The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Ace]

So we can cross Dylan Cozens off the list of what Detroit is looking at.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Those two chuckleheads as a "source" makes me wonder if this is real.

Peters did break the biggest trade in franchise history so I would like to think they have some connection within the organization but he also throws a lot of shit at the wall.

 

[Ace]

Kulich, not Peterka.

This is normally where I would make a grand argument for keeping Kulich over Peterka…but since Peterka needs to be paid first…situation would take care of itself anyway.

 

[Chainshot]

Peters did break the biggest trade in franchise history so I would like to think they have some connection within the organization but he also throws a lot of shit at the wall.

Because he has a strong personal relationship with Tuch's younger brother due to coaching him in youth hockey. That's it. That's all they've ever broken.

 

[Ace]

Peters did break the biggest trade in franchise history so I would like to think they have some connection within the organization but he also throws a lot of shit at the wall.

Peters broke Hasek for Beauregard? As a 12 year old? Damn. Props to him.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Because he has a strong personal relationship with Tuch's younger brother due to coaching him in youth hockey. That's it. That's all they've ever broken.

Tuch said it didn't come from his family and they had no clue it happened until after the fact.

It is all Petrs has broken you're right but it was one of the biggest trades this organization has seen in a while.

Peters broke Hasek for Beauregard? As a 12 year old? Damn. Props to him.

Sorry *One of the biggest*

 

[Steddy33]

I hate to say it because it's awful but this screams Cozens for Rasmussen.

 

[Sabre the Win]

So the Canucks coach didnt rule out Pettersson being moved.. This is something the Sabres should really look into, move Cozens + and bring in Elias and then you have Thompson and Elias Pettersson as the top of your center spine.

 

[slip]

What's the f***ing point of even attempting to pull off a trade at this point? Team is dead last in the conference heading into the New Year and practically assured of missing the playoffs for the 14th straight season. The time for wheeling and dealing to alter locker room chemistry and improve the lineup was literally the day Adam's gave his presser. Here's some business advice, moron: better to panic early when you can actually stave off disaster, rather than panic late when destruction is all but assured.

 

[The Red Helmet]

What's the f***ing point of even attempting to pull off a trade at this point? Team is dead last in the conference heading into the New Year and practically assured of missing the playoffs for the 14th straight season. The time for wheeling and dealing to alter locker room chemistry and improve the lineup was literally the day Adam's gave his presser. Here's some business advice, moron: better to panic early when you can actually stave off disaster, rather than panic late when destruction is all but assured.

The point is when you have a chance to get a number 1 franchise center who is locked up long term and you don't have one, you would be an idiot not to look into it. I'm not a Power hater but I would do him for Pettersson straight up. If you could get Pettersson for Byram, Cozens and another piece I would rather do that. I would feel pretty good about the future with Dahlin, Pettersson and Tage as our top 3 core going forward.

 

[Chainshot]

What's the f***ing point of even attempting to pull off a trade at this point? Team is dead last in the conference heading into the New Year and practically assured of missing the playoffs for the 14th straight season. The time for wheeling and dealing to alter locker room chemistry and improve the lineup was literally the day Adam's gave his presser. Here's some business advice, moron: better to panic early when you can actually stave off disaster, rather than panic late when destruction is all but assured.

Look at it another way though - They have to take swings when opportunities arise. Yes, this season is in the toilet but waiting for summer to try to get things sorted out is again waiting too long.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Look at it another way though - They have to take swings when opportunities arise. Yes, this season is in the toilet but waiting for summer to try to get things sorted out is again waiting too long.

Agree.

Part of the reason teams tank is to bring in high end talent.... specifically centers.

Edmonton drafted McDavid and Draisaitl, both centers.
Buffalo drafted Eichel and Reinhart. Reinhart was drafted as a center.
Toronto drafted Matthews

Top line centers are so hard to find that teams are willing to tank to draft them. When one is available in a trade, and that center is still in his prime years, you take a swing.

 

[jc17]

I hate to say it because it's awful but this screams Cozens for Rasmussen.

In what way is that being screamed?

What's the f***ing point of even attempting to pull off a trade at this point? Team is dead last in the conference heading into the New Year and practically assured of missing the playoffs for the 14th straight season. The time for wheeling and dealing to alter locker room chemistry and improve the lineup was literally the day Adam's gave his presser. Here's some business advice, moron: better to panic early when you can actually stave off disaster, rather than panic late when destruction is all but assured.

I think it's been pretty clear that they don't/ won't make trades for just anyone

Byram, malenstyn, McLeod, necas/ehlers were specific guys they wanted, not simply a top 4 D, bottom line guy, depth C.

Like byram last year, they wanted him and struck while he was available. A trade could happen if there's another player they like becomes available, rather than a change in the sabres willingness to trade

So the Canucks coach didnt rule out Pettersson being moved.. This is something the Sabres should really look into, move Cozens + and bring in Elias and then you have Thompson and Elias Pettersson as the top of your center spine.

Anyone have an evolving hockey subscription and know how many/ which other players in the league put up war numbers as good as EP last few years?

 

[slip]

Look at it another way though - They have to take swings when opportunities arise. Yes, this season is in the toilet but waiting for summer to try to get things sorted out is again waiting too long.

