The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[K8fool]

They may or may not be. I'm not saying let's trade everyone, but the problem is that few teams need our futures, other teams also want to win here and now, especially in the east the position of the teams in the table is very tight. If we can find a deal for example for top 4 RD with a package of prospect + Jokiharju + maybe a pick, of course do it.

sure

 

[joshjull]

Respectfully, I think it's a bit naive to think our internal budget had "nothing" to do with passing on Fabbro. The Sabres presently employ players like Jacob Bryson and Dennis Gilbert who could easily be waived to make room for him. Henri Jokiharju is currently in our top 4, and could easily be sat to make room for Fabbro. We had plenty of cap space to add Fabbro. But it would cost more money. I think it's very likely that at least played a role in the decision not to trade a late pick for Fabbro. In fact, it's probably the overriding reason they didn't do it.

It has nothing to do with an “internal budget” because they don’t have one. They didn’t feel he was worth trading for and neither did the rest of the NHL. Thats why he ended up on waivers in the first place.

 

[Fjordy]

They didn’t feel he was worth trading for and neither did the rest of the NHL.

It was a big mistake. Well, a lot of teams don't have a cap for Fabbro or they just don't need a top 4 RD because they're doing well. But other teams screwed up, Waddell did a great job.

 

[Dirty Dog]

IMO, a much more hated location. But I won't get into it over here

You’ll find no support here that buffalo isnt one of the last screwed over franchise by officiating and the league haha

But yeah, skinner has always been great at drawing penalties and pushes it a little bit.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Bored. Trying to figure a way to add Tkachuk and Zegras, and move to balancing the defense, and how to keep things sane for re-signing this off-season. It's drastic but I think it's needed.

Peterka, Kulich, Jokiharju, 2025 1st to Ottawa for Tkachuk. Drastic move. Peterka is good, but you have to give to get. Ottawa reunites the Germans to add scoring. Kulich is the team's best forward prospect, and that's also hard to give up. Tkachuk adds net front scoring, and a warrior type who will battle.

Power and Quinn to Anaheim for Zegras, Dumoulin, Helleson, 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected). Another drastic move. Anaheim gets their #1D, and Quinn. Sabres get their 2C and a second pairing. The 1st is thrown in because unless Anaheim gets good fast, they'll get a top 10 pick in 2027.

Money works (around $2.2M).

Benson - Thompson - Cozens
Tkachuk - Zegras - Tuch
Greenway - McLeod - Zucker
Malenstyn - Krebs - Lafferty
x NAK

Byrum - Dahlin
Dumoulin - Helleson
Samuelsson - Clifton
x Gilbert, Bryson

UPL, Reimer

Flame away!

 

[Chainshot]

Bored. Trying to figure a way to add Tkachuk and Zegras, and move to balancing the defense, and how to keep things sane for re-signing this off-season. It's drastic but I think it's needed.

Peterka, Kulich, Jokiharju, 2025 1st to Ottawa for Tkachuk. Drastic move. Peterka is good, but you have to give to get. Ottawa reunites the Germans to add scoring. Kulich is the team's best forward prospect, and that's also hard to give up. Tkachuk adds net front scoring, and a warrior type who will battle.

Power and Quinn to Anaheim for Zegras, Dumoulin, Helleson, 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected). Another drastic move. Anaheim gets their #1D, and Quinn. Sabres get their 2C and a second pairing. The 1st is thrown in because unless Anaheim gets good fast, they'll get a top 10 pick in 2027.

Money works (around $2.2M).

Benson - Thompson - Cozens
Tkachuk - Zegras - Tuch
Greenway - McLeod - Zucker
Malenstyn - Krebs - Lafferty
x NAK

Byrum - Dahlin
Dumoulin - Helleson
Samuelsson - Clifton
x Gilbert, Bryson

UPL, Reimer

Flame away!

Feels like both of those deals suck on a scale that requires a "^" in the number. And I like Helleson.

 

[thewookie1]

Bored. Trying to figure a way to add Tkachuk and Zegras, and move to balancing the defense, and how to keep things sane for re-signing this off-season. It's drastic but I think it's needed.

Peterka, Kulich, Jokiharju, 2025 1st to Ottawa for Tkachuk. Drastic move. Peterka is good, but you have to give to get. Ottawa reunites the Germans to add scoring. Kulich is the team's best forward prospect, and that's also hard to give up. Tkachuk adds net front scoring, and a warrior type who will battle.

Power and Quinn to Anaheim for Zegras, Dumoulin, Helleson, 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected). Another drastic move. Anaheim gets their #1D, and Quinn. Sabres get their 2C and a second pairing. The 1st is thrown in because unless Anaheim gets good fast, they'll get a top 10 pick in 2027.

Money works (around $2.2M).

