Prospect Info: The 2024 - 2025 Prospect Thread: Part 2: WE ARE SO F***ING BACK

[Lindgren]

Okay that's fair I guess but trading for a legit top 6 center prospect is extremely difficult.

I don't know the league nearly well enough to make trade proposals, but, keeping on a very general level, it seems to me that it's also difficult to trade for legit top four D prospects. So perhaps there's a trade to be made there—that's all I was thinking.

 

[credulous]

there's just not that many prospects that safely project to be top 6 centers. the few that do are either already in the nhl (celebrini, bedard, smith, carlsson, fantilli, cooley) and will cost a mint to acquire or are basically untouchable (dvorsky, catton, ritchie, lindstrom). you can maybe pry loose a guy like danielson or kasper from detroit or beaudoin from utah or maybe danny nelson from the islanders but those guys are not safe bets to be top 6 guys and might be years away in the case of someone like beaudoin

if vancouver are serious about acquiring a top 6 center who is young the most attainable on the market might be shane wright. seattle have beniers and chandler signed long term and have to make room somehow for catton and possible miettinen and molgaard in their top 6. i dunno what the kraken would want in return though. starts with the first and probably includes either elias nils pettersson or sawyer mynio or maybe lekkerimaki (although seattle is stacked with wing prospects so maybe not)

 

[Lindgren]

there's just not that many prospects that safely project to be top 6 centers. the few that do are either already in the nhl (celebrini, bedard, smith, carlsson, fantilli, cooley) and will cost a mint to acquire or are basically untouchable (dvorsky, catton, ritchie, lindstrom). you can maybe pry loose a guy like danielson or kasper from detroit or beaudoin from utah or maybe danny nelson from the islanders but those guys are not safe bets to be top 6 guys and might be years away in the case of someone like beaudoin

KK and Mynio are also not safe bets to be top four D. I'm not advocating a trade for a "safe bet."

I'm advocating for like-for-like, with a shift of position. Say, a centre drafted the same year as KK was, also a late round pick, who's performing better than expected. Just to shift the balance in the prospect pool. Not very exciting, but I'm not claiming that it is.

 

[VanJack]

Mynio was a third-round pick; and Kudryavtsev a 7th rounder. Given how far, and how fast they've come by their 20th birthday, I think the Canucks would be well-served giving them a couple of years in the AHL to see what potential they might realize.

As for now, the best you could hope for in a trade is that they'd be a 'throw-in' to acquire some sort of rental.

It's hard to uncover decent d-men in the draft. If they to have a couple of strong years in the AHL, at the very least their trade value would be considerably enhanced.

 

[VancouverJagger]

Okay that's fair I guess but trading for a legit top 6 center prospect is extremely difficult.

I would gladly do Lekk and a first and probably be willing to add Mynio and even hoglander if necessary to get a top 6 and even then it's gonna have to be the right situation.............a player that a team has soured on a bit..........ie Pierre-Luc Dubois

 

[Knight53]

From the 2022 draft:

(2)Simon Nemec - 32 GP 5G 17A 22P
(6)David Jiricek - 21GP 2G 4A 6P
(7)Kevin Korchinski - 36 GP 2G 17A 19P
(208)Kirill Kudryatsev - 38 GP 3G 18A 21p

Todd Harvey has been going crazy at the draft when it comes to dmen.

In the system:

Tom Willander
Elias Pettersson
Sawyer Mynio
Kirill Kudryatsev

Probably had a say in getting Victor Mancini as well.

Traded:

Hunter Bru
Jackson Dorrington

 

[VanJack]

I would gladly do Lekk and a first and probably be willing to add Mynio and even hoglander if necessary to get a top 6 and even then it's gonna have to be the right situation.............a player that a team has soured on a bit..........ie Pierre-Luc Dubois

I'd rather just wait for the off-season and open the vault for Rantanen or Marner. Would cost you nothing but greenbacks, with no assets moving at all.

