The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

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I famously remembered the hot start , think it was ten wins in a row. Fans on here saying Sabres were not getting the respect that they deserved. I thought that was ridiculous and still do

Same as I think of the reaction to the first two games. Devils are a playoff team. And maybe a cup contender. The losses are bad but maybe not as bad as it feels.

I have to hope that the Sabres learn and grow from this. Let’s see how the first ten go
Why do you judge the Devils a cup contender? They were worse than us last year
 

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It's always going to take months, not weeks, for a team with a new coaching system and nearly 40% of the roster being new faces to come together and show what really are.

Opening in Europe was really unfortunate for a team that is going through as much transition as the Sabres are from last season.

Two games don't worry me, and I cautioned this summer that the start will likely be slow, hopefully they can tread water with good goaltending early in the season for several weeks until they figure out their identity and the chemistry starts to come together.
 

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Trading one of your big names to stir the pot an option here or who would have them ?
Tage lost his whisperer and has been figured out, Cozens charts are shocking, Tuch looks like he has bailed out, Power looks ok but is not making a #1 pick impact.

Ready for the Greenway for a 3rd trade at some point.

7M in cap space but no one wants to come here to use it on

New coach, new system, bottom six changes, looks like the same team from last season.
 
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When all their best players missed most of the season with injuries and they had the worst goaltending in the league (which as you might have noticed is something they addressed in the offseason).
They're going to be better when they add Pesce and Hughes to their d-corps. Their forwards should be in the top 10 statistically, while they probably have the deepest d in the league.
Vegas has them 3rd on the odds list. So it's not exactly like he's out on an island.
Injuries and goaltending plagued their season last year. They have the pieces to be a very good team. Time will tell.
Wait… are you guys telling me that it’s possible for a GM to make the right offseason moves to address team needs and take a team from 81 points to cup contender in a single offseason?!?!

But I’ve been told “draft and develop” is the only and best way to build a team… even though no one has ever built a cup contender, much less cup winner that way.


I probably should have added the :sarcasm: to my original question, but I wanted serious answers.

It's always going to take months, not weeks, for a team with a new coaching system and nearly 40% of the roster being new faces to come together and show what really are.

Opening in Europe was really unfortunate for a team that is going through as much transition as the Sabres are from last season.

Two games don't worry me, and I cautioned this summer that the start will likely be slow, hopefully they can tread water with good goaltending early in the season for several weeks until they figure out their identity and the chemistry starts to come together.
NJ didn’t have any trouble picking up a new coaching system, dealing with lots of new faces or opening in Europe.
 

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Was thinking about this last night - sports is supposed to be an escape for me to enjoy at night.

As someone who loves their job, their fiance and likes going to the gym multiple times a week- the Sabres have become the one thing in my routine I don’t enjoy. Following the team and not saying it’s the posters but the fact we are mostly in the same state of mind during the season is such a f***ing drag. Twitter too.

Think I’m going to take a timeout from the team for awhile and if we are in the hunt come November I’ll swing back. But this team does nothing for me and my life except cause frustration. Years of watching 70+ games, I just don’t think I can do another year like last.

I’ve got plenty of things I could do that would have me feeling more fulfilled to end the day.
 

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Was thinking about this last night - sports is supposed to be an escape for me to enjoy at night.

As someone who loves their job, their fiance and likes going to the gym multiple times a week- the Sabres have become the one thing in my routine I don’t enjoy. Following the team and not saying it’s the posters but the fact we are mostly in the same state of mind during the season is such a f***ing drag. Twitter too.

Think I’m going to take a timeout from the team for awhile and if we are in the hunt come November I’ll swing back. But this team does nothing for me and my life except cause frustration. Years of watching 70+ games, I just don’t think I can do another year like last.

I’ve got plenty of things I could do that would have me feeling more fulfilled to end the day.

See I watch them play because I can make fun of them. It makes it easier to deal with when they suck.
 

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I don’t think anyone would care that they were 0-2 if they didn’t look like the same dog shit team we’ve been watching for years, who can’t complete simple passes, win 50/50 puck battles, or win races to pucks.

They also aren’t good at the details again because they’re lower IQ first rounders who all think they can win by being fancy heroes instead of focusing on the less-fun elements and playing as a team.
 