Benson - Thompson - Cozens
Tkachuk - Zegras - Tuch
Greenway - McLeod - Zucker
Malenstyn - Krebs - Lafferty
x NAK

Byrum - Dahlin
Dumoulin - Helleson
Samuelsson - Clifton
x Gilbert, Bryson

UPL, Reimer

Flame away!

1st trade is just way to much to give up and has far too much potential to blow up in our faces.

2nd trade is just in general and easy no. I have no interest whatsoever in trading Power

 

[Chainshot]

Can't help the feeling that the roster now is where they were when Regier said there would be pain - the center depth was questionable (Roy coming back off the leg injury from Kulikov riding him into the boards, moving on from Connolly due to the constant injuries, Hodgson's health problems, Ennis not really being a center) and overloaded on defense who didn't ever reach the levels one would hope.

I would like to get out of this timeline now.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Feels like both of those deals suck on a scale that requires a "^" in the number. And I like Helleson.

I don't get the ^ part. I'm dumb..lol

1st trade is just way to much to give up and has far too much potential to blow up in our faces.

2nd trade is just in general and easy no. I have no interest whatsoever in trading Power

I bet Sabres fans will say it's way too much to give up.

I bet Ducks and Sens fans say the same thing.

 

[Sabreality]

There really oughta be an arm-chair GM thread for trades/moves/etc...its become the same stuff in here over and over and over.

We have memories guys, we remember your ideas/takes that've been discussed to death already.

Round and round we go.

 

[Jim Bob]

Bored. Trying to figure a way to add Tkachuk and Zegras, and move to balancing the defense, and how to keep things sane for re-signing this off-season. It's drastic but I think it's needed.

Peterka, Kulich, Jokiharju, 2025 1st to Ottawa for Tkachuk. Drastic move. Peterka is good, but you have to give to get. Ottawa reunites the Germans to add scoring. Kulich is the team's best forward prospect, and that's also hard to give up. Tkachuk adds net front scoring, and a warrior type who will battle.

Power and Quinn to Anaheim for Zegras, Dumoulin, Helleson, 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected). Another drastic move. Anaheim gets their #1D, and Quinn. Sabres get their 2C and a second pairing. The 1st is thrown in because unless Anaheim gets good fast, they'll get a top 10 pick in 2027.

Money works (around $2.2M).

Benson - Thompson - Cozens
Tkachuk - Zegras - Tuch
Greenway - McLeod - Zucker
Malenstyn - Krebs - Lafferty
x NAK

Byrum - Dahlin
Dumoulin - Helleson
Samuelsson - Clifton
x Gilbert, Bryson

UPL, Reimer

Flame away!

Those trades only happen if Staios and Verbeek have incriminating photos of Adams or a member of the Pegula family.

4 solid pieces for Brady is an easy pass for me. That is giving up way too much for a guy that will not make the impact here that you expect.

And I have zero interest in dealing Power. Let alone for a winger like Zegras expecting him to be an improvement at 2C over Cozens.

Plus, taking away both of the wingers that have worked well with Thompson is a choice.

 

[Chainshot]

I don't get the ^ part. I'm dumb..lol

I bet Sabres fans will say it's way too much to give up.

I bet Ducks and Sens fans say the same thing.

"^" indicates the next number would be an exponent, ie. raised to the power of.

 

[Chainshot]

...and...



So some of the injured are up and about but no timelines. I wonder what Lafferty did.

Of course no update on if they've found Power's courage, Cozen's brain or Quinn's heart but reporters are awaiting a word from Oz to see if they get out of their slumps.

 

[Fjordy]

There really oughta be an arm-chair GM thread for trades/moves/etc...its become the same stuff in here over and over and over.

We have memories guys, we remember your ideas/takes that've been discussed to death already.

Round and round we go.

On the contrary, I like it, isn't that what the thread is for? Let people express their creativity, that's the point. I'm ready to discuss it every day and I won't get tired of it.

Bored. Trying to figure a way to add Tkachuk and Zegras, and move to balancing the defense, and how to keep things sane for re-signing this off-season. It's drastic but I think it's needed.

Peterka, Kulich, Jokiharju, 2025 1st to Ottawa for Tkachuk. Drastic move. Peterka is good, but you have to give to get. Ottawa reunites the Germans to add scoring. Kulich is the team's best forward prospect, and that's also hard to give up. Tkachuk adds net front scoring, and a warrior type who will battle.

Power and Quinn to Anaheim for Zegras, Dumoulin, Helleson, 2026 1st round pick (top 10 protected). Another drastic move. Anaheim gets their #1D, and Quinn. Sabres get their 2C and a second pairing. The 1st is thrown in because unless Anaheim gets good fast, they'll get a top 10 pick in 2027.