The odds of Adams connecting on a hanging curve ball over then center of the plate is low. The odds of Adams swinging wildly at a pitch high and outside is much higher. I don't have confidence in his ability to execute a trade mid season that actually improves the roster for the next season and beyond. I don't think there is a GM in all of hockey than is dealing from such as position of weakness as this guy.

 

[Steddy33]

In what way is that being screamed?

Both players have been rumored in trade talks(even if you don't trust the sources there's smoke). Both players have similar age, draft stock. Both players underperforming. Similar to Mittlestadt for Byram, the trade doesn't make sense for the Sabres positionally. Chairot to even out the money.

Like I said, awful

 

[slip]

Like byram last year, they wanted him and struck while he was available. A trade could happen if there's another player they like becomes available, rather than a change in the sabres willingness to trade

This is another concern with Adams. I question the logic of targeting Byram when it failed to address the bigger holes on D, while trading away Mitts, thereby creating some big holes at center. Not sure this guy knows how to build a roster vs. laser focused on opaque things like "value" or "best player available" when drafting.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I think this roster construction project takes this season and the off-season. Why not begin now? I wonder if Vancouver would think about Power for Pettersson. Because having a Pettersson - Thompson combo as your top two center would be pretty amazing.

Dahlin on the PP with options to go to Thompson for the shot, or Pettersson for the shot or pass? Without adding anything in front of the net or movement, just structurally that umbrella would be really hard to stop.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

I think this roster construction project takes this season and the off-season. Why not begin now? I wonder if Vancouver would think about Power for Pettersson. Because having a Pettersson - Thompson combo as your top two center would be pretty amazing.

Dahlin on the PP with options to go to Thompson for the shot, or Pettersson for the shot or pass? Without adding anything in front of the net or movement, just structurally that umbrella would be really hard to stop.

I would love to make a deal like that but Pettersson's NMC worries me...

I know him and Dahlin are buddies but IDK if thats enough to get him here.



EDIT: just noticed it doesn't go into effect till next season. Let f***ing do it!

 

[Der Jaeger]

I would love to make a deal like that but Pettersson's NMC worries me...

I know him and Dahlin are buddies but IDK if thats enough to get him here.



EDIT: just noticed it doesn't go into effect till next season. Let f***ing do it!

It would create a gap in the D, but I think that can be fixed over time. Having Pettersson and Thompson as your top two centers would be a really big step forward.

 

[michaelsaas]

I'd keep Dahls as he is a great talent and difference maker. I'd keep TNT as when he is on his game that contract is a steal. Everyone else is fair game if there are trades that can improve the team (better defense, less mental softness). Some are low value right now so that might default into keeping them around or not (one problem with the boards is everyone wants to trade players when slumping then when they're good and the value is back up they become untouchable lol).

 

[toddkaz]

I have no problem trading Cozens and his 7 million in the off season if the new GM has a plan to use that cap space to sign a free agent.

Trade Cozens for NHL ready assets and use the cap space to sign free agent. I only make that trade if I have a free agent willing to come here.

Sure its risky but you increase assets and free up cap space to sign the free agent like Rantanen or Ehlers. Yeah, there is also the factor that there is a pretty low chance a free agent like that would come here.

So that leaves the other option of keeping him and hope he gets back to the 30g player.

 

[thewookie1]

I think this roster construction project takes this season and the off-season. Why not begin now? I wonder if Vancouver would think about Power for Pettersson. Because having a Pettersson - Thompson combo as your top two center would be pretty amazing.

Dahlin on the PP with options to go to Thompson for the shot, or Pettersson for the shot or pass? Without adding anything in front of the net or movement, just structurally that umbrella would be really hard to stop.

Well I'd rather not trade Power because our likelihood of it blowing up in our face far outweighs the potential benefit.

Plus Pettersson doesn't fill any particular need persay. He's just another smaller lankier guy that isn't exactly physical in any manner. Plus I have read he treats hockey like a job and not his passion; players in that category tend to be more out for themselves than willing to give up the body to win.

JT Miller is a headcase but one who obsesses over winning; I want to know why the two don't like one another or if that is entirely false.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Peters did break the biggest trade in franchise history so I would like to think they have some connection within the organization but he also throws a lot of shit at the wall.

He broke it because he had Tuch's little brother living in his basement But I hope those guys are on to "something" here at least

 

[ValJamesDuex]

After what he's shown the last few weeks.......Peterka is WAY more moveable for me than Kulich is. Kulich looks like he could be a legit NHL center.

Lindy said this morning on wgr, Kulich moves better in the center of the ice.

 

[KeyserSoze81]

Plus Pettersson doesn't fill any particular need persay. He's just another smaller lankier guy that isn't exactly physical in any manner. Plus I have read he treats hockey like a job and not his passion; players in that category tend to be more out for themselves than willing to give up the body to win.

Counterpoint - Those that treat hockey as a passion burn out really fast in this organization. ROR, Eichel, etc. Maybe we do need someone to punch in, be defensively responsible, and just play their game before punching out. He likely would perform better without the Vancouver media on him all the time (so long as he is willing to get chastised by Paul Hamilton for swearing).

I also think that a two way top 6 center is a core, core need in this organization.