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TehDoak said:
Considering this seems to happen nearly every year, Joker must be putting in the work during the off season and come off very well in practice.

Feels like every may/june, the general vibe is "eh, just trade him" and every October he starts out on the top pairing. There are plenty of very hardworking/skilled guys who simply don't have the aptitude to play big roles during a long season. Kind of feels like Joker has earned some playtime and leash and will likely lose it over the course of the season.
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Jokers either with Dahlin or in the pressbox, he doesnt fit with Power and can't play his off. Power-Byram has looked decent so dont really want to break them up and we're not gonna play Dahlin-Clifton
 
Gras said:
Jokers either with Dahlin or in the pressbox, he doesnt fit with Power and can't play his off. Power-Byram has looked decent so dont really want to break them up and we're not gonna play Dahlin-Clifton
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Peters was pushing for a Dahlin-Clifton pairing on the podcast. He also wants to trade Power still, not sure he’s a great hockey mind
 
Gras said:
Jokers either with Dahlin or in the pressbox, he doesnt fit with Power and can't play his off. Power-Byram has looked decent so dont really want to break them up and we're not gonna play Dahlin-Clifton
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I actually like Joker on the 3rd pairing. He has been fine with Sammy and Johnson. Ruff just has to keep him away from Power and Byram.
 
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Buffalo Sabres​


Present Outlook (Rating: 4.2)

The Sabres are still trying to take a leap toward the playoffs and the current core still only lands on the cusp. A rise to the franchise tier for Rasmus Dahlin could move the needle, as could a return to form from Tage Thompson.

Beyond them, more young players need to show they can be difference-makers, whether that’s the two who made the top 150 (Owen Power, Dylan Cozens) or the several who might do so in the future. How every player develops will dictate where the Sabres stand this season — but it likely won’t be anywhere near the top of the league.

Future Outlook (Rating: 8.4)

The Sabres lingered in the rebuild phase a little longer than they (and their fans) would have liked, but they have (and their fans are probably tired of hearing this, too) come out of it with an abundance of young talent that they should be able to build around.

They’ve got two of the best young goalies in the game, a nice luxury in today’s NHL which should ensure one is going. They’ve got a strong young foursome on D in Rasmus Dahlin (24), Owen Power (21), Mattias Samuelsson (24), and Bowen Byram (23) that should continue to grow together and hopefully be well-supported by one or two of Ryan Johnson, Nikita Novikov, Vsevolod Komarov, Maxim Strbak and Adam Kleber — none of whom were captured in the Future Rating but all of whom have a chance. And they’ve got an NHL team up front that includes Tage Thompson, Alex Tuch, Dylan Cozens, Jack Quinn, Zach Benson and J.J. Peterka already, with a strong pool led by Konsta Helenius, Jiri Kulich, Noah Ostlund and Isak Rosen coming behind them.

Path to contention

Their challenge may become the one the Kings faced in recent years. There may be too many young players pushing and not enough jobs. That could eventually water down their value — especially when none of the players in that NHL group or prospects group up front rise to the level that Dahlin does on the back end as a true franchise type (are they missing that elite-level forward?). We’ve already seen the early effects of that in the Matt Savoie trade and it’s going to be fascinating to watch them navigate integrating the kids while trying to get better.

The next level — jumping from strong Future Rating to strong Present Rating is always the hardest and has eluded the Sabres for over a decade. They’ll need to play this next chapter just right, strike the perfect balance, and count on their young goaltending pair to be ready to step up when the team finally is.

Present Stars
Tier 3: Rasmus Dahlin, Tage Thompson
Tier 5: Owen Power, Alex Tuch, Dylan Cozens

Future Stars
Tier 3: Rasmus Dahlin, Owen Power
Tier 4: Zach Benson, Konsta Helenius, Tage Thompson, JJ Peterka
Tier 5: Dylan Cozens, Jiri Kulich, Noah Ostlund
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Sabre the Win said:
What's tier 1 and 2 if Dahlin isn't on either of them
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Tier 1 — MVP
A top 10 player. Someone who is very likely to get serious trophy consideration at season’s end and whom championship-caliber teams are built around. The best player on almost any team in the league.

Tier 2 — Franchise
A top 30 player. Someone who is the best player on a contending team or second best on a championship-caliber team. An unquestionably elite player.

Tier 3 — All-Star
A top 60 player. Someone who wouldn’t be the best player on a contender, but would be an important part of any contending or championship core. A strong top-line forward, above average No. 1 defenseman, or borderline top five goalie.
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And filtering on just D:

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