Prospect Info: The 2023 NHL Entry Draft Thread

[ps241]

McKenzie has an updated list with a top-12 and 5 "honourable mentions":

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Dvorsky
7. Leonard
8. Benson
9. Perreault
10. Reinbacher
11. Barlow
12. Wood

HM:
Yager
Moore
Danielson
Sandin-Pellikka
Honzek

Given how draft boards tend to vary, it seems likely that a few from this group would likely be available at the Jets' pick at #19. I would guess that the more likely "fallers" (to #19) from this group would be:

Perreault
Yager
Danielson
Honzek
Sandin-Pellika
Wood
Barlow


Thoughts?

I think out of your possible fallers I would probably choose Yager. People I chatted with that watched him this year say good things.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Tbh I think Connor was injured towards the back half. Just a hunch.

The Winnipeg Jets, where you're either playing well or you're playing injured! The title of our 30 For 30 documentary should be "Playing Injured In Winnipeg" lol

 

[DRW204]

Happy Bedard Day!

Places i would love see him: DET
Place i would not hate to see him: WSH, CBJ, STL
Hate to see him: MTL, CHI, ANH, ARI, VAN
Mid: SJS, PHI

 

[Whileee]

Florida is one won away from moving the Jets up to pick #18.

That would also mean that the Habs' second 1st-round pick would lose a lot of value, dropping to #29 (or lower). That might change trade options for PLD, this off-season. I suppose the Habs could bundle the #29 and #37 picks in a Dubois trade. That wouldn't be as exciting for Jets fans, but the overall pick value would be a bit higher than the #18 by itself.

So, if available, would you prefer the Jets to have pick #18 or picks #29 and #37 as part of a Dubois trade?

 

[surixon]

Florida is one won away from moving the Jets up to pick #18.

That would also mean that the Habs' second 1st-round pick would lose a lot of value, dropping to #29 (or lower). That might change trade options for PLD, this off-season. I suppose the Habs could bundle the #29 and #37 picks in a Dubois trade. That wouldn't be as exciting for Jets fans, but the overall pick value would be a bit higher than the #18 by itself.

So, if available, would you prefer the Jets to have pick #18 or picks #29 and #37 as part of a Dubois trade?

If that comes to pass I'd want Montreals 2024 first round pick instead.

If ours goes to 18 it really won't change who we get vs. at 19. I think we are still looking at one of the two way C's or one of the top 2 RD.

 

[Huffer]

Florida is one won away from moving the Jets up to pick #18.

That would also mean that the Habs' second 1st-round pick would lose a lot of value, dropping to #29 (or lower). That might change trade options for PLD, this off-season. I suppose the Habs could bundle the #29 and #37 picks in a Dubois trade. That wouldn't be as exciting for Jets fans, but the overall pick value would be a bit higher than the #18 by itself.

So, if available, would you prefer the Jets to have pick #18 or picks #29 and #37 as part of a Dubois trade?

If we knew 100% that PLD to the Habs would be the best offer and that pick would be a main part it might be better to have both 17 and 19.

But even if the Habs will be the most interested, if the pick moves from 18 to 29, that can be offset in any number of ways by adding a better prospect than we might have got if the pick was 18, switching the pick to 2024, etc.

 

[DRW204]

If we knew 100% that PLD to the Habs would be the best offer and that pick would be a main part it might be better to have both 17 and 19.

But even if the Habs will be the most interested, if the pick moves from 18 to 29, that can be offset in any number of ways by adding a better prospect than we might have got if the pick was 18, switching the pick to 2024, etc.

i don't think they'll be offering their '24 1st. that team still is still going to be bottom-10 imo. if it's 29th vs 17th, what's the difference in prospect you're expecting?

similar off-season deals for pending RFAs

FIala for 19th overall + Faber.
Reinhart for 1st+Levi (1st ended up 28th)

 

[Atoyot]

I stumbled upon the following video on my YT feed. This kid just got USHL player of the year and will be eligible in 2024. Probably a player people know already about but what I actually want to point to

THE GUY IS CALLED MACKLIN CELEBRINI

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WE NEED HIM!

Imagine our new generation on the ice in 2026/2027

Cole Perfetti, Rutger McGroarty, Chaz Lucius, Macklin Celebrini, Domenic DiVincentiis

This would be the most epic NHL roster name wise in the history of the NHL





*edit

Shoot we also need Frantelli. What are the odds of him falling down to our pick?

Going to have to tank if we want Celebrini, he's likely to go top 3.

 

[Huffer]

i don't think they'll be offering their '24 1st. that team still is still going to be bottom-10 imo. if it's 29th vs 19th, what's the difference in prospect you're expecting?

similar off-season deals for pending RFAs

FIala for 19th overall + Faber.
Reinhart for 1st+Levi (1st ended up 28th)

They could do a protected 2024 1st as I agree they wouldn't want to trade it unprotected.