Money works (around $2.2M).

Benson - Thompson - Cozens
Tkachuk - Zegras - Tuch
Greenway - McLeod - Zucker
Malenstyn - Krebs - Lafferty
x NAK

Byrum - Dahlin
Dumoulin - Helleson
Samuelsson - Clifton
x Gilbert, Bryson

UPL, Reimer

Flame away!

Well I think it's debatable. Do I want Tkachuk or someone like that maybe? You just have to be careful with Tkachuk, does he want to play in Buffalo? We're a lot like Ottawa with all of these issues, but our drought is even longer. Then Brady has his NTС/NMC activated in the summer and if he doesn't like it in Buffalo, he'll say he only wants to play in St. Louis or Florida and that'll hurt us. I know you're obsessed with Tkachuk and there's nothing wrong with that, but we're giving up a very solid package in this trade. I'm also concerned about Tkachuk's mental side, there are issues there as well.

Zegras? Yes please, but I'm not sure why we'd want to extend this trade and trade Power in this deal. I don't know much about Helleson and what his value is? I'd just try to get Zegras at a reasonable price without adding Power and extending this trade.

 

[Der Jaeger]

"^" indicates the next number would be an exponent, ie. raised to the power of.

Gotcha. Thanks

 

[GrierIsGod123]

On the contrary, I like it, isn't that what the thread is for? Let people express their creativity, that's the point. I'm ready to discuss it every day and I won't get tired of it.

Well I think it's debatable. Do I want Tkachuk or someone like that maybe? You just have to be careful with Tkachuk, does he want to play in Buffalo? We're a lot like Ottawa with all of these issues, but our drought is even longer. Then Brady has his NTС/NMC activated in the summer and if he doesn't like it in Buffalo, he'll say he only wants to play in St. Louis or Florida and that'll hurt us. I know you're obsessed with Tkachuk and there's nothing wrong with that, but we're giving up a very solid package in this trade. I'm also concerned about Tkachuk's mental side, there are issues there as well.

Zegras? Yes please, but I'm not sure why we'd want to extend this trade and trade Power in this deal. I don't know much about Helleson and what his value is? I'd just try to get Zegras at a reasonable price without adding Power and extending this trade.

There's no way in hell you give up Power in a trade for Zegras. If you trade Power, you better damn well come out of it with a 1C.

 

[Fjordy]

There's no way in hell you give up Power in a trade for Zegras. If you trade Power, you better damn well come out of it with a 1C.

I don't think it's specifically for Zegras, it's more Helleson, but I don't really like this deal. I'd just try to get Zegras without trading Power.

 

[Chainshot]

If they are backing one of the Big Three defensemen up to the Ducks, the ask has to be McTavish.

 

[Fjordy]

If they are backing one of the Big Three defensemen up to the Ducks, the ask has to be McTavish.

He seems to have struggled this season and I've already seen some Ducks fans willing to trade him in some deals. But if we trade one of Big Three defensemen, it probably has to be a big deal where we also get our top 4 D return. I don't want to make our defense any worse.

 

[Chainshot]

He seems to have struggled this season and I've already seen some Ducks fans willing to trade him in some deals. But if we trade one of Big Three defensemen, it probably has to be a big deal where we also get our top 4 D return. I don't want to make our defense any worse.

I don't see a defense-for-defense deal as workable but that may just be me.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't see a defense-for-defense deal as workable but that may just be me.

No, not defense for defense, just a bigger deal where there are defensemen and forwards on both sides. What's the point of trading our defenseman and not adding anything in return? Are we going to play with Jokiharju and Bryson in the top 4? No thanks.

 

[Chainshot]

No, not defense for defense, just a bigger deal where there are defensemen and forwards on both sides. What's the point of trading our defenseman and not adding anything in return? Are we going to play with Jokiharju and Bryson in the top 4? No thanks.

No, but I don't think solving the issue necessarily means just one deal (or even two).

 

[Fjordy]

No, but I don't think solving the issue necessarily means just one deal (or even two).

Given how often and what kind of trades Adams makes, I think we'll have to wait a few more years for the top 4 D, and for now we'll ride with Joki and Bryson in the top 4.

In fact, I'm not even sure if Ducks LD is needed, they have Mintyukov, Zellweger and someone else. And Verbeek seems to be obsessed with physical guys.

 

[toddkaz]

Ruff just can't get enough of Joker and Bryson. They are no Lydman and Tillander?

 

[zenthusiast]

I want to believe a shakeup is coming but I just don’t see it absent some other team willingly taking an obvious L on value. Adams has testified that he’s played hardball on value before (rightly or wrongly) and I think he’s got Regier’s brand of conservatism to him. Without obvious stakes like loss of job, etc, why would the leopard change his spots?