he doesn't like it when a guy plays on the wrong side. Samuelsson is deteriorating, plagued by injuries, Clifton is just a physical guy from the third pair.

Adams created this defense himself, he could have done it differently.

I don’t even think it needs to be a right hander. You could get an elite defensively responsible LHD to partner with Dahlin which could work too.

 

[Fjordy]

I don’t even think it needs to be a right hander. You could get an elite defensively responsible LHD to partner with Dahlin which could work too.

Yes, but four lefties in the top 4 is strange, and when the coach says that he doesn’t like it in principle.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Yes, but four lefties in the top 4 is strange, and when the coach says that he doesn’t like it in principle.

I believe the 05-06 team had 5 lefties in the top-6. It can work with the right mix.

Factoring in the trade options, I think defensive LHD is a better route.

 

[Matt Ress]

They aren’t the right blend, though. Raw talent can only go so far, especially when your 3 top players are left handed offensive defensemen.

Jokiharju isn’t good and Samuelsson’s consistently horrible decisions don’t make up the other shortcomings.

Well that's it. They need to develop raw talent into high performing talent. I agree that the group is wonky but they should still be better than what they're showing.

 

[TageGod]

Just get Samuelsson off the ice and you drop an entire goal per game against.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Just get Samuelsson off the ice and you drop an entire goal per game against.

I think it’s time to sell on him while another GM still thinks he is good. You can still get a 1st round value (ideally a roster player) based on his playing style and age. But that contract looks like it will age like milk and selling now makes a lot of sense.

 

[joshjull]

Just get Samuelsson off the ice and you drop an entire goal per game against.

Same with Byram and Power isn’t far behind with 6 goals against. Although they play much more. But still, Yuck

 

[TageGod]

I think it’s time to sell on him while another GM still thinks he is good. You can still get a 1st round value (ideally a roster player) based on his playing style and age. But that contract looks like it will age like milk and selling now makes a lot of sense.

If I can get a first, he is gone yesterday.