Hard to say the difference in prospect because we don't know how each team values them. I'm just saying that if it's 19 + X, or 29 + Y, that Y could be a better prospect that wouldn't have been offered with 19. Or maybe you get 2 prospects with 29 instead of 1.

 

[Thechozen1]

So who wins the draft lottery. After many assumptions I pick Flyers. zona picks 2

My prediction is

1st SHARKS
2nd BLUE JACKETS

 

[drumzan]

Florida is one won away from moving the Jets up to pick #18.

That would also mean that the Habs' second 1st-round pick would lose a lot of value, dropping to #29 (or lower). That might change trade options for PLD, this off-season. I suppose the Habs could bundle the #29 and #37 picks in a Dubois trade. That wouldn't be as exciting for Jets fans, but the overall pick value would be a bit higher than the #18 by itself.

So, if available, would you prefer the Jets to have pick #18 or picks #29 and #37 as part of a Dubois trade?

I mentioned this exact scenario in another post. Definitely 29 and 37 because the Jets need more picks and don’t have a 2nd rounder in next two drafts.

 

[cbcwpg]

I ran the lottery sim 10 times just now, and in only 1 time did the picks actually stay in the pre-lottery order, So 9 out of 10 times someone was moving up and kicking the Ducks out of the #1 spot. I actually had Vancouver winning on one sim. We will see where Bettman wants the balls to fall...

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Going to bet the farm the Yotes win the lotto tonight

 

[Whileee]

I mentioned this exact scenario in another post. Definitely 29 and 37 because the Jets need more picks and don’t have a 2nd rounder in next two drafts.

Sorry, I missed that post. I think we agree on this.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think Scheifele has wanted out of Winnipeg for a long while now and Chevy has done nothing with his requests and he has his nose out of joint which carries a lot of influence with other players that aren’t happy with their situation. I think once Scheifele gets moved we will likely see a couple career years out of him and he will play in a way that that fan base will be very happy with what they will consider a steal from Winnipeg.

Do you have anything to base this on?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

McKenzie has an updated list with a top-12 and 5 "honourable mentions":

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Dvorsky
7. Leonard
8. Benson
9. Perreault
10. Reinbacher
11. Barlow
12. Wood

HM:
Yager
Moore
Danielson
Sandin-Pellikka
Honzek

Given how draft boards tend to vary, it seems likely that a few from this group would likely be available at the Jets' pick at #19. I would guess that the more likely "fallers" (to #19) from this group would be:

Perreault
Yager
Danielson
Honzek
Sandin-Pellika
Wood
Barlow


Thoughts?

McKenzie is usually pretty close to what actually happens. I wouldn't count on very many fallers. But we only need 1.

 

[belzebob1]

i do not know if this has been posted already, but this is what i would do at the draft.

they have had time to talk with dubois.

if he has not signed an extension, then i would put him up for the highest bidder at the draft

much better than letting him pull a "trouba", and tying the teams hands in a trade or walking as a ufa

 

[raideralex99]

This is what I would do in the draft ... draft big strong tough Canadians over and over and over.
Anyone who is watching the playoffs know this.

 

[Peter Tagli Eddie]

This is what I would do in the draft ... draft big strong tough Canadians over and over and over.
Anyone who is watching the playoffs know this.

Sure worked for Minnesota.

 

[Thechozen1]

If we knew 100% that PLD to the Habs would be the best offer and that pick would be a main part it might be better to have both 17 and 19.

But even if the Habs will be the most interested, if the pick moves from 18 to 29, that can be offset in any number of ways by adding a better prospect than we might have got if the pick was 18, switching the pick to 2024, etc.

I wonder if you can get the 1st and your choice of two of Beck, Roy, Kidney.

Getting the extra prospect who is closer to ready would help speed up the rebuild/retool.

 

[raideralex99]

Sure worked for Minnesota.

That's because Dallas has a bigger and strongest defence and they also have bigger forwards too which proves my point.

 

[Gil Fisher]

This is what I would do in the draft ... draft big strong tough Canadians over and over and over.
Anyone who is watching the playoffs know this.

only if they're also fast and skilled. big, fast, skilled, intense, intelligent canadians. easy.

 

[hockeyarena]

This is what I would do in the draft ... draft big strong tough Canadians over and over and over.
Anyone who is watching the playoffs know this.

i'd add western in front of canadians as well. i'd also be curious if players from rich families are less likely to stay in winnipeg than players from the middle class, not that they'd ever publish that data.

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does it drive anyone else nuts when the media publishes articles like "Draft Lottery Live Tonight on TSN" and then neglects to post what time the program is occurring? Like when should I tune into your network? I'm seeing this more and more where I have to go on a quest separate from the article to find very basic info.

 

[RabidOne]

Going to bet the farm the Yotes win the lotto tonight

And Matthews joins him when his contract is up?

 

[Thechozen1]

If you can only hope against 1 team in the lottery who is it?

PLEASE NOT MONTREAL
PLEASE NOT MONTREAL
PLEASE NOT MONTREAL