 

[wetcoast]

I would gladly do Lekk and a first and probably be willing to add Mynio and even hoglander if necessary to get a top 6 and even then it's gonna have to be the right situation.............a player that a team has soured on a bit..........ie Pierre-Luc Dubois

First of all a center like that has to become available and while Lekk is a top prospect Hoglander and Mynio bring the quantity over quality question into play unless teams are really sold on untapped potential which they probably aren't.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

From the 2022 draft:

(2)Simon Nemec - 32 GP 5G 17A 22P
(6)David Jiricek - 21GP 2G 4A 6P
(7)Kevin Korchinski - 36 GP 2G 17A 19P
(208)Kirill Kudryatsev - 38 GP 3G 18A 21p

Todd Harvey has been going crazy at the draft when it comes to dmen.

In the system:

Tom Willander
Elias Pettersson
Sawyer Mynio
Kirill Kudryatsev

Probably had a say in getting Victor Mancini as well.

Traded:

Hunter Bru
Jackson Dorrington

When you lay the stats out like that it's f'in crazy lol.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I'd rather just wait for the off-season and open the vault for Rantanen or Marner. Would cost you nothing but greenbacks, with no assets moving at all.

Yuck Marner… but yeah.

 

[AHLdepth]

From the 2022 draft:

(2)Simon Nemec - 32 GP 5G 17A 22P
(6)David Jiricek - 21GP 2G 4A 6P
(7)Kevin Korchinski - 36 GP 2G 17A 19P
(208)Kirill Kudryatsev - 38 GP 3G 18A 21p

Todd Harvey has been going crazy at the draft when it comes to dmen.

In the system:

Tom Willander
Elias Pettersson
Sawyer Mynio
Kirill Kudryatsev

Probably had a say in getting Victor Mancini as well.

Traded:

Hunter Bru
Jackson Dorrington

I believe Kudryatsev was named the most underrated OHL player a few years ago, and could of swore I saw an article where a coach at the time was quoted as wondering how in the hell teams missed on him so badly as he was convinced he was going pretty high

 

[VanJack]

I believe Kudryatsev was named the most underrated OHL player a few years ago, and could of swore I saw an article where a coach at the time was quoted as wondering how in the hell teams missed on him so badly as he was convinced he was going pretty high

I suppose there's a chance that Kudryavtsev and Mynio stall out as prospects after a couple of years in Abbotsford.

But there's also a chance that as basically 20-year olds, their upward trajectory as pro hockey players is just getting started. After all, neither of these guys was even a second round pick.

The only knock on them might be their 'size'. But I really hope they get a couple of years in the Canucks AHL development system, to see where they end up.

 

[F A N]

there's just not that many prospects that safely project to be top 6 centers. the few that do are either already in the nhl (celebrini, bedard, smith, carlsson, fantilli, cooley) and will cost a mint to acquire or are basically untouchable (dvorsky, catton, ritchie, lindstrom). you can maybe pry loose a guy like danielson or kasper from detroit or beaudoin from utah or maybe danny nelson from the islanders but those guys are not safe bets to be top 6 guys and might be years away in the case of someone like beaudoin

if vancouver are serious about acquiring a top 6 center who is young the most attainable on the market might be shane wright. seattle have beniers and chandler signed long term and have to make room somehow for catton and possible miettinen and molgaard in their top 6. i dunno what the kraken would want in return though. starts with the first and probably includes either elias nils pettersson or sawyer mynio or maybe lekkerimaki (although seattle is stacked with wing prospects so maybe not)

Well the only prospects that "safely" project to be top 6 Cs are essentially going to be top 10-15 picks. Hard to acquire them if you don't draft them.

Kind of amazing that we haven't drafted a whole lot of centres. Aside from Klimovich (who I think was listed as a centre), we haven't drafted one in the first three rounds since Madden. We did target Cs in some 1st round of drafts of course. I believe we had Danielsson and Dvorsky ahead of Willander at the time. But with Petey, Miller, and Horvat in the lineup at one time, who knew we would be in need of a top 6 C so quickly?

 

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