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I don’t think anyone would care that they were 0-2 if they didn’t look like the same dog shit team we’ve been watching for years, who can’t complete simple passes, win 50/50 puck battles, or win races to pucks.

They also aren’t good at the details again because they’re lower IQ first rounders who all think they can win by being fancy heroes instead of focusing on the less-fun elements and playing as a team.
Is that what you saw in these games?

There was definitely some overhandling, trying to get cute with the passes, etc, but I don't think this group refuses to do the less fun stuff. Some guys are slower and might lose races, some guys are weaker and might lose battles, but I don't think the team has shown that as the identity.

To me they looked disorganized, which hopefully can be coached.
 
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The flip side of the low IQ thing is that we have a bunch of guys that can put the puck in the back of the net. Idk if it was an intentional strategy or happenstance, but the teams seems to have prioritized guys with some scoring touch.

Over the past few seasons tage, tuch, cozens, quinn have had moments that drive people nuts but then pull some goals from thin air. Kulich can be similar, and Skinner was. We didn't get those in the first 2 games, but I imagine they will come. Shooting 4% against one of the Cup favorites for the year, had the expected outcome, and probably isn't a complete reflection on the team's ability
 

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The flip side of the low IQ thing is that we have a bunch of guys that can put the puck in the back of the net. Idk if it was an intentional strategy or happenstance, but the teams seems to have prioritized guys with some scoring touch.

Over the past few seasons tage, tuch, cozens, quinn have had moments that drive people nuts but then pull some goals from thin air. Kulich can be similar, and Skinner was. We didn't get those in the first 2 games, but I imagine they will come. Shooting 4% against one of the Cup favorites for the year, had the expected outcome, and probably isn't a complete reflection on the team's ability
Nice if true!
 

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Thompson and Cozens have looked like garbage. They simply are NOT good enough to be the top-two Cs. One of them could be a #2 at times, but they would be much better off slotted as a #2 and #3. This notion that they each somehow broke out and hit as top-two guys is flat out wrong. They aren't smart or experienced enough, and might never be smart enough. It's just so frustrating that only a handful of posters here saw how dumb it was to rely on them as the guys to run with, without better depth behind (or in front of) them.

This minimalist effort organization had to rely on the talent they hoarded to pan out, and when some of it finally did it was traded away while foolishly believing they were trading from a position of strength. The whole organization is the blind being led by the blind.
 
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Doug Prishpreed

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The flip side of the low IQ thing is that we have a bunch of guys that can put the puck in the back of the net. Idk if it was an intentional strategy or happenstance, but the teams seems to have prioritized guys with some scoring touch.

Over the past few seasons tage, tuch, cozens, quinn have had moments that drive people nuts but then pull some goals from thin air. Kulich can be similar, and Skinner was. We didn't get those in the first 2 games, but I imagine they will come. Shooting 4% against one of the Cup favorites for the year, had the expected outcome, and probably isn't a complete reflection on the team's ability
They’re definitely going to get better - they always do. Just a matter of when.

Is that what you saw in these games?

There was definitely some overhandling, trying to get cute with the passes, etc, but I don't think this group refuses to do the less fun stuff. Some guys are slower and might lose races, some guys are weaker and might lose battles, but I don't think the team has shown that as the identity.

To me they looked disorganized, which hopefully can be coached.
Yeah, I agree that these guys aren’t refusing to do anything, and working very hard to do what Lindy asks. But it just seems like 50/50 battles and puck races have been a problem forever and I’m not sure how coachable that is.
 

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Trading one of your big names to stir the pot an option here or who would have them ?
Tage lost his whisperer and has been figured out, Cozens charts are shocking, Tuch looks like he has bailed out, Power looks ok but is not making a #1 pick impact.

Ready for the Greenway for a 3rd trade at some point.

7M in cap space but no one wants to come here to use it on

New coach, new system, bottom six changes, looks like the same team from last season.

Tuch's issues seem mental. Not ready to give up on him, but I'd sit him for a game and tell him to relax. Cozens should bounce back, and I think he will this season. Tage I'm not sure on. I've been pretty pleased with Power and don't want to move him unless the return is insane. Greenway stays.
 

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